If you don't agree Jay-Z is the best rapper of all-time..........

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Master P is the most successful rapper. The things Jay Z is doing now Master P did in 1997-1998. He worth 600 million. He turned rap money into legitimate business ventures like real estate, sports managment, energy, telecommunications. He had the best record deal in MUSIC history. not just hip hop. His independent films inspired the WSHH, Youtube DIY projects. He played in the NBA. He wrestled. Despite his gangster rap image he managed to get his kids to star in his own produced nickelodeon show on primetime tv. He is an active face in the community. Him and Juvenile were on emergency radio in louisiana during katrina as it happened. He rallied with Nagin and spoke up against Harry Lee fat ass and that other racist deputy who was shooting niggas trying to flee to safety. You name it P done it. The only other names need to be mentioned with Master P is Latifah, Cube and Will Smith.
 
Sion.;4803062 said:
usmarin3;4802962 said:
usmarin3;4802962 said:
Someone will come in here and say Eminem, but we all know that clown never had to put in half the work Jay, Nas,etc had to put in once he got sign and neither of them had the cosign of Dr. Dre.

hhhmmmmmmmmm.....

Ok but Eminem is lyrically a better MC than Jay-Z tho....

Based on what, he hasn't produced anything that's tangible or on the level of Reasonable Doubt, Black Album, and Blueprint, for such a better mc lyrically.

Eminem is overrated as hell as a lyricist imo, all he does is uses a lot of multis and speeds up his flow so it sounds impressive. Break down jay-z bars and all his dual meanings/wit/wordplay and it's easily better than Ems.
 
its either Em or Jay

would say cube but i dont know how dude was selling then

but Cubes movies my make him one of the most successful
 
For arguments sake Hov is the most successful MC of all time. When we put in guys like Master P & Diddy they weren't great artists, they made the bulk of their money through other people and other business ventures. Will Smith, Ice Cube/T and LL made a lot of money outside rap true indeed, but few made as much money as an MC than Jay-Z. Eminem would probably be a closer rival in that category than anyone else mentioned.

 
Hows master p aint a good artist when...he's the gold on your teeth the Nike's on your feet the last mother fucker u wana meet on the street the one who moan when he rap..the last Don
 
jono;4803772 said:
For arguments sake Hov is the most successful MC of all time. When we put in guys like Master P & Diddy they weren't great artists, they made the bulk of their money through other people and other business ventures. Will Smith, Ice Cube/T and LL made a lot of money outside rap true indeed, but few made as much money as an MC than Jay-Z. Eminem would probably be a closer rival in that category than anyone else mentioned.

Look, just because you see his name on every Hip Hop website everyday talking about the next thing he apart of, doesn't mean much when you have a dozen emcees who keeps their flow and ventures to themselves. This is the money generation, so whenever a so&so is printed for doing something, its nothing but another notch on their belt. As you said, Will Smith, ICE CUBE, LL, ICE T, LATIFAH including Eminem, don't have to rap anymore !! They are straight. Alot of their ventures are behind the scenes, keeping their shit on the low. You won't see them in forbes because they have no reason to put it out there for the world to know.
 
_Menace_;4803578 said:
BIG is dope but how is he the "GOAT" with only 2 albums?

He's the GOAT because you have never heard him spit a wack verse and had 2 classics back to back in a row, and he was the KING of NY ever since his first album dropped.

The man had a whole coast on his back.

 
tompetrez3;4803624 said:
oh yeah. cant forget Ice T.

mount rushmore of black success in hip hop

Master P

Will Smith

Ice Cube

Queen Latifah

Ice T

Dude I can't even argue with this right here. Jay is hella successful but NOWHERE the magnitude of these guys.

 
tompetrez3;4803614 said:
Master P is the most successful rapper. The things Jay Z is doing now Master P did in 1997-1998. He worth 600 million. He turned rap money into legitimate business ventures like real estate, sports managment, energy, telecommunications. He had the best record deal in MUSIC history. not just hip hop. His independent films inspired the WSHH, Youtube DIY projects. He played in the NBA. He wrestled. Despite his gangster rap image he managed to get his kids to star in his own produced nickelodeon show on primetime tv. He is an active face in the community. Him and Juvenile were on emergency radio in louisiana during katrina as it happened. He rallied with Nagin and spoke up against Harry Lee fat ass and that other racist deputy who was shooting niggas trying to flee to safety. You name it P done it. The only other names need to be mentioned with Master P is Latifah, Cube and Will Smith.

I keep forgetting about that Nickelodeon money he sitting on also.
 
andre_1024;4803324 said:
andre_1024;4803324 said:
usmarin3;4802962 said:
Someone will come in here and say Eminem, but we all know that clown never had to put in half the work Jay, Nas,etc had to put in once he got sign and neither of them had the cosign of Dr. Dre.

Lol the question wasn't "what rapper put in the most work?" tho, it was who's been the most successful..and that would be Eminem..

Jay money way longer than slim shady...
 
lol...these dudes said Ice-T & Queen Latifah are more successful than Hov...successful, no doubt...more successful than Hov, stop playing...hell, Will Smith & those other dudes aren't as successful as Hov...especially with the rap shit & then you combine what his wife has which is also considered his...you dudes do know what a marriage is right?...niggas hate for no reason
 
Are we talking about most successful period or most successful in music..if it's overall than Will easily is more successful than Jay..the man is an entertainment icon..
 

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