If you don't agree Jay-Z is the best rapper of all-time..........

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Crooklyn09;477068 said:
would you agree that he is the most successful rapper of all time?
if you define success by jackin' DAS EFX's style until becoming aware of The Notorious B.I.G.'s existence.. then shamelessly stealing his entire structuring style & persona before dudes body even got cold...

then... yeah?

 
I can agree. Even tho people have mentioned master P, Ice Cube, LL, and etc. the bottom line is Jays power moves are on some next level shit right now AND he's still making dope music.
 
Its really how you define the level of success and if you're willing to give props to others that done it before Jay-Z. Case in point: Commericals - Plenty Emcees has been doing that before it was popular. When it was looked at as selling out for going there. Same with TV & Movies - Before it was popular. Books, shit LL was the first to drop an Autobiography, as well as kids books & Workout training books - all best sellers. Of the elder emcees, LL and ICE Cube are getting paid constantly for their heavy rotated commercials respectively. Latifah, Will, Ice-T are rocking $$$ off syndication, while L is on CBS. Uncle L owns his catalog so whenever someone uses a piece of it, he's getting $$$. Will Smith, Latifah & Cube all have production companies for movies & TV, While LL linked a deal with SONY for the virtual studio. I do give Jay props for having everything he's done out there for the world to see.
 
[Trillmatic];4807763 said:
I can agree. Even tho people have mentioned master P, Ice Cube, LL, and etc. the bottom line is Jays power moves are on some next level shit right now AND he's still making dope music.

Being a snake is not to be celebrated and his music has fallen way off

 
Jay Z is so one dimensional. Cube, LL, Latifah, Smith, Miller and Ice T all acted, directed, produced, owned and had or have distribution deals with hollywood studios and all of them made the transition from "black" movies to high box office blockbusters. All of them except for master P been acting for over 20 years. LL been acting for almost 30 years damn thats some range. Jay Z aint no fucking GOAT. i dont care about his money. when he die what great works of art would he leave behind besides that weak ass discography? The Friday franchise>any thing Jay Z has ever done in his life. Name one nigga that DONT got a copy of Friday VHS/DVD laying around? Name one nigga who aint seen Boyz N The Hood? Will Smith doing at least $250 million DOMESTIC every film just by attaching his name to a picture. Jay Z bragged about taking 275 million for his next deal but Will Smith been cashing them kind of checks since the 90s. FOH Shonn. Co sign with curtisblack about Ice T eating off them residuals. Ice T still spending Law and Order money from the 90s. Long as TNT, USA, NBC show episodes Ice T will eat and his legacy will stay. Flavor Unit Productions been made over a billion since 1989. Queen Latifah was smart from the jump by attaching her Production company to early filmworks. She still spending House Party 2 and Juice money. Latifah name is on more shit than Jay Z. Jay Z aint no business man. He is just a dumb investor who spends his money on whatever his newly introduced white best friends tell him. What has Jay Z done besides call you jigga warriors dumb and sell yall some clothes?
 
MC The Rapper;4808296 said:
[Trillmatic];4807763 said:
I can agree. Even tho people have mentioned master P, Ice Cube, LL, and etc. the bottom line is Jays power moves are on some next level shit right now AND he's still making dope music.

Being a snake is not to be celebrated and his music has fallen way off

please elaborate on both points please.
 
uolag;4808540 said:
tompetrez3;4808495 said:
Jay Z is so one dimensional. Cube, LL, Latifah, Smith, Miller and Ice T all acted, directed, produced, owned and had or have distribution deals with hollywood studios and all of them made the transition from "black" movies to high box office blockbusters. All of them except for master P been acting for over 20 years. LL been acting for almost 30 years damn thats some range. Jay Z aint no fucking GOAT. i dont care about his money. when he die what great works of art would he leave behind besides that weak ass discography? The Friday franchise>any thing Jay Z has ever done in his life. Name one nigga that DONT got a copy of Friday VHS/DVD laying around? Name one nigga who aint seen Boyz N The Hood? Will Smith doing at least $250 million DOMESTIC every film just by attaching his name to a picture. Jay Z bragged about taking 275 million for his next deal but Will Smith been cashing them kind of checks since the 90s. FOH Shonn. Co sign with curtisblack about Ice T eating off them residuals. Ice T still spending Law and Order money from the 90s. Long as TNT, USA, NBC show episodes Ice T will eat and his legacy will stay. Flavor Unit Productions been made over a billion since 1989. Queen Latifah was smart from the jump by attaching her Production company to early filmworks. She still spending House Party 2 and Juice money. Latifah name is on more shit than Jay Z. Jay Z aint no business man. He is just a dumb investor who spends his money on whatever his newly introduced white best friends tell him. What has Jay Z done besides call you jigga warriors dumb and sell yall some clothes?

^^^ lmao

I like when @tompetrez3 post. One of the most entertaining posters on the "Reason".

tomp rants>>>Bilfiger Pac hate posts?
 
eminem is the most successful rapper

regardless of how much work he put in or what cosigns he got

#s don't lie

fuck a cosign

plenty folks have failed with them....memphis bleek
 
I don't support rappers that are gay, fake, liars or cry for getting dissed. Can't respect Jay, how can a grow man cry cuz another rapper really touch his soul?? Nah I can't respect him or put him in my GOAT rapper list.
 
deathrowzorrow;4808745 said:
I don't support rappers that are gay....
the first female solo rapper to go plat is a lesbian. so in retrospect, it's a bit amusing how your support, or lack thereof, is light years less than irrelevant..

*points & laughs

 
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rusty shackleford;4815850 said:
deathrowzorrow;4808745 said:
I don't support rappers that are gay....
the first female solo rapper to go plat is a lesbian. so in retrospect, it's a bit amusing how your support, or lack thereof, is light years less than irrelevant..

*points & laughs

i can respect lesbian girls the only reason a girl is lesbian is because her first man cheated on her at end of the day all girls like dicks
 
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Always wondered y Jay haters can make threads criticizing his every move but a Jay fan can't say he's the most successful without being a "dickrider".. but let's make a thread about ice cube being the most successful and see if the same posters are as critical of his fans..

Anyways, the answer is yes.. funny how I've seen the same posters say Jay is the most successful but did it to "selling his soul" in other thread when it suits their point
 

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