If you are Nigger/Black/AfroAmerican/AfricanAmerican/Colored/Negro then you are not a citizen

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So we're just suppose to ignore the 14th amendment later over ruling the 13th used in the Dredd Scott case?

Sounds like something a white man would do.

The same thing that makes anybody else a citizen, makes us a citizen. As americans by birth right like the rest, we legally have access to the same rights that any other american has. Granted there are those that wish to deny us such things, legally they're not suppose too.

I'm not saying it didn't exist, MS didn't even ratify the amendment till this year, but it's an out dated example to our current legal status in this country. Things would be a lot worst if they were legally able to act as if the original 13th amendment was up holded by law.

 
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kzzl;6119410 said:
So we're just suppose to ignore the 14th amendment later over ruling the 13th used in the Dredd Scott case?

Sounds like something a white man would do.

Lol. the European (stop saying white, those devils are NOT pure/innocent) used the 14th amendment to incorporated you because a slave is property. That is the only way property could be given rights without just telling them who they are (nationality). When something is incorporated, you are grant it privileges that are similar to the rights of an equal citizen. And then someone has to represent it on it's behalf.

This is why they call you a fool if go to their 'courts' and try to represent yourself. They know you are incompetent. They know you are property. They know you come in fighting a traffic ticket not knowing that it is a criminal lawsuit where the State (an artificial entity/property as well, not a natural person) is suing you for breach of contract, yet they totally DENY you due process. Because they know property cannot indict anything...! Property has no rights!

But they know the masses are puppets! Everyone goes with what "they think they believe is right" or "how they feel" or "what everyone else is doing", when government is run on LAW and FACTS. FACTS. Ask Trayvon Martin and the family. FACTS.

The same thing that makes anybody else a citizen, makes us a citizen.

Stop.

What doesn't fit here?

Chinese man

Irish man

Saudi Arabian man

German man

Black man

Black does not fit. Why does Black not fit? Because Black is an adjective. Any one of those other mean could be Black. But they are not listed as Black in law. Why? Because they know that's fiction and artificial. They know who they are. No logical Nigerian, Norwegian, Brazilian, etc. will call themselves Black. That will place them immediately in a losing situation. That also separates them from their identity and culture.

As americans by birth right like the rest-

Stop, stop, stop, you are ahead of yourself. You are not an American (US citizen, you mean) by birthright. They stole your birthright by severing your ties with your nation and classifying you as Negro/Black/Colored. Because Negro/Black/Colored means property. So when you were "born", you're still not a citizen because you were birthed from property (mother and father claimed Black), so you're still property. And when you grow up, you continue to claim that you are property.

Only men are equal.

Men could/can not be slaves. Your slave ancestors were property called Negros/Blacks. You claim to be a descendant of Negros/Blacks/Africans, therefore you are property as well. Because a living human bring be produced by property. I've never seen it, you've never seen it. It's a technicality but it is real.

"Blacks" were property. The "abolishment of slavery" (though it clearly still exists), did not say that Blacks are not property anymore. You cannot turn property into a human being. Until they recognize a nation called "Black" or the "Black Nation", Blacks will always be property because all men on this Earth are of a nation
 
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It may sound like I am pushing cracker agenda but the cracker does not want you to know this because if you did you would stop playing their games.

Why are you holding on to "Black" so much?

Do you think your race was created in 1492?

Or do you think you existed before then?

Let their term that they created out of thin air go. Be yourself. Use the legitimate term, Moor, that has real history dating back to the Greeks Maurus (thats as far as the etymology in the dictionary says).
 
Lamilton3000;6119224 said:
no I can read I just didn't want to read subject matter like this for the 15,000th time.

Though you would rather argue racism, feelings, and all types of other things that the law cannot and will not acknowledge. Or talk about love n hip hop or national basketball color games while they are standing on your shoulders at this very moment

Though when a person walks up to your car, hands you a ticket saying they are filing a criminal suit against you, you go to court pleading your case not realizing you havent been presented a jury, indictment papers for the crime, or even an injured party. The State is the injured party but he is not real. Where is the elected official representing the state? The DA is not an elected official lol

They are playing color games with you Negros. They are standing on your shoulders. When you all figure out who you are, you will stand up and they will fall off. They depend on you. You are the biggest consumer in America.
 
Ziryab;6119715 said:
zombie;6119682 said:
black = african person outside of africa

This post is equivocal. The O/P (the full truth) overrules it.

The Truth is here, serpent, and I know you fear It.

The truth is that even if african americans are not citizens as you claim that still does not MEAN THAT THEY ARE MOORS. Blacks in the americas are just west africans with a little white and very very small amount of native blood in them. why can you not accept that reality.

you are an insane person
 
You do not have to claim that you are Moor. Claim whatever nationality you choose to claim (you will have to provide proof of a nationality card) Just don't claim you are Black and stop playing those color games with them. As soon as we all stop playing, they lose power immediately. They need us.

As a collective, we are near 100% consumers and near 0% producers.
 
@Ziryab

That way of thinking might've been relevant in 1857, but it's 2013. The government made us citizens, that much has changed on paper, fact. It's written and documented for the world to see and use. And far as I know, unless black americans fit the the qualifications of the immigration and nationality act to denounce their citizenship, we're citizens. The 14th and all legal documents (job application, insurance, census, medical application, etc) all document us as such.

At the very least show us where the 14th amendment is legally void in the US for it's black citizens in 2013. Has this amendment been over turned as well?

The definitions are there, clear as day. We're americans. I'm an american man and, for descriptive purposes, black is my skin color. Just like there are many other american citizens of different skin colors (red, yellow, brown, white) and descents. It's as simple as that. My passport would not say otherwise to other countries.

And while actions of injustice across this country may show otherwise, our community is more than within their legal rights and context of the law, as citizens, to fight injustice should we chose to do so.
 
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Goat drop......

However......

My research is showing that the amendment with 20 sections was proposed and then dropped?????

Third page top paragraph.......

Let me know if you have any thing else on this.............

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Ziryab;6118902 said:
alissowack;6118797 said:
...this is about as bad as someone using the Bible to say God favors a specific race of people; that if it is in the Constitution, then it comes from a higher power.

The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land.

The Constitution is the foundation of democracy, which is based on the laws of insomnia. If you do not uphold the Constitution, you go against the laws of equality. If the Constitution is not respected, the power is NOT in the people's hands, therefore this is not democracy but more-so aristocracy, monarchy, or dictatorship.

The foundation of a lawsuit is someone's constitutional right has been violated so they are making a reclamation of that right by suing you. If you do not respect the Constitution, I have no idea how you expect the justice system to be fair to you.

Is the Constitution really respected? If we can find a way to get around upholding the laws of the land, then we would...no different than a pastor getting around with upholding the laws of God.
 
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