If there is a God

[fiat_money]

I'd be impressed that I could create a paper airplane that could think for itself and that could communicate its thoughts with me.

I certainly wouldn't be disappointed in the paper airplane for doing something that I gave it the ability to do.

Me: Finally done with my paper airplane.
Plane: No. I want to be a car.
Me: How dare you talk back to me!
Plane: Didn't you give me the ability to talk?
Me: Yes, but that doesn't give you the right to disagree with me.
Plane: Then why would you give me the freedom to form decisions and opinions?
Me: Because I assumed you'd agree with me.
Plane: Surely you should have had the foresight to know that the way you crafted me would lead to this outcome?
Me: Silence your insolent tongue!
Plane: But you gave me this tongue.
Me: Well I shouldn't have.
Plane: So where do we go from here?
Me: I'll have to subject you to infinite suffering as punishment for your behavior.
Plane: Oh dear.
Me: Yeh, it's going to be so bad, you'll hate it.
Plane: That seems a bit mean-spirited.
Me: No, I do it out of love.
Plane: Oh, well that changes everything. When does this suffering begin?
Me: I'll wait till after you die, to give you some time to change your ways and become the plane I want you to be.
Plane: That may prove a bit difficult. *Drives off*

 

[Shuffington]

God is a believer in Tiger parenting.
The Asians had it right all along.

 

[glowy]

Me: Finally done with my paper airplane.
Plane: No. I want to be a car.
Me: How dare you talk back to me!
Plane: Didn't you give me the ability to talk?
Me: Yes, but that doesn't give you the right to disagree with me.
Plane: Then why would you give me the freedom to form decisions and opinions?
Me: Because I assumed you'd agree with me.
Plane: Surely you should have had the foresight to know that the way you crafted me would lead to this outcome?
Me: Silence your insolent tongue!
Plane: But you gave me this tongue.
Me: Well I shouldn't have.
Plane: So where do we go from here?
Me: I'll have to subject you to infinite suffering as punishment for your behavior.
Plane: Oh dear.
Me: Yeh, it's going to be so bad, you'll hate it.
Plane: That seems a bit mean-spirited.
Me: No, I do it out of love.
Plane: Oh, well that changes everything. When does this suffering begin?
Me: I'll wait till after you die, to give you some time to change your ways and become the plane I want you to be.
Plane: That may prove a bit difficult. *Drives off*

lol, and that's exactly how it went down.

 

[And Step]

why should he be worshiped or 'obeyed'? Why should his subjective opinions be considered moral truths? Because he's more powerful than we are? In the same way that parents can be flawed and wrong, why can't an omnipotent, supernatural being be wrong?

Well, if you start with the premise that he is God. Then it would make sense that you accept direction and guidance in your life since he is the one who created the life process and the creation that accompanies it. it is just not a case of being all Powerful, it is case of being all-knowing and many other attributes that he predominates. You need tech support you call those who made your device. Same principle.

Interesting. People will sit under a college professor and soak up all that he has to offer with no questioning of his credentials, qualifications, or capabilities and he has never created anything. He at best has manipulated something that was produced from a creative force.

So you tell me, what is greater, the Creative force that produces it or he that makes something from the creation?

I refuse to stop at the maker, I want to connect with the source, and whatever that source is, it has proven that it is superior in knowledge, wisdom, and understanding because we came into existence and were presented with everything we want and need by that source.

My parents were just conduits.

 

[And Step]

no more than you put "beef with janklow for no discernible reason" in yours ... although i actually am suspecting you're doing that. because god forbid we comment on factual inaccuracies on the internet for any reason OTHER than "to be an ass."

Is that what you think I am doing? I helped you get your job, and that is how you think of me?

 

[spirituald]

There is a point... or is there a point? the world is like a ride in an amusement park and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are and the ride goes up and down and up and down and round and round and it has chills and thrills and it is very brightly colored and it is very loud and it is fun for a while. Some people have been on this ride for a long time and they began to question "is this real? or is this just a ride?". And other people have remembered and came back to us and say "hey, don't worry, don't be afraid, this is just a ride." Unfortunately, those get killed.

"Shut her up! We are Christians and we don't like what she said."

And I say "So, forgive me..... but that's something Jesus might do."

Have you ever noticed that society always kills those who try to tell us this here is just a ride. And it's great, because we can change that anytime we want. It is a choice between Fear and Love. The eyes of Fear want you to put bigger locks on your door and comply to governments and fake religions and the eyes of Love start seeing everyone as ONE.

 

[Rock_Well]

There is a point... or is there a point? the world is like a ride in an amusement park and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are and the ride goes up and down and up and down and round and round and it has chills and thrills and it is very brightly colored and it is very loud and it is fun for a while. Some people have been on this ride for a long time and they began to question "is this real? or is this just a ride?". And other people have remembered and came back to us and say "hey, don't worry, don't be afraid, this is just a ride." Unfortunately, those get killed.
"Shut her up! We are Christians and we don't like what she said."
And I say "So, forgive me..... but that's something Jesus might do."
Have you ever noticed that society always kills those who try to tell us this here is just a ride. And it's great, because we can change that anytime we want. It is a choice between Fear and Love. The eyes of Fear want you to put bigger locks on your door and comply to governments and fake religions and the eyes of Love start seeing everyone as ONE.

Interesting idea u hold there....but i notice you offer nothing more than empty words as proof that this is correct. Sry, i'll pass since it's not worth the risk. Also, the one you mentioned, Yeshua (Jesus), says differently than what you did.

 

[DRO]

..sooooooo

r yall suggesting that god "make" us worship him?....

Should he have just made us robots?.. Would that better suit yall?

 

[glowy]

..sooooooo

r yall suggesting that god "make" us worship him?....

Should he have just made us robots?.. Would that better suit yall?

Probably.

If we were robots we would worship him no problem, but on the other hand we will be tortured for eternity if we don't worship him.

Both seem just as bad.

Edit: The robot one doesn't involve any eternal torture, so I would go with that one.

 

[spirituald]

Interesting idea u hold there....but i notice you offer nothing more than empty words as proof that this is correct. Sry, i'll pass since it's not worth the risk. Also, the one you mentioned, Yeshua (Jesus), says differently than what you did.

Proof? What do you want me to prove?

I wrote Christians and Jesus in one sentence. Being you write Yeshua, the word Christian wouldn't apply to you now, or would it?

 

[spirituald]

yeah, and? Are you Christian? There is a difference in belief system. The ones who call on Jesus are usually Christians. The ones who believe in Yeshua usually do not claim a religion.

 

[spirituald]

Man, you are not getting the point of what I said.

zzzzippppit.

 

[spirituald]

I didn't argue that fact.

 

[fiat_money]

SMH @ "God" punishing people for literally being themselves.

He really is the biggest hater of all time.

 

[fiat_money]

SMH @ "God" punishing people for literally being themselves.

He really is the biggest hater of all time.

"Of all time!"

 

[JadaRoss]

God is real

 

[fiat_money]

"God" is not real.

 

[VIBE]

..sooooooo

r yall suggesting that god "make" us worship him?....

Should he have just made us robots?.. Would that better suit yall?

Yes, because what is the point otherwise?

God creates everyone for what purpose? He wants to be recognized, worshiped, acknowledged, praised, etc... right? Then he supposedly is all knowing, and creates beings with this "free will". He knows there will be these dudes who say "religion is bullshit, god isn't real". He created that, that was done by god, he knew that right?

What the fuck is the point in creating that, then saying, "yo I'm salty as hell right now, you're going to hell now".

If you want this, then do what cults do, make brainwashed robots. Do you not realize if we were created like that from the start then we wouldn't even know that we were "robots", we wouldn't know what free will is, so how would it affect us badly then? Everyone bitches about how we'd be robots but if we were originally created like that, we wouldn't know otherwise but to love and worship this god.

Hell the Christian bible makes no sense anyways, most of it's prophecies are "symbolic" or use terms in their times that we attribute to ours? Fuck, lets call Nostradamus God/Jesus and worship him too, he foresaw many things as well. Edgar Casey too, but wait they don't count, because their shit can just be "attributed to almost anything"...

just like the bible's shit.

IF there is a "God", then he's doing a horrible job.

 

[think]

Christianity > You.

 

[spirituald]

It's like playing The Sims.

Some people even get a thrill out of killing their Sims.... hmmmm.... and if we are made in his image.... well, laaawdhafmurceee ... the irony in it ....

lol