Identity Politics Run Amok: Autism is a culture?

[leftcoastkev]

It's open season.

Fuck it.

Anything goes.

But, wait..............

"We don't try to cure people of being Chinese, because that is unethical and impossible. "

Oh really....

Dr Samuel Cartwright would disagree.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4h3106.html
https://blackthen.com/drapetomania-cured-by-whipping-the-devil-out-the-negro-race/

In 1849, Louisiana State Medical Convention chose Southern physician and pro-#slavery advocate Samuel Cartwright to chair a committee; the tasks of Dr. Cartwright would be to investigate and report on the different unique diseases of African Americans. Cartwright examined and study many blacks and reported in 1851 at an annual meeting some of his findings.

In Dr. Cartwrights report, “Diseases and Physical Peculiarities of the Negro Race,” he claimed that blacks were very different physiologically from whites. Supposedly, #black people had smaller brains and sensitive skin, and overdeveloped nervous systems. For these reasons black people had a high propensity for servitude. Dr. Cartwright argued that “the Negro is a slave by nature and can never be happy – in any other condition.” He invented the term #DR*pedtomania, derived from the Greek words for “runaway slave” and “crazy,” to describe a curable mental disease. When slaves were infected with ‘dR*pedtomania’ they had the urge to flee bondage and seek freedom.

If a slave becomes “sulky and dissatisfied without reason,” then they may have dR*pedtomania and be about to flee. Cartwright recommended “whipping the devil out of them".

Cartwright found that the trigger of this horrible disease was from masters who treated their slaves as human beings and equals. But, all was not lost if a slave got the disease; there was a cure. The cure for ‘dR*pedtomania’ was severe whippings and amputation of the toes.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Thats why they call me crazy smmfh

 

[jono]

U cant tell me had they found a cure this girl would not be first in line to get it n get rid of her autism completely.

This shit reads as someone who is trying to accept what their life is. Instead of it weighing them down turn it into empowerment.

But its a dangerous, slippery slope.

Soon enough pedos and sex offenders are gonna be typing up bullshit like this.

It's becoming a snowflake society. Everybody whose abnormal wants their abnormality to be accepted even at the detriment to society and even themselves.

I heard Ben Shapiro or somebody say something interesting. He said what if we just affirmed what schizophrenics thought? That instead of telling people that they are hearing voices, we just tell them the voices they hear are real.

What would happen? What kind of quality of life is that to give someone?

That's the kind of thing we have here with these illnesses now. People are wrapping themselves in the autism flag and denouncing possible cures long before one is even developed because they want their illness to be politically viable.

I hate that nigga Ben shapiro but he be having some good points....

Same here. He made a good point on that but he obnoxious asf

 

[mryounggun]

There is a autism culture

maybe for the parents of autistic children, but not for the children/adults afflicted themselves.

Untrue. Definitely not in the way and to the extent that this dude is trying to claim. But there is definitely a culture among individuals who are afflicted.

 

[jono]

Autism and gender dysphoria are just the beginning.

If we start telling people their mental and medical problems are valid and no cause for concern we create some dangerous ideas.

*We tell anorexics that its okay to be anorexic.

*We let people with body dymorphoria chop off perfect healthy limbs because they think something is wrong with

*We let people who have phantom pain believe their pain is real

*We let people with PTSD think their thoughts are normal.

*We let people with bipolar disorder act however they want because theres nothing wrong with them

There's no such thing as mental problems, we're all just "special" and "different" despite the fact that mental illness is highly correlated with violence, criminal behavior and suicide.

what? autism is not body dymorphoria linked to any violent or criminal behavior

it refers to a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication

they can't just take a pill or join a support group and they are all good....for many it's a life long struggle

and this is about embracing one's self despite the challenges and stigma that we associate with ppl with autism opposed to trying to conform and deny yourself the support you may need

considering she isn't advocating for violence or demeaning any one group or thing, she should be free to express her opinion, same as you....like with any other idea a winner will emerge from the competition of ideas in public discourse

this argument her thinking is dangerous is actually the real danger

None of the people I mention can just take a pill and be good. All that shit is a life long struggle. Nothing you said is relevant to the post.

I said mental illness is correlated with violence, criminal behavior, and suicide. That's a fact.

Autism is correlated with self mutilation, same as body dysmorphics (like anorexics for instance). Also several studies have shown that a lack of social understanding leads to autistics ending up in jail (Lerner, et al., 2012).

At the end of the day, autism is a disorder. A malfunction in the brain and in social behavior, it can and should be managed for the betterment of the patient and the society.

It's also not healthy to let people with disorders choose their own treatment, because many think like this chick "there's nothing wrong with me." Trusting the judgment of someone who is mentally ill and untreated is naive.

 

[atribecalledgabi]

Deaf culture is more of a thing than autism culture

 

[konceptjones]

There is a autism culture

maybe for the parents of autistic children, but not for the children/adults afflicted themselves.

Untrue. Definitely not in the way and to the extent that this dude is trying to claim. But there is definitely a culture among individuals who are afflicted.

I would say this is true of kids with downs syndrome, but because Autism has such a huge range from barely there mentally to high functioning genius with "quirks" you can't really say that.

 

[TheGOAT]

Deaf culture is more of a thing than autism culture

I took a ASL college course and thats def true

 

[deadeye]

I'm starting to feel the same way about my weight.

Strongly considering joining NAAFA and building with other people who identify as overweight.

We've been oppressed for far too long and it's time we start fighting for our rights.

 

[deadeye]

I'm starting to feel the same way about my weight.

Strongly considering joining NAAFA and building with other people who identify as overweight.

We've been oppressed for far too long and it's time we start fighting for our rights.

 

[deadeye]

I'm starting to feel the same way about my weight.

Strongly considering joining NAAFA and building with other people who identify as overweight.

We've been oppressed for far too long and it's time we start fighting for our rights.

 

[mohamed]

I work with autistic kids and actually they say the opposite of what the girl says. My student just recently started communicating through a new therapy called rpm (after not being proficiently verbal most of his life) and told us he fills stuck in his own body.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Autism and gender dysphoria are just the beginning.

If we start telling people their mental and medical problems are valid and no cause for concern we create some dangerous ideas.

*We tell anorexics that its okay to be anorexic.

*We let people with body dymorphoria chop off perfect healthy limbs because they think something is wrong with

*We let people who have phantom pain believe their pain is real

*We let people with PTSD think their thoughts are normal.

*We let people with bipolar disorder act however they want because theres nothing wrong with them

There's no such thing as mental problems, we're all just "special" and "different" despite the fact that mental illness is highly correlated with violence, criminal behavior and suicide.

what? autism is not body dymorphoria linked to any violent or criminal behavior

it refers to a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication

they can't just take a pill or join a support group and they are all good....for many it's a life long struggle

and this is about embracing one's self despite the challenges and stigma that we associate with ppl with autism opposed to trying to conform and deny yourself the support you may need

considering she isn't advocating for violence or demeaning any one group or thing, she should be free to express her opinion, same as you....like with any other idea a winner will emerge from the competition of ideas in public discourse

this argument her thinking is dangerous is actually the real danger

None of the people I mention can just take a pill and be good. All that shit is a life long struggle. Nothing you said is relevant to the post.

I said mental illness is correlated with violence, criminal behavior, and suicide. That's a fact.

Autism is correlated with self mutilation, same as body dysmorphics (like anorexics for instance). Also several studies have shown that a lack of social understanding leads to autistics ending up in jail (Lerner, et al., 2012).

At the end of the day, autism is a disorder. A malfunction in the brain and in social behavior, it can and should be managed for the betterment of the patient and the society.

It's also not healthy to let people with disorders choose their own treatment, because many think like this chick "there's nothing wrong with me." Trusting the judgment of someone who is mentally ill and untreated is naive.

A correlation does not equal a causation. And u ever think a kid with autism could be more likely to act out if he or she bullied at school or feels isolated???? Maybe it could because they been made to feel like they were freaks

My point with the its a life long struggle is to say the suggestion that having autism is as big a part of ones identity as there nationality or ethnicity isnt all that silly

She actually encourages ppl to take steps to better their condition...dont recall her suggesting that should not take into consideration the recommendations of doctors and other trained professionals ...just don't jump from doctor to doctor and medication to medication chasing after a cure at the expense of the child...because there is none...

And this idea that a person with a mental disorder, illness should be the ward of the state and have no control over their own treatments regardless of the severity of their disorder or side effects? Smh....just wow

Also mental illness is a poor predictor of violence, ranking well after these factors: youth, male gender, history of violence, or poverty. Aside from people who abuse substances, people with mental illness commit violent acts at the same rate as nonpatients, and 80 percent to 90 percent of people with mental illness never commit violent acts.
http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/pn.36.9.0010

Like she said she focus should not be on achieving normalcy, but instead on learning to live happily and productively AS AUTISTICS

Fake news

 

[808HiLife808]

"Nor do we refer to said people as "having Chinese tendencies,"

we do over here...pake

 

[blakfyahking]

yeah I don't see a problem with this

if this makes them feel better about it, then what's the problem?

I'm surprised that more people are not cool with this considering how liberal mofos tend to be on this forum

 

[Will Munny]

Idc if u wanna be austisric I’m not gonna hold u back from it.

 

[Mister B.]

As a teacher primarily of autistic children, I do understand why someone would do this. There is a documentary of a set of men going around the world, trying to build a global network of autistic people like himself to help raise awareness for people living with autism, and I'm with that. Some of you really have no idea how different and difficult living as a person with autism - or even working, teaching, or caring for one - can be.

HOWEVER....

I think what's going to help people diagnosed on the Spectrum is to not make their Autism their whole identity. This doesn't help that cause. And in school, it's almost illegal to try to separate Autistic children from general Education kids.

 

[jono]

Autism and gender dysphoria are just the beginning.

If we start telling people their mental and medical problems are valid and no cause for concern we create some dangerous ideas.

*We tell anorexics that its okay to be anorexic.

*We let people with body dymorphoria chop off perfect healthy limbs because they think something is wrong with

*We let people who have phantom pain believe their pain is real

*We let people with PTSD think their thoughts are normal.

*We let people with bipolar disorder act however they want because theres nothing wrong with them

There's no such thing as mental problems, we're all just "special" and "different" despite the fact that mental illness is highly correlated with violence, criminal behavior and suicide.

what? autism is not body dymorphoria linked to any violent or criminal behavior

it refers to a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication

they can't just take a pill or join a support group and they are all good....for many it's a life long struggle

and this is about embracing one's self despite the challenges and stigma that we associate with ppl with autism opposed to trying to conform and deny yourself the support you may need

considering she isn't advocating for violence or demeaning any one group or thing, she should be free to express her opinion, same as you....like with any other idea a winner will emerge from the competition of ideas in public discourse

this argument her thinking is dangerous is actually the real danger

None of the people I mention can just take a pill and be good. All that shit is a life long struggle. Nothing you said is relevant to the post.

I said mental illness is correlated with violence, criminal behavior, and suicide. That's a fact.

Autism is correlated with self mutilation, same as body dysmorphics (like anorexics for instance). Also several studies have shown that a lack of social understanding leads to autistics ending up in jail (Lerner, et al., 2012).

At the end of the day, autism is a disorder. A malfunction in the brain and in social behavior, it can and should be managed for the betterment of the patient and the society.

It's also not healthy to let people with disorders choose their own treatment, because many think like this chick "there's nothing wrong with me." Trusting the judgment of someone who is mentally ill and untreated is naive.

A correlation does not equal a causation. And u ever think a kid with autism could be more likely to act out if he or she bullied at school or feels isolated???? Maybe it could because they been made to feel like they were freaks

Because autism isn't normal. Also, I never said anything about causation. Every kid gets bullied, you can get bullied because you have bucked teeth or because you have cheap shoes. Neither of which is the same as having a debilitating social disorder.

My point with the its a life long struggle is to say the suggestion that having autism is as big a part of ones identity as there nationality or ethnicity isnt all that silly

Its ludicrous. You talking about an individual building their identity around a sickness, its almost as if you're the one making fun of them.

She actually encourages ppl to take steps to better their condition...dont recall her suggesting that should not take into consideration the recommendations of doctors and other trained professionals ...just don't jump from doctor to doctor and medication to medication chasing after a cure at the expense of the child...because there is none...

None of this was stated by anyone.

And this idea that a person with a mental disorder, illness should be the ward of the state and have no control over their own treatments regardless of the severity of their disorder or side effects? Smh....just wow

Again, none of this was stated. The govt wasn't even mentioned. The fact is, mentally ill people are not always aware of their illness or the severity of it. Thats just a fact.

Thinking a mentally ill person is a fucking doctor is ridiculous. They can only answer whether treatment is working or not. A professional needs to decide whether treatment is necessary, and what that treatment should be

Also mental illness is a poor predictor of violence, ranking well after these factors: youth, male gender, history of violence, or poverty. Aside from people who abuse substances, people with mental illness commit violent acts at the same rate as nonpatients, and 80 percent to 90 percent of people with mental illness never commit violent acts.

Never made the comment that mental illness is a predictor to crime. I said correlation. Looking at simple jail stats you can see that over 50% of inmates have some kind of mental illness or learning disability. And guess what? It's usually untreated. Y'know, people living their whole lives acting out and not knowing why and nobody gave a fuck enough to find out.

Like she said she focus should not be on achieving normalcy, but instead on learning to live happily and productively AS AUTISTICS

Fake news

Normalcy is impossible. Rejecting treatment and possible cures because its a threat to your political grandstanding is nonsense.

Most of this response is straw man fallacies and misrepresenting what i said. Keep this up and I'm not going to keep reading all this shit.

 

[jono]

She literally said:

To cure us would be to stamp out our whole way of life, and this is NOT good medical practice or the like-it is genocide born of xenophobia-a fear of outsiders. In many ways we spectrumites are the ultimate outsiders, but that DOES NOT make our way of being less worthwhile. This is why I and most other adults on the spectrum are anti-cure.

She literally said curing autism is genocide.

Curing a fucking sickness is genocide.

A sickness is being equated to a race of people.

Am I the only nigga reading these words? Maybe we ought to consult some of the autistic folks that ram their heads against the walls or scream in fear if a stranger comes near them.

You can tell who has no experience with autistic people. That shit is no way to live. Unless you far on the spectrum most can't even function by themselves. What kind of life is that?

 

[Alpha_Ambition]

I dont believe in "autism"

Fake news

Explain