I would never marry a broke man .......

[ms.jones]

And you say that as if it doesn't happen, Du.

 

[will grimey]

A woman with money, wasting it on hair and irrelevant shit is just as worse as a broke biddie...

 

[MsSouthern]

Ok. You don't want to marry a broke man...

But Would you stay with a man who became broke after a few years of marriage?

For better or worse

Richer or poorer

in sickness and in health

Of course I would.... falling on hard times is different

 

[deadeye]

I don't have time for drawn out debates today...maybe tomorrow.

Definitely not your usual white woman.

 

[Dupac]

And you say that as if it doesn't happen, Du.

oh it absolutely does, all i've been saying is the shit comes off as shallow....

which would lead to a valid warning flag, regardless if taken offense to or not....

blanket statements like that almost always require a follow up discussion, or you're faced with the possibility that someone could draw a poor conclusion on how you really felt about the situation...

and that's what i think happened in this situation....

but yall so caught up on the "only broke niggaz would take offense" defense...and i really don't even think that's what it was about....

but i could be wrong....i just know that nobody wants a gold digger...broke or paid.. that shit's universal...

 

[MeTaL]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

 

[L.I.P.]

My mom always said it's not what you say, but how you say it.

 

[Dupac]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

still missing the point....

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...because that's what the blanket statement suggests.....

my whole argument is that if you leave it at that kinda statement, a person can very likely draw a unfair conclusion about your personality...

and when discussing marriage, it's important that the reasons for the marriage aren't seen as that superficial....

 

[fiat_money]

As far as trash bitches go:

Broke bitches>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat bitches

Broke bitches can still get dicked.

Broke bitches are undisciplined with something that has less of a direct impact on their lifespan.

Broke bitches don't have to actively maintain their brokeness.

Fat bitches are shit, and they stay losing.

 

[UPTOWN]

Someone who lives paycheck to paycheck with no ambition

Someone who job hops becasue they can't learn skills to stick something out

A grown man who works at places like McD's or Subway

Someone with no savings.. .or 401k or some kind of retirement. To me it shows no plans for the future

All of those = broke

Well if this is the case, then I have to no sign

I could go in on this, but at the end of the day, you can't mix business with whatever is personal or vice versa and expect to succeed at either one

 

[fiat_money]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

...

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...

Bruh, you just subjectively interpreted a statement, and said if he doesn't agree with you he's not looking at it objectively enough.

Any preference can be considered "shallow" or "superficial". An ex-con/fat/dumb/stuttering/child molesting nigga could also say it's "shallow" or "superficial" not to marry them just because they're an ex-con/fat/dumb/stuttering/child molesting nigga.

Shit's subjective as fuck.

 

[blakfyahking]

I assume feelings have been caught

which is why this thread is 8 pgs long

I don't see a problem with what t/s said

 

[MeTaL]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

still missing the point....

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...because that's what the blanket statement suggests.....

my whole argument is that if you leave it at that kinda statement, a person can very likely draw a unfair conclusion about your personality...

and when discussing marriage, it's important that the reasons for the marriage aren't seen as that superficial....

Then let them draw an unfair conclusion.. It is what is .. If they feel some type of way on it.. That's on them.. They can take it however THEY want.. If you du believe the statement ms southern said is shallow to you.. that's on YOU bro.. If I told a woman I don't date broke bitches.. and if she feels some way about it.. THAT"s on her.. she can take it however she wants..

 

[5th Letter]

Nah @Jamaica that is broke. Now some chicks will stick with you through that if you have ambition and desire something better as you described (along with some semblance of a plan), but that is broke.

A person can live comfortable going check to check. It all depends on someones definition of the term "broke" a chick at my job is paying 200 a week because she is so behind on her rent. That is "broke" a person being able to pay their bills and live comfortable isn't broke.

 

[Dupac]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

...

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...

Bruh, you just subjectively interpreted a statement, and said if he doesn't agree with you he's not looking at it objectively enough.

Any preference can be considered "shallow" or "superficial". An ex-con/fat/dumb/stuttering/child molesting nigga could also say it's "shallow" or "superficial" not to marry them just because they're an ex-con/fat/dumb/stuttering/child molesting nigga.

Shit's subjective as fuck.

it sounds like you're pretty much explaining and supporting my argument....

the solution i'm presenting is to further explain ones argument to avoid being unintentionally viewed in a certain way......

that was her complaint, that's what we were debating.....

what i explained was that her statement could easily be considered a blanket statement and taken the wrong way.....

and the defense was that it shouldn't be so, and only a person who took offense would have a problem with it....

both of those can be viewed as subjective points of views.....

so my original solution of further explanation and dialogue can pretty much prevent that from happening...

basically when you make blunt subjective statements, you leave the door open for people to make blunt subjective assumptions

cause and effect, me explaining that doesn't mean i'm defending the assumption, i'm just understanding how it would lead to that...

 

[Dupac]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

still missing the point....

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...because that's what the blanket statement suggests.....

my whole argument is that if you leave it at that kinda statement, a person can very likely draw a unfair conclusion about your personality...

and when discussing marriage, it's important that the reasons for the marriage aren't seen as that superficial....

Then let them draw an unfair conclusion.. It is what is .. If they feel some type of way on it.. That's on them.. They can take it however THEY want.. If you du believe the statement ms southern said is shallow to you.. that's on YOU bro.. If I told a woman I don't date broke bitches.. and if she feels some way about it.. THAT"s on her.. she can take it however she wants..

but what's the harm in further explaining your argument to address why it is you feel that way??? it can do a world of difference to how it's received. thread was made because obviously ms s felt some kind of way about the conclusion his boy drew on her.......

my stance is simply the statement she made could very easily draw a false interpretation on the kind of person she is....and she either didn't understand that or felt some kind of way about it.....

if someone feels as though..."oh well that's on them" i can totally respect that....but when you start asking questions to how can conclusion B be drawn from statement, answers will be given....

 

[blackrain]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

still missing the point....

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...because that's what the blanket statement suggests.....

my whole argument is that if you leave it at that kinda statement, a person can very likely draw a unfair conclusion about your personality...

and when discussing marriage, it's important that the reasons for the marriage aren't seen as that superficial....

Then let them draw an unfair conclusion.. It is what is .. If they feel some type of way on it.. That's on them.. They can take it however THEY want.. If you du believe the statement ms southern said is shallow to you.. that's on YOU bro.. If I told a woman I don't date broke bitches.. and if she feels some way about it.. THAT"s on her.. she can take it however she wants..

But the issue is that most people can't take when folks have a negative opinion of them, especially based on something that's not true...most people don't have the "I'll say what I want and fuck what everybody else thinks" mentality...people like to pretend they do, but other people's opinions matter more than people often like to admit...if not this thread would have never even been made...

 

[Dupac]

I see nothing wrong at all with ms southern said.That's her standards.. Some men refuse to date fat women. Some women refuse to date broke men.. It is what it is.. If somebody throws fits and punches and get offended..because of what that person said.. That's on you..Take it how ever you want it.. If It doesn't pertain to you.. touche..

still missing the point....

it has nothing to do with taking offense....it's solely about considering those statements to be shallow....

i mean if you don't see them as shallow statements, then you're really not looking at it objectively enough....

the basis of the debate is not considering a person worthy of marriage for something essentially viewed as superficial...because that's what the blanket statement suggests.....

my whole argument is that if you leave it at that kinda statement, a person can very likely draw a unfair conclusion about your personality...

and when discussing marriage, it's important that the reasons for the marriage aren't seen as that superficial....

Then let them draw an unfair conclusion.. It is what is .. If they feel some type of way on it.. That's on them.. They can take it however THEY want.. If you du believe the statement ms southern said is shallow to you.. that's on YOU bro.. If I told a woman I don't date broke bitches.. and if she feels some way about it.. THAT"s on her.. she can take it however she wants..

But the issue is that most people can't take when folks have a negative opinion of them, especially based on something that's not true...most people don't have the "I'll say what I want and fuck what everybody else thinks" mentality...people like to pretend they do, but other people's opinions matter more than people often like to admit...if not this thread would have never even been made...

exactly 100%

and all i'm saying is that coulda been avoided just by going just a it further into the conversation...

 

[MorganFreemanKing]

Someone who lives paycheck to paycheck with no ambition

Someone who job hops becasue they can't learn skills to stick something out

A grown man who works at places like McD's or Subway

Someone with no savings.. .or 401k or some kind of retirement. To me it shows no plans for the future

All of those = broke

no. they equal something worse than simply "broke"

 

[Dupac]

Someone who lives paycheck to paycheck with no ambition

Someone who job hops becasue they can't learn skills to stick something out

A grown man who works at places like McD's or Subway

Someone with no savings.. .or 401k or some kind of retirement. To me it shows no plans for the future

All of those = broke

@MorganFreemanKing

thanks for quoting this....

i feel like if this was her original argument.. thread goes 7 -8 posts......... 10 posts tops....

like 4 people woulda typed cosign...

one person woulda said something like "no ambition in life is the WOAT"

someone woulda said "who want start a life with someone who don't want to do shit with theirs??"

then the inevitable



"

^^^^^^this

/thread"