How Magna Carta Holy Grail really grew on me and what it says about Jay's current status

[DarthRozay]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

U actually listened to that? Woat hater

hell nah. I might be white but I ain't listening to that saltine cracker

 

[DarthRozay]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH I MESSED WITH POST RETIRED JAY ALBUMS

American Gangster>MCHG

KC>MCHG

MCHG>BP3

 

[Knives Amilli]

If you think mchg is better than wtt then cool, but your reasoning for why doesnt make any sense. He celebrated black excellence more on mchg cuz he referenced basquiat? What about the "I hope my black skin dont stain this white tuxedo" shit?

And then you said it was more cohesive than wtt soley because of the production, thats a lame reason. Lyrically he touched on much more topics on wtt.

I actually think WTT was better but i dont think the two can be directly compared as WTT was a collabo. I said MCHG was arguably Jays best SOLO album post Blk.album.

I only brought up WTT as its the last record Jay was on before MCHG and the only relevant benchmark Jay can be held to (and as such people say he was in worst form on MCHG and his performance in WTT was met with mixed results).

Also WTT is thematically very similar to MCHG as its the first album jay was really on that black excellence shit.

 

[Knives Amilli]

If you think mchg is better than wtt then cool, but your reasoning for why doesnt make any sense. He celebrated black excellence more on mchg cuz he referenced basquiat? What about the "I hope my black skin dont stain this white tuxedo" shit?

And then you said it was more cohesive than wtt soley because of the production, thats a lame reason. Lyrically he touched on much more topics on wtt.

Oh and about that black tuxedo line....i dont know what you mean by it, but i thought it was the most poignant line in the whole song.

Its all about how blacks are so conditioned to be societally insecure and self haring

 

[buttuh_b]

Nah that shit sucked

 

[Knives Amilli]

If you think mchg is better than wtt then cool, but your reasoning for why doesnt make any sense. He celebrated black excellence more on mchg cuz he referenced basquiat? What about the "I hope my black skin dont stain this white tuxedo" shit?

And then you said it was more cohesive than wtt soley because of the production, thats a lame reason. Lyrically he touched on much more topics on wtt.

Oh and about that black tuxedo line....i dont know what you mean by it, but i thought it was the most poignant line in the whole song.

Its all about how blacks are so conditioned to be societally insecure and self hating because of our race (and this is especially true in the upper echelons of society) that one has feelings of uncertainty even though the very event theyre attending is an acclaimed exhibition of art produced by a Black man.

EDIT:fucking dbl post damn iphone im at work

 

[nujerz84]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

 

[Already Home_17]

good album

 

[hoodsavior]

This shit is new.. A lot of great rappers his age are doing nostalgia tours or makin music that is utterly forgettable.. Dudes young in the game still request his services for hit appeal and not just for street cred or that "ode to hip hop" feature.. I'm not saying that should make people not critique him or hold him to a better standard.. But respect the fact that from a still relevant standpoint its really just him and snoop..

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

it was the 2nd highest grossing tour of 2013 though and sold out every venue except for san antonio

 

[GetoBoy]

I think it's a lot better then ppl give it credit for but when it comes to jay music whether for better or worse the grading scale is also skewed a bit and is left with no middle ground either it's a arguable classic or its trash

 

[nujerz84]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

it was the 2nd highest grossing tour of 2013 though and sold out every venue except for san antonio

I already know you're an idiot but

Kanye wasnt even in Top 25.. try again

m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/75186

m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/19142

and his tour is struggling and a total flop while Yeezus is his lowest selling album of his career and it has no hit record.

radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/02/kanye-west-concert-tickets-half-price-low-demand/

gigwise.com/news/85718/kanye-west-postpones-more-yeezus-shows-as-tour-continues-to-struggle

slumz.boxden.com/f87/kanye-west-s-latest-concert-fills-only-4-500-seats-19-000-arena-2010074/

 

[metal face terrorist]

You niggas talk about Jay too much. And be saying the same shit. Didn't y'all rank this nigga catalog a few a months ago. This shit ain't grew on shit.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

Bound 2 peaked at #12

Shipped Platinum

And the Yeezus tour was the 2nd highest selling tour in 2013

 

[IceBergTaylor]

LOL at those sources with their "performing at half-empty" stadiums

the same media that hates Kanye West

As a person who went to the Yeezus tour there was nothing half-empty about the arena that nite.

 

[metal face terrorist]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

Bound 2 peaked at #12

Shipped Platinum

And the Yeezus tour was the 2nd highest selling tour in 2013

But the album was wack tho nigga. Fuck sales and tours. Niggas always bring that shit up.

 

[nujerz84]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

Bound 2 peaked at #12

Shipped Platinum

And the Yeezus tour was the 2nd highest selling tour in 2013

I gave two links Yeezus wasnt even in top 25 tours of 2013 by any metrics. Were this # 2 tour of 2013 coming from?

Shipped platinum how much he actually sell? And he top hit was #12 not even a top 10 hit rest my case.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

Bound 2 peaked at #12

Shipped Platinum

And the Yeezus tour was the 2nd highest selling tour in 2013

I gave two links Yeezus wasnt even in top 25 tours of 2013 by any metrics. Were this # 2 tour of 2013 coming from?

Shipped platinum how much he actually sell? And he top hit was #12 not even a top 10 hit rest my case.

RIAA only counts Shipped albums

and LOL at this bolded nitpicking so having a #12 isnt a hit now? GTFOH

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Album was hot for a week.

that's 7 days longer than MMLP2 was hot

MMLP2 and MCHG can at least claim to being hot..cant say that with Yeezus

nah bruh. yeezus so hot it'll scorch ya damn face.

lol no radio/video presence, no hit record.. lowest selling album of his career and performing in half empty stadiums for his Yeezus tour says otherwise.

Bound 2 peaked at #12

Shipped Platinum

And the Yeezus tour was the 2nd highest selling tour in 2013

But the album was wack tho nigga. Fuck sales and tours. Niggas always bring that shit up.

I clearly was addressing the no hit record, lowest selling album, etc part of duke's post. FOH nigga...