How is "Ether" a classic diss but not "you gotta love it" or "Curtis" ??

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_God_;540426 said:
Ether was filled with non provable statements and jokes and ppl treat this as the standards for diss records. Then Camron takes the same route to slaughter jayz and 50 cent and so called hip hop purist act as if it was insignificant or wack. Both of these diss records overshadowed ether by far. Nas was dead when ether came out . Cam shut nyc down with both these diss records. And they are arguably better songs than ether. Ether is overrated by Nas stans. Even xzibits diss to jermaine dupri is comparable to ether.

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What makes ether better honestly?

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Nothing honestly came out of Cam's beefs that he had that was really all that legendary. Jay & 50 kept doin them, Cam's kinda faded in the backround. There's a reason why on wax they didn't take him seriously. Plus Cam came off as a bitter dude more than the better rapper outta those "beefs".

I still like Cam but comparing those to either is stupid.
 
grYmes;8611762 said:
Nothing honestly came out of Cam's beefs that he had that was really all that legendary. Jay & 50 kept doin them, Cam's kinda faded in the backround. There's a reason why on wax they didn't take him seriously. Plus Cam came off as a bitter dude more than the better rapper outta those "beefs".

I still like Cam but comparing those to either is stupid.

But it's more like jayz made it look like that, he got forced out of a contract. It's not bitterness it's beef, beef that they had since 98
 
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grYmes;8611762 said:
Nothing honestly came out of Cam's beefs that he had that was really all that legendary. Jay & 50 kept doin them, Cam's kinda faded in the backround. There's a reason why on wax they didn't take him seriously. Plus Cam came off as a bitter dude more than the better rapper outta those "beefs".

I still like Cam but comparing those to either is stupid.

But it's more like jayz made it look like that, he got forced out of a contract. It's not bitterness it's beef, beef that they had since 98

That is true, but Cam didn't really start hitting Jay with disses until he was already beginning the downturn of his career (mainstream wise anyways). Same with 50. Perception is everything. I remember a lot of people wasn't tryin to ride with Cam no more after that (didn't help that Dipset was also beginning its rift). While I admit Cam made me laugh with some of them bars, overall it didn't amount to shit.

People can argue rather Either was good or if Nas or Jay won. But it made a lasting impact on rap. Cam can't say that about his disses. Which is sad cuz he was right to make them songs, he just went about it wrong.
 
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The problem with Cam's disses was that nobody knew WHY he was beefing in the first place. It seemed like he just hopped on the bandwagon and made a diss record.

And he wasn't on the same level as Jay or 50.

But that's not to say he doesn't have skills. I was listening to Welcome To New York City a few days ago and he definitely held his own with Jay.
 
grYmes;8611762 said:
Nothing honestly came out of Cam's beefs that he had that was really all that legendary. Jay & 50 kept doin them, Cam's kinda faded in the backround. There's a reason why on wax they didn't take him seriously. Plus Cam came off as a bitter dude more than the better rapper outta those "beefs".

I still like Cam but comparing those to either is stupid.

Cam fucked up when he went missing..

Then he popped up out of nowhere with a video talking shit on Fif while standing in front of that little as swimming pool..

Lol.. Killa kept telling the camera man,

"Make sure you get the pool"..

Then Fif made a video clowning that little ass pool.. Shit was hilarious..

But killa's disses were on point..

I never heard anybody say they were wack..
 
Granted, I'm living in the projects right now, but even I know not to go at 50 Cent with a pool like that.
 
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5 Grand;8611810 said:
The problem with Cam's disses was that nobody knew WHY he was beefing in the first place. It seemed like he just hopped on the bandwagon and made a diss record.

And he wasn't on the same level as Jay or 50.

But that's not to say he doesn't have skills. I was listening to Welcome To New York City a few days ago and he definitely held his own with Jay.

In nyc at that time there cam Jay and Nas, 50 was last to get on and this was major in the city. Cam said " you can fool the rest of the world as long New York know"

And wit the pool and "going missing"

Cam was showing he actually owned homes and businesses so when it came to the "money talk" he was on the same level which he really is. He chooses not to seperate himself from the ppl tho.

They cam dissed Jay should have been percieved the same way when Jay dropped takeover
 
5 Grand;8611825 said:
Granted, I'm living in the projects right now, but even I know not to go at 50 Cent with a pool like that.


Thats A 95 Dollar A Night Airbnb Outchere Mayne...Cam Wasn't Stylin On Nobody With That Bullshit Pad

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