How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[BenjaminE]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

Didn't you hear? He's the east coast Too Short...

Anybody that think Jeru is wack need to wack themselves

That Too Short comment was sarcasm, but Jeru never moved me as much as say Pharoahe Monch...

Also y'all criticize any east coast rapper that doesn't do boom bap but apparently y'all don't/never liked boom bap

Which is it?

Who? Me?

Also y'all criticize any east coast rapper that doesn't do boom bap but apparently y'all don't/never liked boom bap

Which is it?

It's like White people hating on Black people but copying the style.

We're white now?

Kiss my Nike Cortez... Ya'll niggaz eat the poo poo...

 

[StillFaggyAF]

easy answer, The Chronic, end of story. It shifted to the west, and then to the south and it's still there.

Nah, it's not that simple.

You gotta remember nyc ain't like every other city in the nation. Nyc style, slang, and music wasn't relatable to everyone outside of the city with the exception of maybe a few people.

The south is more uniformed when it comes to music and styles. For example if I'm from Memphis and niggas from Texas is dropping music. I would relate to Texas niggas more than Nyc niggas just based off geography alone. Similar environment and experiences. Same goes with the west. Niggas on the west was making powerful music, don't get me wrong.

So if I'm from Arizona and Cali is putting out fire music. I'm gonna gravitate towards what's familiar to me.

It's 9 million people in Nyc. So many different cultures. I know West Indian people who don't listen to rap. Asian people who don't listen to rap. Etc etc. you factor all that in. And you could understand why those artists weren't going gold or platinum.

NYC is whole nother beast

@qd3

You make a strong point but the North East relate to NY. Pretty much from VA to Boston or Quebec is NY strongest markets. Then Florida, LA, and in the past Atlanta. I also know New Yorkers who didn't listen to rap.

I always thought that this was interesting. VA is southern but has always been linked to ny hip hop and r&b more than southern rap IMO maybe due to I-95

Also NC...damn near all their artists are boom bap or NYC influenced

 

[AggieLean.]

NC & VA do love them some New York. I remember when I was in school in NC they were trying to call themselves the Middle East instead of the south lol. Real south starts in SC lol

 

[smp4life]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

Pimp C got game from his stepfather who was a musician.

He rapped

"most of this rap shit is just noise

"But if you put some music in it, you'll get rich boy

That's why I stay up in the studio, up all night

I fuck with live musicians to get the groove right"

Hearing dope bars back to back is nice but like Krit said "If it can't touch my soul then I can't listen to it"

True. Dre and Quik and cats like that were using a lot of session musicians instead of just cutting up samples.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

I brought him up jokingly because Jeru more than likely is the last rapper you would be bumping when you're trying to pull bitches, but after the blatant disrespect I was trying to give him his props because I do like his shit, but in reality he's probably not even in my top 40

 

[a_list]

Damn niggas still at it....Yo for all the flack that Boom Bap is catching, them cats were able to tour the country....Niggas prolly still touring.....lol

 

[5 Grand]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

I brought him up jokingly because Jeru more than likely is the last rapper you would be bumping when you're trying to pull bitches, but after the blatant disrespect I was trying to give him his props because I do like his shit, but in reality he's probably not even in my top 40

Yeah Jeru might not be my favorite MC but his first two albums are classics.

Truth be told I haven't heard his later albums.

 

[Listencloser]

During the height of the Westcoast G Funk era there were 20 signed NYC artist with gold records for every mainstream westcoast artist. Please stop this madness. Why do you think DEF jam signed Warren G and not many other West Coast artist then drop him like a brick the second he started to play out?

 

[StillFaggyAF]

NC & VA do love them some New York. I remember when I was in school in NC they were trying to call themselves the Middle East instead of the south lol. Real south starts in SC lol

https://books.google.com/books?id=OEY849PmL10C&pg=PT126&lpg=PT126&dq=middle+east+hip+hop+virginia+north+carolina&source=bl&ots=qwpL1gyKC-&sig=avxnXruy8jXNOgkKf5wFdn8HPwA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigwNSWkMbOAhVI0h4KHTTVBYUQ6AEIWjAQ#v=onepage&q=middle%20east%20hip%20hop%20virginia%20north%20carolina&f=false

 

[a_list]

Damn niggas still at it....Yo for all the flack that Boom Bap is catching, them cats were able to tour the country....Niggas prolly still touring.....lol

Of course they're touring niggas in here popping their pussies. All these acts from both coast are out here still getting money only the fans are biased jackasses. East had a run, West had a run now the South got it. It will come back around like everything else.

Some have said that they were really caught up in that East vs West shyt, but over 20 years later that shyt shouldnt be so apparent...lol Yo, the craziest shyt tho, niggas was bashing NY for the first like 8 pages @hiphop12345 comes in clapping back and now he's the bias hater...yo only on the IC..lol

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

NC & VA do love them some New York. I remember when I was in school in NC they were trying to call themselves the Middle East instead of the south lol. Real south starts in SC lol

ill jus chalk it up to those regions/cities having no local contemporary identity....i slid thru a few of those myself *cough*kansas city*cough*..

they all over the country. i can understand las vegas being on some cali shit......but arizona?! cmon...talkin bout some west coast nigga plz

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

nyc let yall pioneers die off

yall pop that support the emcee shit but dont back it up...ud catch 40 or too short on an nyc record before kane or doug, stop the bullshit. yall sank yourselves. macklemore had to put yall ogs back on some new shit..thats a bad look...and its all on yall

 

[king hassan]

I just listen to great music, I don't give a fuck if it sells or not. and I don't give a dame if it's north, south east or west, does it really matter

 

[5 Grand]

During the height of the Westcoast G Funk era there were 20 signed NYC artist with gold records for every mainstream westcoast artist. Please stop this madness. Why do you think DEF jam signed Warren G and not many other West Coast artist then drop him like a brick the second he started to play out?

Interesting point. You're saying that while 3 or 4 West Coast albums went multiplat there were dozens of East Coast albums that went gold. That may be true but I remember vividly that Illmatic didn't go gold when it came out and that got 5 mics in The Source.

 

[hiphop12345]

nyc let yall pioneers die off

yall pop that support the emcee shit but dont back it up...ud catch 40 or too short on an nyc record before kane or doug, stop the bullshit. yall sank yourselves. macklemore had to put yall ogs back on some new shit..thats a bad look...and its all on yall

NY was producing so much talent that did become a reality. Look at the 93/94 shift. You ever seen so many dope artist get pushed to the side?

During the height of the Westcoast G Funk era there were 20 signed NYC artist with gold records for every mainstream westcoast artist. Please stop this madness. Why do you think DEF jam signed Warren G and not many other West Coast artist then drop him like a brick the second he started to play out?

Interesting point. You're saying that while 3 or 4 West Coast albums went multiplat there were dozens of East Coast albums that went gold. That may be true but I remember vividly that Illmatic didn't go gold when it came out and that got 5 mics in The Source.

It went gold like around IWW time. NY won the quality and quantity battle, that's why during that era the east produced more legends.

People front now though, like Mobb Deep wasn't doing more numbers than a UGK.

 

[CapitalB]

nyc let yall pioneers die off

yall pop that support the emcee shit but dont back it up...ud catch 40 or too short on an nyc record before kane or doug, stop the bullshit. yall sank yourselves. macklemore had to put yall ogs back on some new shit..thats a bad look...and its all on yall

NY was producing so much talent that did become a reality. Look at the 93/94 shift. You ever seen so many dope artist get pushed to the side?

During the height of the Westcoast G Funk era there were 20 signed NYC artist with gold records for every mainstream westcoast artist. Please stop this madness. Why do you think DEF jam signed Warren G and not many other West Coast artist then drop him like a brick the second he started to play out?

Interesting point. You're saying that while 3 or 4 West Coast albums went multiplat there were dozens of East Coast albums that went gold. That may be true but I remember vividly that Illmatic didn't go gold when it came out and that got 5 mics in The Source.

It went gold like around IWW time. NY won the quality and quantity battle, that's why during that era the east produced more legends.

People front now though, like Mobb Deep wasn't doing more numbers than a UGK.

my nigga..

ur waaaaaaaaaaaaay too invested. lol

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

nyc let yall pioneers die off

yall pop that support the emcee shit but dont back it up...ud catch 40 or too short on an nyc record before kane or doug, stop the bullshit. yall sank yourselves. macklemore had to put yall ogs back on some new shit..thats a bad look...and its all on yall

NY was producing so much talent that did become a reality. Look at the 93/94 shift. You ever seen so many dope artist get pushed to the side?

During the height of the Westcoast G Funk era there were 20 signed NYC artist with gold records for every mainstream westcoast artist. Please stop this madness. Why do you think DEF jam signed Warren G and not many other West Coast artist then drop him like a brick the second he started to play out?

Interesting point. You're saying that while 3 or 4 West Coast albums went multiplat there were dozens of East Coast albums that went gold. That may be true but I remember vividly that Illmatic didn't go gold when it came out and that got 5 mics in The Source.

It went gold like around IWW time. NY won the quality and quantity battle, that's why during that era the east produced more legends.

People front now though, like Mobb Deep wasn't doing more numbers than a UGK.

But UGK>>>Mobb Deep...

 

[CapitalB]

i swear..

only NY niggas live vicariously thru their artists. hahahaha

 

[BedStuy]

:smirk: really? 11 pages of predictability and redundancy ensive:

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

i swear..

only NY niggas live vicariously thru their artists. hahahaha

Could you imagine a cat on the west just sitting by his radio like

"Damn, I wish I could be a Crip! It would be sooooooooo awesome!"

Just go outside and bang already little youngin