How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[hiphop12345]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol

Lol one of my good friend told me that same thing. Said he went to NY in the 90's for the first time and said he never seen so many hustlers in his life. He thought everybody was going to be on the train with back packs but instead saw brothas with foreign whips(always a NY thing) and bad as women from everywhere.

It's funny how times and perception is a mothafucka. In the 70's and 80's NY was partying like a mothafucka while cats in L.A was killing each other over rainbow colors.

"But I don't party and shake my butt, I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts"



"I don't wanna see no dancing I'm sick of that shit"

Got damn Cube, you at the party like this?:

Lighten up from time to time and have fun:

niggas wasn't killing each other in the 70s and early 80s..

and breaking came out looooooooong before house party..

oh wait.. u thought LA was all gangbangin?? lol

and nobody said NY niggas wasn't getting money and having bitches..

but them niggas u speak of was loving the fuck out of that WestCoast shit i can guarantee u that... and they damn sure wasn't playing that Jeru shit. lol

funny NY don't support they own like they do other regions seein as back then even though all the hate was commin out of NY all the albums was going IN to NY.. maybe y'all was jus buyin the shit to talk about how simple our shit was.. as well as the South. lol

Yea Kool Herc was going nuts over West coast music.

Didn't you think that if non NY albums was selling in NY that maybe NY wasn't hating as much as you think?

Edit add-on:

Did you seriously think that I thought House party invented breaking?

 

[hiphop12345]

Damn this Hip Hop guy came in blasting

Don't gas that nigga @hiphop12345 up he came in here with that jack mackerel between his legs as usual.

He was so quick type w/ his pussy popper he overlooked the fact the majority of those OGs independent to this day.

And for the record, I'd slap the ovaries out ya ass so chill out with the blatant disrespect.

Wait a minute, you gonna slap me or him?

He not going to slap anyone.

From the interview that almost got Biggie clapped in Sactown

Too $hort: Ten. That’s my dog right there. I love that nigga. That’s my

man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, I ain’t got to see that

shit yet. I know that shit was hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were

just kickin’ it and shit. That’s my dog. I love that man.

He sits and reflects on what we have asked and offers, “I’m into fly pimp,

straight flat shit. I don’t like no nigga that I have to decipher but some

shit that I don dicipher I give a ten…Nas, I give Jeru a ten, I give

ummmmm?…."

I'm reminded of this because somehow it turned into Jeru vs Too short, point is it's not impossible to like both

Yea he gave E-40 a zero. Talk about having to decipher.

 

[CapitalB]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol

Lol one of my good friend told me that same thing. Said he went to NY in the 90's for the first time and said he never seen so many hustlers in his life. He thought everybody was going to be on the train with back packs but instead saw brothas with foreign whips(always a NY thing) and bad as women from everywhere.

It's funny how times and perception is a mothafucka. In the 70's and 80's NY was partying like a mothafucka while cats in L.A was killing each other over rainbow colors.

"But I don't party and shake my butt, I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts"



"I don't wanna see no dancing I'm sick of that shit"

Got damn Cube, you at the party like this?:

Lighten up from time to time and have fun:

niggas wasn't killing each other in the 70s and early 80s..

and breaking came out looooooooong before house party..

oh wait.. u thought LA was all gangbangin?? lol

and nobody said NY niggas wasn't getting money and having bitches..

but them niggas u speak of was loving the fuck out of that WestCoast shit i can guarantee u that... and they damn sure wasn't playing that Jeru shit. lol

funny NY don't support they own like they do other regions seein as back then even though all the hate was commin out of NY all the albums was going IN to NY.. maybe y'all was jus buyin the shit to talk about how simple our shit was.. as well as the South. lol

Yea Kool Herc was going nuts over West coast music.

Didn't you think that if non NY albums was selling in NY that maybe NY wasn't hating as much as you think?

nah.. jus the publications.. yall radios and yall internet posters..

real see real..

its jus that u fake niggas have the loudest voice..

that and niggas gettin money and havin bitches got better shit to do then argue who's best..

if the shit hot.. if the shit real.. we fuck wit it. lol

but nigga yall niggas is haters.. yall hate yo own artists.. but shit.. yall hate urselves and try to hide it behind a fake facade of bein proud..

thats why yall always gotta remind niggas where u from.. what u did.. and so on.. it aint us yall really tryin to convince..

u niggas got issues bruh! lol

 

[CapitalB]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol

Lol one of my good friend told me that same thing. Said he went to NY in the 90's for the first time and said he never seen so many hustlers in his life. He thought everybody was going to be on the train with back packs but instead saw brothas with foreign whips(always a NY thing) and bad as women from everywhere.

It's funny how times and perception is a mothafucka. In the 70's and 80's NY was partying like a mothafucka while cats in L.A was killing each other over rainbow colors.

"But I don't party and shake my butt, I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts"



"I don't wanna see no dancing I'm sick of that shit"

Got damn Cube, you at the party like this?:

Lighten up from time to time and have fun:

niggas wasn't killing each other in the 70s and early 80s..

and breaking came out looooooooong before house party..

oh wait.. u thought LA was all gangbangin?? lol

and nobody said NY niggas wasn't getting money and having bitches..

but them niggas u speak of was loving the fuck out of that WestCoast shit i can guarantee u that... and they damn sure wasn't playing that Jeru shit. lol

funny NY don't support they own like they do other regions seein as back then even though all the hate was commin out of NY all the albums was going IN to NY.. maybe y'all was jus buyin the shit to talk about how simple our shit was.. as well as the South. lol

Yea Kool Herc was going nuts over West coast music.

Didn't you think that if non NY albums was selling in NY that maybe NY wasn't hating as much as you think?

Edit add-on:

Did you seriously think that I thought House party invented breaking?

no, but u seriously thought we was out here not lettin loose havin a good time...

 

[hiphop12345]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol

Lol one of my good friend told me that same thing. Said he went to NY in the 90's for the first time and said he never seen so many hustlers in his life. He thought everybody was going to be on the train with back packs but instead saw brothas with foreign whips(always a NY thing) and bad as women from everywhere.

It's funny how times and perception is a mothafucka. In the 70's and 80's NY was partying like a mothafucka while cats in L.A was killing each other over rainbow colors.

"But I don't party and shake my butt, I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts"



"I don't wanna see no dancing I'm sick of that shit"

Got damn Cube, you at the party like this?:

Lighten up from time to time and have fun:

niggas wasn't killing each other in the 70s and early 80s..

and breaking came out looooooooong before house party..

oh wait.. u thought LA was all gangbangin?? lol

and nobody said NY niggas wasn't getting money and having bitches..

but them niggas u speak of was loving the fuck out of that WestCoast shit i can guarantee u that... and they damn sure wasn't playing that Jeru shit. lol

funny NY don't support they own like they do other regions seein as back then even though all the hate was commin out of NY all the albums was going IN to NY.. maybe y'all was jus buyin the shit to talk about how simple our shit was.. as well as the South. lol

Yea Kool Herc was going nuts over West coast music.

Didn't you think that if non NY albums was selling in NY that maybe NY wasn't hating as much as you think?

Edit add-on:

Did you seriously think that I thought House party invented breaking?

no, but u seriously thought we was out here not lettin loose havin a good time...

It's jokes b. You seriously thought the city that produced Harlem and the culture that spread faster than Islam wasn't doing fly shit?

L.A shorties do be in line though. Yall beat the shit outta them girls.

"Bitch what set you rep?" "Red bottom, claim you shit bitch"

 

[CapitalB]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol

Lol one of my good friend told me that same thing. Said he went to NY in the 90's for the first time and said he never seen so many hustlers in his life. He thought everybody was going to be on the train with back packs but instead saw brothas with foreign whips(always a NY thing) and bad as women from everywhere.

It's funny how times and perception is a mothafucka. In the 70's and 80's NY was partying like a mothafucka while cats in L.A was killing each other over rainbow colors.

"But I don't party and shake my butt, I leave that to the brothers with the funny haircuts"



"I don't wanna see no dancing I'm sick of that shit"

Got damn Cube, you at the party like this?:

Lighten up from time to time and have fun:

niggas wasn't killing each other in the 70s and early 80s..

and breaking came out looooooooong before house party..

oh wait.. u thought LA was all gangbangin?? lol

and nobody said NY niggas wasn't getting money and having bitches..

but them niggas u speak of was loving the fuck out of that WestCoast shit i can guarantee u that... and they damn sure wasn't playing that Jeru shit. lol

funny NY don't support they own like they do other regions seein as back then even though all the hate was commin out of NY all the albums was going IN to NY.. maybe y'all was jus buyin the shit to talk about how simple our shit was.. as well as the South. lol

Yea Kool Herc was going nuts over West coast music.

Didn't you think that if non NY albums was selling in NY that maybe NY wasn't hating as much as you think?

Edit add-on:

Did you seriously think that I thought House party invented breaking?

no, but u seriously thought we was out here not lettin loose havin a good time...

It's jokes b. You seriously thought the city that produced Harlem and the culture that spread faster than Islam wasn't doing fly shit?

L.A shorties do be in line though. Yall beat the shit outta them girls.

"Bitch what set you rep?" "Red bottom, claim you shit bitch"

shit i can't tell..

its been all jokes on my end its y'all wit the feels..

and never said NY wasn't on fly shit..

i was jus sticking to the conversation.. its u niggas that argue like females and can't stay on topic. lol

 

[hiphop12345]

Hows this for topic:

Why Dominoes or shitty Papa John pizza sell more than real NY pizza or Chicago deep dish(non east coast bias)? Because the two latter ones are too ethnic.

Hear me out, outside of Def Jam, NY hip hop never really tried to market to white people. Avoiding endorsements, doing shows at the Apollo, very few wack ass colabs, being street in real life but making party music, etc. The West(only the west outsold the East for a period in the 90's, no where else) marketed its whole gangsta prosona. Dre went from not fucking wit weed to making the Chronic. People actually thought Snoop and Cube were dangerous, etc. The Bay also didn't market to white kids and that's why The Bay never took off like L.A.

NY even in it's party scene was Black. Go watch the Bet label show on Uptown records. Listen to what Babyface said, "Andre wanted to market Ghetto extravagance, but we just wanted to market good music". That's why today if you played some New Jack Swing every Black person would go crazy and every white person would have a confused look on their face. Kinda like when Jay-z perform Streets is watching at his show today, you can immediately tell who been Jay fans vs if he perform Niggas in Paris. That's one thing I use to love about Hip Hop.

Why Reggae and Dance Hall can't do crazy numbers in the States outside of NY and now Miami. but it's huge all over the world? Well it's the same reason why the East coast acts sold more records overseas than the west, midwest and way more than the south.

Some things are just more marketable than others. Goodfellas flopped in the theaters, while Transformers do a Billy every time out..

 

[CapitalB]

not reading all that bullshit but stopped reading @NY didnt market to white people..

as if we did!!?

we touched on this earlier, maybe u shouldve been here, about how The West and South music is more authentic.. how our music is jus us bein us.. nigga we aint marketing to white people but jus like everything else wit white people they jus love our style..

if anybody is tryin to sound a certain way for whatever demographic its YOU NIGGAS.. i can see yall artists now.. go into the studio.. study the encyclopedia, retainin none of the knowledge tho but jus for the sole purpose of picking up the verbiage.. then sit there and think of things U THINK people go like or say is tight..

if anyone is playin to an audience its yall..

vs a westcoast or south nigga nigga.. who's probably fresh out some mix broad's pussy en route to the studio wit the top down smokin a blunt thinkin of how he's about to rap about his day..

if niggas feel it they feel it..

and if they dont.. its probably cause they aint fuckin bitches ..gettin money and blowin big weed. lol

 

[uncommonsense]

Wait a minute, you gonna slap me or him?

Re-read the post Brotha'.

I was shootin' the shit @hiphop12345 and he's right I wouldn't dare lay a finger on him. I tend to let my sister beat up hos then I'd bond her out after he pressed charges.

 

[uncommonsense]

It's a lot of cool NY/East coast posters on here but then you have these typical internet bias NY niggas who act like we aint been to their state.

My ace is from BK but he moved to the H back and forth in Middle school. Thank god I've been able to travel a few places and know the typical bias NY poster don't speak for all.

If I didn't know no better, I'd hate all yall, lol. AZ, Tragedy Khadafi, Mega, Styles and plenty others still in my top 20 though.

 

[hiphop12345]

not reading all that bullshit but stopped reading @NY didnt market to white people..

as if we did!!?

we touched on this earlier, maybe u shouldve been here, about how The West and South music is more authentic.. how our music is jus us bein us.. nigga we aint marketing to white people but jus like everything else wit white people they jus love our style..

if anybody is tryin to sound a certain way for whatever demographic its YOU NIGGAS.. i can see yall artists now.. go into the studio.. study the encyclopedia, retainin none of the knowledge tho but jus for the sole purpose of picking up the verbiage.. then sit there and think of things U THINK people go like or say is tight..

if anyone is playin to an audience its yall..

vs a westcoast or south nigga nigga.. who's probably fresh out some mix broad's pussy en route to the studio wit the top down smokin a blunt thinkin of how he's about to rap about his day..

if niggas feel it they feel it..

and if they dont.. its probably cause they aint fuckin bitches ..gettin money and blowin big weed. lol

It's a easy read.

White kids was eating up that gangsta shit. The labels certainly market those records to suburbia.

Let me see, what song do you think would sell better to a white kid 'Self destruction' or 'Anit nothing but a G thang'?

Also stop including the south. The south wish it did half the numbers the east did back in the 90's. I don't get how the music is more authentic when say Death Row was marketing gangsta rappers but were drinking piss and getting herbed by Suge? John Forte was more street than them guys.

UGK wasn't doing any shows in London, South Africa, etc in the 90's. They were local so the East won the international competition. Non East coast music appeal to the U.S more, and East Coast music appeal to the world more.

P.S

Blunts are from the East Coast.

 

[CapitalB]

not reading all that bullshit but stopped reading @NY didnt market to white people..

as if we did!!?

we touched on this earlier, maybe u shouldve been here, about how The West and South music is more authentic.. how our music is jus us bein us.. nigga we aint marketing to white people but jus like everything else wit white people they jus love our style..

if anybody is tryin to sound a certain way for whatever demographic its YOU NIGGAS.. i can see yall artists now.. go into the studio.. study the encyclopedia, retainin none of the knowledge tho but jus for the sole purpose of picking up the verbiage.. then sit there and think of things U THINK people go like or say is tight..

if anyone is playin to an audience its yall..

vs a westcoast or south nigga nigga.. who's probably fresh out some mix broad's pussy en route to the studio wit the top down smokin a blunt thinkin of how he's about to rap about his day..

if niggas feel it they feel it..

and if they dont.. its probably cause they aint fuckin bitches ..gettin money and blowin big weed. lol

It's a easy read.

White kids was eating up that gangsta shit. The labels certainly market those records to suburbia.

Let me see, what song do you think would sell better to a white kid 'Self destruction' or 'Anit nothing but a G thang'?

Also stop including the south. The south wish it did half the numbers the east did back in the 90's. I don't get how the music is more authentic when say Death Row was marketing gangsta rappers but were drinking piss and getting herbed by Suge? John Forte was more street than them guys.

UGK wasn't doing any shows in London, South Africa, etc in the 90's. They were local so the East won the international competition. Non East coast music appeal to the U.S more, and East Coast music appeal to the world more.

P.S

Blunts are from the East Coast.

im sure it is an easy read..

its jus that this convo has kind of ran its couese.. thay and my workweek has begun.. dont have the same energy i had the other day when i was jus chillin usin yall to help pass the day..

but now??

its back to these bitches and money. hahahahahaha

 

[hiphop12345]

It's a lot of cool NY/East coast posters on here but then you have these typical internet bias NY niggas who act like we aint been to their state.

My ace is from BK but he moved to the H back and forth in Middle school. Thank god I've been able to travel a few places and know the typical bias NY poster don't speak for all.

If I didn't know no better, I'd hate all yall, lol. AZ, Tragedy Khadafi, Mega, Styles and plenty others still in my top 20 though.

A cat from Texas talking about bias. Smh

Everywhere have it's biases.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Mafioso rap >>>>> niggas dressing like messicans

 

[BenjaminE]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

Didn't you hear? He's the east coast Too Short...

 

[NuffRespect]

Jeru the damagja was wack af but why y'all using him as some example of ny hip hop? Dude was c list

Didn't you hear? He's the east coast Too Short...

Anybody that think Jeru is wack need to wack themselves

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Sometimes I'll randomly post 1-4 bars from someone like 8ball & MJG then someone will be like "how are these bars nice?". But I posted it because it was some real shss that hit the soul

Y'all non east coasters don't apply this logical uniformally tho

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Also y'all criticize any east coast rapper that doesn't do boom bap but apparently y'all don't/never liked boom bap

Which is it?

 

[hiphop12345]

Also y'all criticize any east coast rapper that doesn't do boom bap but apparently y'all don't/never liked boom bap

Which is it?

It's like White people hating on Black people but copying the style.