Hollywood Sex Abuse Scandal Thread - Harvey , Kevin, Andy etc

[black caesar]

Next up on the Summer Jam screen:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/15/gene-simmons-sued-for-sexual-assault-interview/

Gene Simmons is being sued for allegedly groping a woman during the opening of a restaurant last month.

The lawsuit -- filed by a Jane Doe -- claims she interviewed Simmons last month at the opening of a Rock & Brews in San Bernardino. The accuser claims during the interview, Gene reached over, grabbed her hand and forcibly placed it on his knee. She says it made her feel uncomfortable, but continued the interview.

The docs claim Gene grabbed the reporter's hand, commented on how soft it was and creepily suggested she must use lotion ... things got more weird when Simmons reached over and allegedly flicked the interviewer's throat.

The defendant says following that action, she did her best to stop the interview, but Gene tried to keep going. Finally, she claims he touched her ass when everyone posed for a group photo.

We reached out to a rep for Gene ... so far, no word back.

I totally know who Gene Simmons is, and for some reason my brain kept computing Sharon Osbourne's husband and I was reminding myself to watch "The Talk" tomorrow to see her reaction.

Ozzy too trill for this though. LOL

 

[black caesar]

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Everybody thats been brought up hasn't made me think twice tho like not once idk maybe because they are white

Is this like when white people see a Blackman man get accused of something

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

These women aren't totally innocent

Ppl have to find the courage to say no...

But their actions were influenced by someone of a higher positions threatening to take something away as punishment or threatening punishment if the person does not follow instructions

What would you call that?

An ultimatum, which is still a choice. It's a shitty choice, but it's still a choice.

If my boss told me to suck his dick or I'd be fired. I'd make the choice to quit and sue his ass. That wouldn't be an easy path to take since I need the income, but I absolutely am not going to do the alternative. The same was the case for all these women. For a multitude of reasons that I'm sure they felt were right, they selected the seedier option. It's fucked up that they were put in that position in the first place, but they still made a choice.

Ok...not sure anyone is trying to dispute that

But are they not victims of circumstance if the choice is do this or loose out on work

And a lot the women who are coming forward did not take the "easy" route

You have the women who spoke out and were silenced and or ignored

Not sure what y'all are looking for

We have a long history to putting the onus on the accuser for change opposed to the ppl in power

Today the table are turning ...because that obviously hasn't been an effective approach...or I'd argue all that ethical

With all that's going on I can see why men would feel vilified. Unless the offense is clearly out of bounds or criminal, think the focus should be addressing how to make sure ppl don't abuse their power opposed to pointing the finger at one group. Really believe we are all susceptible to doing things we wouldn't do otherwise or acting immorally when in a position of power

Maybe you're mixing up what others are saying with what I'm saying. I believe some of these women may be full of shit or turning some things into what they aren't. But for the most part, I've already said they are victims. I just don't like them saying they were forced to do what they did because from what they say in their stories they weren't forced.

Exactly.

There's a difference between someone being forced to do something against their will............and someone who chooses to do something they really don't want to do, but did it anyway just to get ahead; and then regret doing it years later.

Slippery slope because they both feel as if they've been traumatized and violated, but the people who weren't forced shouldn't be viewed the same way as the people who were.

how should they be viewed?

me being forced to do something by gun point is different ...that's a given

but it is all coercion

and dismissing these instances, same as forgiving the smaller infractions, as anything but coercion helped create this culture ...where a person can rationalize placing others in these compromising positions as long as he or she can "walk away"

and it adds to a general degree of acceptance that this is just what ppl, particularly women, have to put up with... diminishing the responsibility of the person using their power to get others to do their will and placing all the onus on those without power

 

[The Lonious Monk]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/943134772712411137

Anybody look at that picture and instantly think "I believe it."

 

[Lurker6]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/943134772712411137

Anybody look at that picture and instantly think "I believe it."

They purposely find pictures like that to get reactional clicks. And if you ever call them out on it they'll feign ignorance.

 

[Broddie]

so now all white dudes look like creeps?

sounds like when my wife says all white people look like they sniff coke

Are you familiar with TJ Miller?

Not only does he look it his entire off screen demeanor screamed "CREEPO!"

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Hines said she was 17 or 18, part of an all-female hip-hop group, when Simmons, now 60, asked her to visit his office around 1983. She said she hoped to talk business, but was “pinned down” on his couch and raped.

Hines said she told Simmons “no,” but he didn’t stop. After Simmons “finished,” Hines said she ran from his office crying, and immediately told her friend what had happened. The friend encouraged Hines to tell her mother, but Hines refused, saying she worried she would be blamed.

 

[Angeles1son85]

Meryl Streep has responded to Rose McGowan's critical remarks against herself and other actresses who plan to protest sexual harassment by wearing black to this year's Golden Globes.

Her since-deleted tweet said, "Actresses, like Meryl Streep, who happily worked for The Pig Monster, are wearing black goldenglobes in a silent protest. YOUR SILENCE is THE problem. You'll accept a fake award breathlessly & affect no real chance. I despise your hypocrisy. Maybe you should all wear Marchesa.

Marchesa is a fashion line co-created by Weinstein's ex-wife, Georgina Chapman

"The Marchesa line was beneath me and I'm sorry for that," McGowan tweeted Monday afternoon. "Seeing that picture of Alyssa Milano with GC has ignited something in me that I can't quite articulate."

Streep said "It hurt to be attacked by Rose McGowan in banner headlines this weekend, but I want to let her know I did not know about Weinstein's crimes, not in the 90s when he attacked her, or through subsequent decades when he proceeded to attack others," Streep said in a statement to the HuffPost. "I wasn't deliberately silent. I didn't know. I don't tacitly approve of rape. I didn't know. I don't like young women being assaulted. I didn't know this was happening. Streep went on to clarify that not everyone who worked with Weinstein knew the depth of accusations against him.

"Rose assumed and broadcast something untrue about me, and I wanted to let her know the truth," she continued. "Through friends who know her, I got my home phone number to her the minute I read the headlines. I sat by that phone all day yesterday and this morning, hoping to express both my deep respect for her and others' bravery in exposing the monsters among us, and my sympathy for the untold, ongoing pain she suffers. No one can bring back what entitled bosses like Bill O'Reilly, Roger Ailes, and HW took from the women who endured attacks on their bodies and their ability to make a living.. And I hoped that she would give me a hearing. She did not, but I hope she reads this."

 

[Angeles1son85]

the comments are goin hard at streep

She did call Harvey a god though, that was wierd.

This denial is to be expected. She wants to be on the right side of events. Another fine performance!

Are we all going to ridicule her statement because “everybody knew”, the way we did when Matt Damon and George Clooney said the EXACT SAME THING? Or is it somehow different because it’s Meryl?

She's a fraud. She sure as hell knew all about Roman Polanski and gave the guy a standing ovation for getting an Academy Award , Despite his being accused of sexually assaulting 11 girls under the age of 17. She even publicly lamented his going to jail after being convicted.

In posters that appeared in several locations in Los Angeles on Tuesday, Meryl Streep was seemingly depicted as a Harvey Weinstein enabler by anonymous street artists.

 

[313 wayz]

damn, hollywood is eating they own.....shits crazy.....all of those actresses that did films with Woody Allen and Roman Polanski can't ride the #MeToo bandwagon because they knew how both of them got down

 

[Broddie]

the comments are goin hard at streep

She did call Harvey a god though, that was wierd.

This denial is to be expected. She wants to be on the right side of events. Another fine performance!

Are we all going to ridicule her statement because “everybody knew”, the way we did when Matt Damon and George Clooney said the EXACT SAME THING? Or is it somehow different because it’s Meryl?

She's a fraud. She sure as hell knew all about Roman Polanski and gave the guy a standing ovation for getting an Academy Award , Despite his being accused of sexually assaulting 11 girls under the age of 17. She even publicly lamented his going to jail after being convicted.

In posters that appeared in several locations in Los Angeles on Tuesday, Meryl Streep was seemingly depicted as a Harvey Weinstein enabler by anonymous street artists.

Real talk she's arguably the greatest actress of her generation. Who's to say this was not another stellar performance?

I just can't believe that someone who has been hollywood royalty. Not a b lister or c lister but a goddamn permanent a list award winner since the 70s was totally clueless about all this. Especially since she and Harvey ran within a lot of the same circles.

 

[Max.]

Uh oh twitter trending bringing up the old kobe rape case with details
https://twitter.com/MarlowNYC/status/942973088513306624

 

[Broddie]

Uh oh twitter trending bringing up the old kobe rape case with details
https://twitter.com/MarlowNYC/status/942973088513306624

See this I don't agree with. He already went through all the judiciary procedures with that shit. If the law and the victim moved on people should too.

 

[Angeles1son85]

i seen that on the hollywood reporter site talking about kobe but man i think if this shit about streep goes down oprah was close with harvey too and remember while back Mo'Nique ms parker said some shit and they blackballed her from hollywood about lee daniels oprah who were backed by harvey

"I am unapologetic to what I said to Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels," she said on her podcast, addressing people in Hollywood who suggested she apologize and move forward.

Mo'Nique then cleared up why she felt animosity towards them— particularly Winfrey who she felt dismembered her family by having her brother, who sexually assaulted her, on The Oprah Winfrey Show with her parents.

"I said to that sister, 'Right now I'm really going through it, it's really bad.'... Had Oprah said to me, 'I have your mother.' I would have shut that s--t down. Because I don't want the world seeing my mother, being so greedy over money, that she's willing to do anything to go on your show."

"I shared with Oprah Winfrey that me and my mother were not on good terms," the comedian said.

A couple of days later, the Oscar winner did another standup show and addressed the podcast confession and subsequent phone call she received from Perry.

"I said, 'Yo. I want to thank you for calling because most ni--as won’t call.' Oprah and Lee ain't call yet," she shared. "Because them motherf---ers know, we gotta have a conversation. But Tyler Perry called up and when he called up he said, ‘I watched your podcast and I saw your pain.’ I said, ‘Ni--a that’s not pain. That’s called honesty. Don’t get it confused.’

 

[Already Home_17]

the comments are goin hard at streep

She did call Harvey a god though, that was wierd.

This denial is to be expected. She wants to be on the right side of events. Another fine performance!

Are we all going to ridicule her statement because “everybody knew”, the way we did when Matt Damon and George Clooney said the EXACT SAME THING? Or is it somehow different because it’s Meryl?

She's a fraud. She sure as hell knew all about Roman Polanski and gave the guy a standing ovation for getting an Academy Award , Despite his being accused of sexually assaulting 11 girls under the age of 17. She even publicly lamented his going to jail after being convicted.

In posters that appeared in several locations in Los Angeles on Tuesday, Meryl Streep was seemingly depicted as a Harvey Weinstein enabler by anonymous street artists.

Meryl, you need more people...

 

[Copper]

Who cares if streep knew?

Rose McGowan knew for a fact, got paid and never called him out for 2 decades...thus allowing other women to be abused

 

[Copper]

She said she remembers Miller “shaking me violently” and punching her in the mouth during sex, bloodying her lip and breaking a tooth

"Damn...was the pussy that bad?"

 

[fortyacres]

Meryl Streep is a living Legend couldnt give a fuck about Rose Mcgowan and if she knew.

this seems like a garbage witch hunt.

 

[deadeye]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/943134772712411137

Anybody look at that picture and instantly think "I believe it."