Hollywood Sex Abuse Scandal Thread - Harvey , Kevin, Andy etc

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The Lonious Monk;c-10147383 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10147268 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10146772 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10146767 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10144768 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10144232 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10143926 said:
blackrain;c-10143900 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10143659 said:
I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

These women aren't totally innocent

Ppl have to find the courage to say no...

But their actions were influenced by someone of a higher positions threatening to take something away as punishment or threatening punishment if the person does not follow instructions

What would you call that?

An ultimatum, which is still a choice. It's a shitty choice, but it's still a choice.

If my boss told me to suck his dick or I'd be fired. I'd make the choice to quit and sue his ass. That wouldn't be an easy path to take since I need the income, but I absolutely am not going to do the alternative. The same was the case for all these women. For a multitude of reasons that I'm sure they felt were right, they selected the seedier option. It's fucked up that they were put in that position in the first place, but they still made a choice.

Ok...not sure anyone is trying to dispute that

But are they not victims of circumstance if the choice is do this or loose out on work

And a lot the women who are coming forward did not take the "easy" route

You have the women who spoke out and were silenced and or ignored

Not sure what y'all are looking for

We have a long history to putting the onus on the accuser for change opposed to the ppl in power

Today the table are turning ...because that obviously hasn't been an effective approach...or I'd argue all that ethical

With all that's going on I can see why men would feel vilified. Unless the offense is clearly out of bounds or criminal, think the focus should be addressing how to make sure ppl don't abuse their power opposed to pointing the finger at one group. Really believe we are all susceptible to doing things we wouldn't do otherwise or acting immorally when in a position of power

Maybe you're mixing up what others are saying with what I'm saying. I believe some of these women may be full of shit or turning some things into what they aren't. But for the most part, I've already said they are victims. I just don't like them saying they were forced to do what they did because from what they say in their stories they weren't forced.

Exactly.

There's a difference between someone being forced to do something against their will............and someone who chooses to do something they really don't want to do, but did it anyway just to get ahead; and then regret doing it years later.

Slippery slope because they both feel as if they've been traumatized and violated, but the people who weren't forced shouldn't be viewed the same way as the people who were.
 
marc123;c-10147842 said:
Terry Crews really needs to stfu

Yeah, dude should've realized how this was gonna play out before he opened his mouth.

Some things are just best left unsaid.
 
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deadeye;c-10149442 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10147383 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10147268 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10146772 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10146767 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10144768 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10144232 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10143926 said:
blackrain;c-10143900 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10143659 said:
I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

These women aren't totally innocent

Ppl have to find the courage to say no...

But their actions were influenced by someone of a higher positions threatening to take something away as punishment or threatening punishment if the person does not follow instructions

What would you call that?

An ultimatum, which is still a choice. It's a shitty choice, but it's still a choice.

If my boss told me to suck his dick or I'd be fired. I'd make the choice to quit and sue his ass. That wouldn't be an easy path to take since I need the income, but I absolutely am not going to do the alternative. The same was the case for all these women. For a multitude of reasons that I'm sure they felt were right, they selected the seedier option. It's fucked up that they were put in that position in the first place, but they still made a choice.

Ok...not sure anyone is trying to dispute that

But are they not victims of circumstance if the choice is do this or loose out on work

And a lot the women who are coming forward did not take the "easy" route

You have the women who spoke out and were silenced and or ignored

Not sure what y'all are looking for

We have a long history to putting the onus on the accuser for change opposed to the ppl in power

Today the table are turning ...because that obviously hasn't been an effective approach...or I'd argue all that ethical

With all that's going on I can see why men would feel vilified. Unless the offense is clearly out of bounds or criminal, think the focus should be addressing how to make sure ppl don't abuse their power opposed to pointing the finger at one group. Really believe we are all susceptible to doing things we wouldn't do otherwise or acting immorally when in a position of power

Maybe you're mixing up what others are saying with what I'm saying. I believe some of these women may be full of shit or turning some things into what they aren't. But for the most part, I've already said they are victims. I just don't like them saying they were forced to do what they did because from what they say in their stories they weren't forced.

Exactly.

There's a difference between someone being forced to do something against their will............and someone who chooses to do something they really don't want to do, but did it anyway just to get ahead; and then regret doing it years later.

Slippery slope because they both feel as if they've been traumatized and violated, but the people who weren't forced shouldn't be viewed the same way as the people who were.

fuck all that i dont wan a go to work every day but i do lol.. the folk who werent forced sold their soul and morality for a come up... shrugs they choice they gotta live with. but once again for women accountability for choice they make dont matter. it's always someone elses fault
 
P diddy on twitter saying he will buy them

here come the celebrities who aint got 1 billion who gonna wanna be "owener" lol he on something his eyes rolling back lmao but he lost me after win superbowl after superbowl and cam gotta be like you making kap a starter wtf lol

someone comment on panthers ig

I have 6.5 billion in Bitcoin is that enough to purchse the panthers? lmao
 
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damn old past haunting mf's like old tweets

Unless I am misreading this, and unless something else comes out: two decades ago Chris Matthews rudely joked about a junior staff member, which (rightly) offended her. She complained to HR, they reprimanded him, agreed to a settlement with her and she left the position and went on to a successful career elsewhere in the media, as did Matthews. No other similar instances are known. Now, two decades later, all of this is being "reported" by a radical conservative "news" organization founded by a Fox News host, in, I assume, an attempt to hurt his "competition," the media in general, and "the left. I also assume it's being done with the knowledge of MSNBC's knee-jerk firing of Sam Seder after another right-wing troll recently spread around an old tweet in which Seder made a sarcastic joke--an action that MSNBC was forced to reverse in embarrassment. Folks, we cannot allow an issue that is finally in the forefront and so important to our society to be politically weaponized like this. It's just disgusting.

"In 1999, this matter was thoroughly reviewed and dealt with. At that time, Matthews received a formal reprimand," an MSNBC spokesperson told NBC News.

Matthews was accused of making inappropriate jokes and comments about the female staffer in front of others, NBC News reported.

The Daily Caller reported the payment was $40,000, but the MSNBC spokesperson would not confirm the amount to NBC News, citing a confidentiality agreement.

The news comes just weeks after NBC News fired Today host Matt Lauer after he was accused of sexual assault and harassment.

Matthews did not return a request for comment, according to NBC News
 
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Ghostdenithegawd;c-10148478 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10147989 said:
stringer bell;c-10147450 said:
https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845076761747457

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https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845387928727552

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or just reformat and get better anti-virus software

2stepz_ahead;c-10147989 said:
stringer bell;c-10147450 said:
https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845076761747457

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https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845387928727552

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or just reformat and get better anti-virus software

He just built his first PC he doesn't know any better he should of shut it down and took it to the cops

if he built his first PC then he had to install software after formatting the new drive he placed in it.

i am sure he used computers before he built his first new one.

but i digress..

i felt good when i made chick and dumplings with cinnabons and niggas claimed they didnt see the dumplings and the cinnabons was from the market.
 
TJ Miller always looked and carried himself like a creep tbh. One of the thrillest things Michael Bay ever did was his death scene in that one Transformers sequel that I actually tolerated enough to watch on TBS at 3 in the morning.
 
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https://www.avclub.com/t-j-miller-accused-of-physical-and-sexual-assault-in-d-1821426302

In an extensive investigative report published today by The Daily Beast, an anonymous woman has come forward with allegations of physical and sexual assault against The Emoji Movie and Silicon Valley star T.J. Miller. The alleged assault happened when the two were in college at George Washington University in the early ‘00s, when the woman says Miller physically and sexually assaulted her on multiple occasions while they were engaged in a romantic relationship. The case was eventually addressed by a student court at the university, and has reportedly been an open secret in the comedy world for years, with some sources reporting that Miller has joked about “punching a woman when he was in college” in private.

The woman’s story is quite graphic and disturbing, including descriptions of encounters where Miller hit and choked her during sex and penetrated her multiple times, once anally and once with a beer bottle, without her consent, leaving her bruised and bloody and prompting her roommates’ concern. (One recalls, “My [other] roommate was in my bedroom with me and we heard a loud smacking noise, and we were concerned… The very next day when we talked to [her] she was very upset, and… had said he had hit her in a very violent way.” Another says, “one roommate asked if she wanted to go to the police. Others offered to take her to the hospital, given how she looked.”)

Five people who were also students at GWU at the time have corroborated the woman’s story, which she brought to campus police a year later. She says, “I was not ready to process what was happening [the prior year], and I have spent a lot of time in my life apologizing for not having shouted ‘no’ ... I was not ready to reconcile the events taking place with the person I had known. It was so disorienting and so physically traumatic.” Eventually, the university told the woman that the issue “had been resolved,” and although The Daily Beast was unable to find out exactly what happened due to federal privacy laws, it was able to confirm that Miller graduated in 2003.

Miller and his wife Kate gave a joint statement to The Daily Beast denying the story, describing the woman making the accusations as jealous and unstable and themselves as the victims in the situation. “We met this woman over a decade ago while studying together in college, she attempted to break us up back then by plotting for over a year,” they say. “She was asked to leave our university comedy group because of worrisome and disturbing behavior, which angered her immensely ... and began telling people around campus, ‘I’m going to destroy them.’” The statement goes on to say, “It is unfortunate that she is choosing this route as it undermines the important movement to make women feel safe coming forward about legitimate claims against real known predators.

Asked about the statement—which was issued preemptively after Miller found out that The Daily Beast was working on a story—the woman says that she’s been living with what happened for many years, an experience made all the more traumatic by Miller’s rapidly rising celebrity, and “I don’t think it’s appropriate that I carry this by myself.” She adds, “It is unfathomable to me that he doesn’t understand that he actually put me through something I have to live with, that I never would’ve chosen ... that I actively had to spend years and years… un-programming.”

After reading that, idk what to think. Sheesh
 
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