Hollywood Sex Abuse Scandal Thread - Harvey , Kevin, Andy etc

[DarthRozay]

not surprised on gene simmons

 

[Bcotton5]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

These women aren't totally innocent

Ppl have to find the courage to say no...

But their actions were influenced by someone of a higher positions threatening to take something away as punishment or threatening punishment if the person does not follow instructions

What would you call that?

An ultimatum, which is still a choice. It's a shitty choice, but it's still a choice.

If my boss told me to suck his dick or I'd be fired. I'd make the choice to quit and sue his ass. That wouldn't be an easy path to take since I need the income, but I absolutely am not going to do the alternative. The same was the case for all these women. For a multitude of reasons that I'm sure they felt were right, they selected the seedier option. It's fucked up that they were put in that position in the first place, but they still made a choice.

But some people might take the other option, you can't blame them

 

[marc123]

Terry Crews really needs to stfu

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I have no doubt that some of these dudes did some out of line shit, but like someone said, this is basically becoming a witch hunt. At this point, dudes are being fired over allegations and nothing more. That's crazy. Any chick that has beef with a dude can accuse him of sexually harassing her, which could basically be anything and that's enough to put him in hot water.

It don't seem to be that simple in majority of these cases. Look at Matt Lauer. His firing seems quick til they came out and said they had been investigating him for months already. Alot of these networks seem to now be just doing private investigations into these claims and then going public with the info all at once. That's part of why it seems so sudden. Now the fact that all these investigations seem to be concluding at the same time is suspect and shows that they've known about these shits for a while, knew a storm was brewing, and were trying to preemptively cover their ass.

I don't know. I mean I get the feeling that everyone men and women, have known about this shit, but just accepted it. Now a few people have come out, and everyone is trying to retroactively hold people responsible for things done in the past. For egregious shit, I get that, but if there was a general culture was some things were just seen as accepted, I think it's a little fucked up to go back and hold everyone accountable. I'm fine with saying certain behavior is wrong and should cease. I just don't think its right for a chick to go along with some shit for ten years like it's cool, and then suddenly come out as a victim without ever actually calling the dude out on the wrongdoing.

Like I read about this shit with Selma Hayek and Harvey Weinstein. Basically, she wanted to do a movie and he agreed to fund it. The whole time they were making the movie, he was propositioning her. He's a piece of shit for that. However, if she never called him on it and just dealt with it, why would she have thought that he would stop. Finally, he gave her an ultimatium that either she add a naked lesbo sex scene of herself and someone else in the movie, or he'd pull funding. Again, he's a piece of shit for that, but she wasn't forced to have that scene as she claims. She chose to have it. She could have walked, but she didn't. I understand she had reasons that made it hard to do so, but doing that is taking a stand and would have been worthy of praise. I'm just having a hard time applauding these chicks for coming out of the woodwork years later to pile on after its become a movement. That said if even a tenth of the shit that is being claimed is true these dudes are wildin to an unbelievable extent.

the piling on is ppl trying to change the culture

believe the thinking is, if i come forward to speak on what happened to me in 1999 and shad light on what often happens behind the scenes with these powerful exes it may give another aspiring actor or intern who is dealing with the shit today strength/inspiration to do the same

and let's not pretend like 5 or even 10 years ago these accusations were or would have been treated as they are today

there's also the believability factor.... if a young intern comes forward with accusations against a rich and powerful man/woman often times the reaction is the accuser is "just looking for a come up", "a jilted lover", "so and so would never do that". see the pattern? ... the more women come forward it only does more to bolster the accusers claims... a woman of selma's status and stature in the industry furthers helps this cause

and you don't think the accusers who come forward years or even decades later, you think it's easy for them to do so when they see that their abuser has continue to abuse and exploit others? no one is trying to excuse her from being silent

I feel you. I'm not really condemning the piling on. I understand that it's necessary to make the changes. I just don't think they are what people are making them to be. They are doing their part, but it's not the same as taking that initial step. Anyways, like I said, I'm not bashing Salma or the others, I just don't like that they characterize what happened to them as being forced because there are people who are forced to do things they don't want and that's a different matter.

These women aren't totally innocent

Ppl have to find the courage to say no...

But their actions were influenced by someone of a higher positions threatening to take something away as punishment or threatening punishment if the person does not follow instructions

What would you call that?

An ultimatum, which is still a choice. It's a shitty choice, but it's still a choice.

If my boss told me to suck his dick or I'd be fired. I'd make the choice to quit and sue his ass. That wouldn't be an easy path to take since I need the income, but I absolutely am not going to do the alternative. The same was the case for all these women. For a multitude of reasons that I'm sure they felt were right, they selected the seedier option. It's fucked up that they were put in that position in the first place, but they still made a choice.

But some people might take the other option, you can't blame them

You do what you feel you have to do. I try not judge people in positions that I'm not. I'm just saying they should call it what it is and stop trying to exaggerate.

 

[TheGOAT]

Terry Crews really needs to stfu

What if hes tellin the truth tho

Watch him die in a mysterious car accident.

 

[Angeles1son85]

lol well damn
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/942142777747496960

 

[2stepz_ahead]

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845076761747457

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845387928727552

or just reformat and get better anti-virus software

 

[fortyacres]

lol well damn
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/942142777747496960

lol now they are fight against each other to see who is more pro-women.

this is why women will never win.

 

[TheBoyRo]

https://instagram.com/p/Bcz9PqbD9wP/

 

[marc123]

Terry Crews really needs to stfu

What if hes tellin the truth tho

Watch him die in a mysterious car accident.

well then he should call the FBI or the police. or have his lawyer deal w it. all this twitter shit aint coo imo

 

[VIBE]

Creepy Gene but not sexual harassment. Jesus.

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845076761747457

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845387928727552

or just reformat and get better anti-virus software

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845076761747457

https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/941845387928727552

or just reformat and get better anti-virus software

He just built his first PC he doesn't know any better he should of shut it down and took it to the cops

 

[marc123]

Odds are terry crews is a christian. Dude prolly thinks that the devil is in his computer smh

 

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[Angeles1son85]

Corporations acting as their own intelligence agency have been uncovered in the past 72 hours.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-12-13/hidden-world-of-private-spies

Last month, an investigation by the New Yorker magazine alleged that disgraced film producer Harvey Weinstein used private detectives from two different firms to spy on women he had allegedly sexually harassed or assaulted

Terry could very well be onto something...again.

of course they gonna try to get dirt on them but if there story is true and terrys there should be nothin to worry about

 

[blackrain]

Panthers owner Jerry Richardson selling the team after story broke about him having mutiple pay outs for sexual harassment and using racial slurs towards employees
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/942453533948989441

 

[playmaker88]

Panthers owner Jerry Richardson selling the team after story broke about him having mutiple pay outs for sexual harassment and using racial slurs towards employees
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/942453533948989441

I just saw that hes selling the team.. i read this shit earlier. Nigga "Mister" = "Master" he really was on some plantation shit..

and like i said before what makes poweful people powerful is underlings willing to take shit and do shit.. shits fucked up.. that whole bit about the NDA's.. which seem to be a pretty common occurrence in these type happenings..

 

[stringer bell]

Panthers owner Jerry Richardson selling the team after story broke about him having mutiple pay outs for sexual harassment and using racial slurs towards employees
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/942453533948989441

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...thers-owner-jerry-richardson-selling-nfl-team

The Panthers have settled with at least four former employees regarding inappropriate workplace behavior by Richardson, according to a Sports Illustrated report.

Richardson, 81, allegedly made verbal comments about women's appearances, inappropriately touched female employees and made advances to women that included asking whether he could shave their legs and for them to give him foot rubs.

 

[aneed123]

crazy

 

[KingLuciano]

niggas with deep pockets should jump all over this and buy that team!