HEBREWS "Worship not his Star ,his Symbol, his mark" (THE SO-CALLED STAR OF DAVID)

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waterproof;3408063 said:
Shaul taught that we are not under law but under grace, BLASPHEMY!!!!! Let's see what Yahushua brother JAMES say's who was the head of the church in Jersualem.

ACTS 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.



^^^^^YALL GOING TO LEARN THESE SCRIPTURES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, This from the Messiyah brothers mouth who was a hebrew who followed YAH LAWS and Commandments. And acts was written by Shaul follower luke, he is recording all of this

See John was already in Asia/Ephesus teaching the laws of YAHUWAH. Look what happen when Shaul brought that false doctrine to them.

ACTS 21:26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purifcation, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

21:27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

21:28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

21:29 (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)

21:30 And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut.


You see that Hebrews was about to beat him down for speaking against the MOST HIGH YAHUWAH and his laws, HALLEUYAH, Shaul BRINGIN THE VERY PEOPLE THAT KILLED US because we were circumised and hung hebrew baby's around the mother necks for not following the Hellenist doctrine. AND BY THAT SHAUL DIDNT NOT PASS THE TOOL that YAHUWAH gave to us to tell us is the false prophet

YOU HEBREW BROTHERS BETTER WAKE UP AND READ MACCABEE'S.

AND IN THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS THERE ARE LETTERS FROM THE JAMES that called SHAUL a spouter of lies

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paul kept thew law perfect...

PHILIPPIANS 3: 4Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

no. 2

paul taught the law, and did not teach we were udner grace or faith alone...

ROMANS 3:27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

ROMANS 6:1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.



^^ lol...it sounds like hes contradicting himself, but hes not...

just because u are a gentile or a heathen, and you dont have the law or have the means of keeping all the laws, the doesn't give u an excuse...paul taught them that they were justified by faith in christ, not law.

because those that were baptised into christ, were not baptised because they kept the law, they were baptised becaused they believed in his name.

ROMANS 4:13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, 17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were



also remember that majority of the romans and galatians paul taught were israelite foreigners that had lost their identity, paul re adopted them thru christ.

GALATIANS 4: 4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

ROMANS 9: 1I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

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paul taught people who were WITHOUT the law that they would be justified by faith, because they coudlnt convert to do the whole law, he did'nt teach people who already had the law to stop keeping it.

GALATIANS 3: 10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

GALATIANS 5: 2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

ROAMANS 2: 12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

5For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 
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This is what Shaul say's

2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles. who appointed Shaul these things and who called him an apostle. For yall who supposed to know the book, nobody called Shaul and Apostle but himself and his disciples Luke, Barnabas.

AND THIS IS WHAT PETER SAID, because Peter didnt beleive in what Shaul said.

Acts 15 :7 And when there had been much disputing, Kepha rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago YHWH made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Shaul said that he was made an apostle by YAHUSHUA because he seen him ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS.

ACTS 9 :3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.



YAHUSHUA say's MATTHEW 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Messiah, or there; believe it not.

24:24 For there shall arise false messiahs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.



But wait Shaul say's Acts 9 :4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Master, what wilt thou have me to do? And Yahushua said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.


BUT WAIT SHAUL SAID THIS ACTS22 :6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Master? And he said unto me, I am Yahushua of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.


WOW and this is the guy you put your trust into, who cant kept his story straight, THIS IS SOME SERIOUS STUFF. WHAT'S THE TRUTH!!

YALL GOING TO LEARN THESE SCRIPTURES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
 
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One Spliff;3409460 said:
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paul kept thew law perfect...

PHILIPPIANS 3: 4Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

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paul taught the law, and did not teach we were udner grace or faith alone...

ROMANS 3:27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

ROMANS 6:1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.



^^ lol...it sounds like hes contradicting himself, but hes not...

just because u are a gentile or a heathen, and you dont have the law or have the means of keeping all the laws, the doesn't give u an excuse...paul taught them that they were justified by faith in christ, not law.

because those that were baptised into christ, were not baptised because they kept the law, they were baptised becaused they believed in his name.

ROMANS 4:13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, 17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were



also remember that majority of the romans and galatians paul taught were israelite foreigners that had lost their identity, paul re adopted them thru christ.

GALATIANS 4: 4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

ROMANS 9: 1I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

no. 3

paul taught people who were WITHOUT the law that they would be justified by faith, because they coudlnt convert to do the whole law, he did'nt teach people who already had the law to stop keeping it.

GALATIANS 3: 10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

GALATIANS 5: 2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

ROAMANS 2: 12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

5For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Bruh you saying the same thing i said for months now, Shaul knows the law. His letters is his opinions it came into the book 40 years after messiyah walked this earth. You have to know the man to get the understanding. I said he got some gems in his writing, but it dont take away from the fact that he WENT AGAINST THE LAWS OF THE MOST HIGH.

We you think the Hebrew wanted to kill the guy in Asia, he put heathen/gentile doctrine in with the hebrew law.

Show me where the Angels gave the LAW.
 
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waterproof;3408790 said:
And yall want me to follow a guy who taught that Angels gave The Hebrews The Law. YAHUWAH gave The Laws not the Angels.

This is what SHAUL says

Galatians 3 :19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^SAY WHAT?!!!!! that's why yall follow the heathen's doctrine, he told them that the Law came from the Angels not the Most High so yall dont have to follow them. YALL GOING TO LEARN THESE SCRIPTURES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

Acts 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.


wait didn't MOSES receive the Law from YAHUWAH, where did this come from.

Hebrews 2 :2 For if the word spoken by angels was steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward;



SAY WHAT??^^^^^ Yall want that truth, yall going to get that truth.

GROWN ASS MAN'S CRYING, waterproof teaches that Paul is a false prophet... No Paul teaches that Paul is a false prophet for going against the Most High, by teaching that Angles give Hebrew the Law.

By teaching against Most High Laws, statues and commandments, by teaching that man with long hair is a sin, when YAHUSHUA, JOHN THE BAPTIST, SAMPSON and the Hebrew Nazareen's have long hair, by tellin women to shut up in church and have their head covered, that's the heathen doctirne. For women always had a voice, DO we got the Book of Ruth?? Was Mary Magadlene apart of the church

I can go on and on and i will

pauls letters clearly went over your head...

the angel of the covenant was christ, christ is the one who gave the law, accompanied by angels..

thats why christ said that he was "lord of the sabbath"

paula never said long hair is a sin, he said it was a shame.

and he taught women to be in subjection which was lawful...

1 CORINTHIANS 14:34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

you realise its a law that if a woman made a vow to the most high, that her husband had the right to break that vow ?...if the husband didnt approve, then he would not honour her vow...thats shows you the pecking order in THE LAW OF MOSES.

and btw paul wasn't even speaking in ACTS the 7th chapter, that was stephen, lol.

come on bruh.
 
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WHAT DO THE BOOK HAVE TO SAY ABOUT WHO ARE THE APOSTLES.

Matthew 10 :1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Kepha, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;

10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.


^^^^These are the 12 Apostle who walked with Yahushua the Messiyah, Judas betrayed the Messiyah like some of these niggas in the world, so WHO REPLACED JUDAS.

ACTS 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Master Yahushua went in and out among us,

1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.

1:23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, YHWH, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,

1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.


YALL NIGGAS GONNA LEARN THERE IS ONLY 12 APOSTLE'S NOT 13, yall want more truth.

Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

KEEP ON DOIN WHAT YALL DOIN, YALL GONNA LEARN THESE SCRIPTURES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
 
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waterproof;3409782 said:
Show me where the Angels gave the LAW.

PSALM 68: 17The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

^^ where was the LAW GIVEN ???

come on man...this is bible 101.
 
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One Spliff;3409842 said:
pauls letters clearly went over your head...

the angel of the covenant was christ, christ is the one who gave the law, accompanied by angels..

thats why christ said that he was "lord of the sabbath"

paula never said long hair is a sin, he said it was a shame.

and he taught women to be in subjection which was lawful...

1 CORINTHIANS 14:34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

you realise its a law that if a woman made a vow to the most high, that her husband had the right to break that vow ?...if the husband didnt approve, then he would not honour her vow...thats shows you the pecking order in THE LAW OF MOSES.

and btw paul wasn't even speaking in ACTS the 7th chapter, that was stephen, lol.

come on bruh.

come on now you reaching bruh, show me where the Messiyah gave the law accompanied by angels. And show me in scripture where The Father or any one else called him the angel of the convenant.

He's the Son of Man and Man is not Angels the scripture makes that clear
 
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One Spliff;3409915 said:
PSALM 68: 17The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

^^ where was the LAW GIVEN ???

come on man...this is bible 101.

REALLY, you really going to do that, you know damn well THE ANGELS didnt GAVE MAN the Law, MOSES received the Law from the Mouth of YAHUWAH. you know better than that.

now that's bible 101
 
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waterproof;3409965 said:
REALLY, you really going to do that, you know damn well THE ANGELS didnt GAVE MAN the Law, MOSES received the Law from the Mouth of YAHUWAH. you know better than that.

now that's bible 101

exodus 14:19And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

who or what was the pillar of cloud ?

it clearly tells u it was an angel.

EXODUS 24: 15And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount. 16And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 17And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel. 18And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

who was inside the cloud ?
 
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One Spliff;3409995 said:
exodus 14:19And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

who or what was the pillar of cloud ?

it clearly tells u it was an angel.

EXODUS 24: 15And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount. 16And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 17And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel. 18And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

who was inside the cloud ?

Come on now bruh Exodus 20:22 And YHWH said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

BY YAHUWAH MOUTH he gave MOSES THE COMMANDMENTS/THE LAWS
 
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waterproof;3410128 said:
Come on now bruh Exodus 20:22 And YHWH said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

BY YAHUWAH MOUTH he gave MOSES THE COMMANDMENTS/THE LAWS

he spoke face to face with him i know...

but it was christ and the angels not actually the most high...

the most high does'nt do a damn thing man, his angels do everything on his behalf, christ was that angel that appeared to moses in the burning bush...the most high is a spirit, the created, his first born was christ who sits at the right hand side, the high preist...christ is the right arm of the most high...

learn the scriptures.

ISAIAH 63: 11Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?

12That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name?

ISAIAH 48: 13Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.


christ and the angels created the heaven and earth, not YHWH...read it in genesis, it says the ELOHIM created the heaven n earth.

JOHN 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 1


christ made the world...not the most high, so what makes u think he gave the laws to moses ?...use your brain.

MALACHI 3: 1Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

MATTHEW 11: 10For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:



the messenger was john the baptist, the messenger of the covenant is christ...that prooves christ GAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...along with the other angels with him.

u cant deny this bruh.

therefore paul didn't say a damn thing wrong.
 
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One Spliff;3410226 said:
he spoke face to face with him i know...

but it was christ and the angels not actually the most high...

the most high does'nt do a damn thing man, his angels do everything on his behalf, christ was that angel that appeared to moses in the burning bush...the most high is a spirit, the created, his first born was christ who sits at the right hand side, the high preist...christ is the right arm of the most high...

learn the scriptures.

ISAIAH 63: 11Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?
12That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name?

ISAIAH 48: 13Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.


christ and the angels created the heaven and earth, not YHWH...read it in genesis, it says the ELOHIM created the heaven n earth.

JOHN 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 1


christ made the world...not the most high, so what makes u think he gave the laws to moses ?...use your brain.

MALACHI 3: 1Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

MATTHEW 11: 10For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:


the messenger was john the baptist, the messenger of the covenant is christ...that prooves christ GAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...along with the other angels with him.

u cant deny this bruh.

therefore paul didn't say a damn thing wrong.

Alright LOL, that why i like you One Spliff we getting off topic, and about the Genesis 1, i already know that the elohim created MAN AND WOMEN, but see you have to look deeper, those elohims that created man and women in gensis 1 didnt have the spirit of yahuwah and those man and women who was on earth didnt have his spirit. SO it wasnt YAHUSHUA OR yahuwah. for in Chapter 2 YAHUWAH gave ADAM his SPIRIT. And we came from ADAM, GET THAT UNDERSTANDING BROTHER. it's deep but im not going to touch on that, THAT'S ANOTHER DAY AND TIMES.

YOU GOT TO GET THAT UNDERSTANDING, WHO is known for centuries for not having souls, GET THAT UNDERSTANDING. Because remember when Noah was born Enoch thought he was a child of the fallen angels, but it was because he was an ALBINO, so if they thought he was a child of the fallen angels then that let you know what the children of the angles looked like and it wasnt black.

But let's keep it on Shul, for one YAHUWAH IS NOT YAHUSHUA that's where you going. YAHUWAH CREATED ADAM, YAHUWAH GAVE MOSES THE LAWS, IT'S IN THE SCRIPTURE!! YOU IS TAKING THE GLORY FROM YAHUWAH and i dont agree with you on that.

i got the understanding

And the Messanger is JOHN THE BAPTIST he came to make way for YAHUWAH THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMANDMENTS
 
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waterproof;3410404 said:
Alright LOL, that why i like you One Spliff we getting off topic, and about the Genesis 1, i already know that the elohim created MAN AND WOMEN, but see you have to look deeper, those elohims that created man and women in gensis 1 didnt have the spirit of yahuwah and those man and women who was on earth didnt have his spirit. SO it wasnt YAHUSHUA OR yahuwah. for in Chapter 2 YAHUWAH gave ADAM his SPIRIT. And we came from ADAM, GET THAT UNDERSTANDING BROTHER. it's deep but im not going to touch on that, THAT'S ANOTHER DAY AND TIMES.

YOU GOT TO GET THAT UNDERSTANDING, WHO is known for centuries for not having souls, GET THAT UNDERSTANDING. Because remember when Noah was born Enoch thought he was a child of the fallen angels, but it was because he was an ALBINO, so if they thought he was a child of the fallen angels then that let you know what the children of the angles looked like and it wasnt black.

But let's keep it on Shul, for one YAHUWAH IS NOT YAHUSHUA that's where you going. YAHUWAH CREATED ADAM, YAHUWAH GAVE MOSES THE LAWS, IT'S IN THE SCRIPTURE!! YOU IS TAKING THE GLORY FROM YAHUWAH and i dont agree with you on that.

i got the understanding

u got that from the bock of enoch, lol

u sound like u mixing this annunaki fallen angel shit in wid tha scriptures...not sure what to make of it.

so fallen angels created humans ? or inter-bred with them ?...what happened ?...are u saying white people are the seed of the fallen angels ?...

what does the story of adam n even n cain n abel represent ?

n i never said christ was the most high.

all i asked is who is the messenger of the coveneant...which u ignored.
 
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NOW BACK TO THE SHAUL did the Apostle's try to warn THE HEBREW ABOUT SHAUL.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the AntiMessiah is coming, even now many antiMessiahs have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.


WHO LEFT THE 12 Apostle's? and did shaul have a dispute with them. And from this scripture and through out his writings he always talk down on Those who knew and walk with christ but only speak highly of himself.

Galatians 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: YHWH accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:

2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the evangel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the evangel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the favour that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

2:10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the glad tidings, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Now these are the ones who kept YAH LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS AND WHO WALKED WITH YAHUSHUA, AND SHAUL IS THE ONE WHO CHANGED HIS SO-CALLED VISON 3 TIMES
 
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One Spliff;3410482 said:
u got that from the bock of enoch, lol

u sound like u mixing this annunaki fallen angel shit in wid tha scriptures...not sure what to make of it.

so fallen angels created humans ? or inter-bred with them ?...what happened ?...are u saying white people are the seed of the fallen angels ?...

what does the story of adam n even n cain n abel represent ?

n i never said christ was the most high.

all i asked is who is the messenger of the coveneant...which u ignored.

Im saying this since you canT understand.

Genesis 1:27 So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them

Genesis 2 2:7 And YHWH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

2:8 And YHWH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.


Now get some understanding what is the difference from Genesis 1 and 2? Yahuwah only give his spirit to man that he created in GENESIS 2.. Now you can study and pray on that.

BECAUSE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH YOU SAID IN GENESIS 1 THAT YAHUSHUA and THE ANGLES CREATED MAN, it seems like their was 2 creations.

now im not going to touch on this today. we talking about SHAUL and im hitting with FACTS, so lets discuss about Shaul because i dont see you say anything about his stories changing and he calling himself apoSTLE.

oh yeah i said that Enoch thought Noah looked like the child of fallen angels from Enoch because of his skin color, he was an Albino.

I expect better from you but it seems like the defense mechanism is kicking in
 
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waterproof;3410740 said:
Im saying this since you canT understand.

Genesis 1:27 So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them

Genesis 2 2:7 And YHWH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

2:8 And YHWH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.


Now get some understanding what is the difference from Genesis 1 and 2? Yahuwah only give his spirit to man that he created in GENESIS 2.. Now you can study and pray on that.

BECAUSE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH YOU SAID IN GENESIS 1 THAT YAHUSHUA and THE ANGLES CREATED MAN, it seems like their was 2 creations.

now im not going to touch on this today. we talking about SHAUL and im hitting with FACTS, so lets discuss about Shaul because i dont see you say anything about his stories changing and he calling himself apoSTLE.

oh yeah i said that Enoch thought Noah looked like the child of fallen angels from Enoch because of his skin color, he was an Albino.

I expect better from you but it seems like the defense mechanism is kicking in

you're a dumbass lol.

this debate is going nowhere, i already showed u my argument on paul, and i prooved christ was the messenger of the covenenat.

so whats there left to debate ?

n i said christ made heaven n earth to proove that he was the one creating and doing the works of the most high from the beginning...your the one who randomly started speaking about fallen angels and noah being albino lmao...

u jumpin all ova tha place.

and please explain to me how paul changed his story 3 times, wtf u talkin about...n explain to me why peter gave paul props lol...u are becoming a joke.
 
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SO WE SEE HOW THROUGH OUT ALL HIS LETTERS HE DISRESPECTED THE DISCIPLES OF THE MOST HIGH, LET'S SEE HOW HE THANK ABOUT HIMSELF, is this Christ like

2 Corinthians 11:5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles

Look what he said about himself

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the assembly of Elohim.

2 Corinthians 12:16 But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.

^^^^^^^^^That's not Christ like

Romans 3:7 For if the truth of YHWH hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Well Shaul let's see what the scripture says about that^^^

Jeremiah 48 :10 Cursed be he that doeth the work of YHWH deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

Psalm 101:7 He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight.
 
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One Spliff;3410832 said:
you're a dumbass lol.

this debate is going nowhere, i already showed u my argument on paul, and i prooved christ was the messenger of the covenenat.

so whats there left to debate ?

n i said christ made heaven n earth to proove that he was the one creating and doing the works of the most high from the beginning...your the one who randomly started speaking about fallen angels and noah being albino lmao...

u jumpin all ova tha place.

and please explain to me how paul changed his story 3 times, wtf u talkin about...n explain to me why peter gave paul props lol...u are becoming a joke.

YOU DONT KNOW WHERE SHAUL CHANGED HIS STORY 3 TIMES, I THOUGHT YOU KNEW SCRIPTURE

Shaul said that he was made an apostle by YAHUSHUA because he seen him ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS.

ACTS 9 :3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


YAHUSHUA say's MATTHEW 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Messiah, or there; believe it not.

24:24 For there shall arise false messiahs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

But wait Shaul say's Acts 9 :4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Master, what wilt thou have me to do? And Yahushua said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.


BUT WAIT SHAUL SAID THIS ACTS22 :6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Master? And he said unto me, I am Yahushua of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.



SO WHAT WAS IT, DID HE SEEN YAHUWAH IN PERSON OR WAS IT A VOICE, DID THE OTHERS HEARD YAHUWAH VOICE OR THEY DIDNT HEAR THE VOICE.

YOU TELL ME
 
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YOU DONT KNOW WHERE SHAUL CHANGED HIS STORY 3 TIMES, I THOUGHT YOU KNEW SCRIPTURE

Shaul said that he was made an apostle by YAHUSHUA because he seen him ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS.

ACTS 9 :3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.



YAHUSHUA say's MATTHEW 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Messiah, or there; believe it not.

24:24 For there shall arise false messiahs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

But wait Shaul say's Acts 9 :4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Master, what wilt thou have me to do? And Yahushua said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.



BUT WAIT SHAUL SAID THIS ACTS22 :6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Master? And he said unto me, I am Yahushua of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.



SO WHAT WAS IT, DID HE SEEN YAHUWAH IN PERSON OR WAS IT A VOICE, DID THE OTHERS HEARD YAHUWAH VOICE OR THEY DIDNT HEAR THE VOICE.

YOU TELL ME

wtf ?...its exact same stroy 3 times..

n why r u quoting 2 corinthians 12 ?...paul was explain an outer body expierience in which he was given great revelations, but christ humbled him and paul confessed to boasting that he was not inferior to the other apostles because of it and because of the works he ahd done, but he was saying it in cheek.

then he went on to speak about the church in corinth, thats where he mentioned guile.

1 corinthians 15, pauls said he was elast fo the apsotle...so how does that support ur case.

please stop.
 
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One Spliff;3411125 said:
wtf ?...its exact same stroy 3 times..

n why r u quoting 2 corinthians 12 ?...paul was explain an outer body expierience in which he was given great revelations, but christ humbled him and paul confessed to boasting that he was not inferior to the other apostles because of it and because of the works he ahd done, but he was saying it in cheek.

then he went on to speak about the church in corinth, thats where he mentioned guile.

1 corinthians 15, pauls said he was elast fo the apsotle...so how does that support ur case.

please stop.

STAY ON TOPIC, WTF are you talking about, you asked to show you where shaul changed his vision with christ, 1) He said that he seen Christ, then he said he heard christ.

then he said that people with him heard christ then he said they didnt, nobody said Corinthanins stay on topic. Here it is again.

Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, master? And He said, I am Yahushua whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Master, what wilt thou have me to do? And Yahushua said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.


then he says' this

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Master? And he said unto me, I am Yahushua of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me
.

then he said this

ACTS 26:12 Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests,

26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


so what is it, he said he was by himself then he had people with him, THEN HE SAID THEY HEARD THE VOICE THEN HE SAID THEY DIDNT. HE CHANGED IT 3 TIMES.

NOW STAY ON TOPIC AND HIS ANSWER THIS
 
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