HEBREWS "Worship not his Star ,his Symbol, his mark" (THE SO-CALLED STAR OF DAVID)

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waterproof;3336445 said:
"Worship not his Star ,his Symbol, his mark"

The Star ( or Shield ) Of David is no where Mentioned in Biblical Scriptures as a Sign or Symbol for Yisrayl.

It Has { and come from } pagan origins

The so-called " star of David " is actually the six pointed star of the god Remphan and it is associated, with the worship of the system of Baal and Ashtoreth or Moloch

This is forbidden symbol, The 6-pointed star is not a Hebrew symbol

Strong's Concordance

The Greek word for "mark" is charagma. Strong's Concordance defines this word as a mark that is stamped, branded, imprinted or engraved on the individual's forehead or hand, rather than implanted in the skin.

5480 charagma {khar'-ag-mah} from the same as 5482; TDNT - 9:416,1308; n n

AV - mark 8, graven 1; 9

1) a stamp, an imprinted mark

1a) of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist

1b) the mark branded upon horses

2) thing carved, sculpture, graven work

2a) of idolatrous images

Kenite: Hebrew word #7017 Qeyniy (kay-nee'); or Qiyniy (1st Chron. 2:55) (kee-nee'); patronymic from Hebrew word #7014 (see below); a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin: (as to Heb. kayin, smith, and Heb. Tuwbal Qayin, too-bal' kay'-yin, offspring of Cain, Tubal-Kajin, Tubal-cain, but specified as one of the ten cities in Josh. 15:57), thus leading to a Kenite), one source calls them by Heb. ha-qeni, smith) perhaps the same as those doomed by the prophecy of Balaam (Num. 24:21-22).


The Kenites who are descended from Cain wore also "the mark of the Tau Cross", the letter of Saturn, on their Foreheads. Now ,Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star.

From Wikipedia,

Remphan, the King James Version of the Bible's rendering of the Greek word variously appearing in Acts 7 verse 43 as Ρομφα, Ρεμφαμ, Ραιφαν, and Ρεφαν. It is part of a quotation from Amos 5 verse 26 where the Septuagint's reading raiphan or rephan stands the Hebrew Chuin or Kewan. The Greek forms are probably simple mistakes for the Hebrew, k (qoppa) having been replaced by r (resh) and ph substituted for v (yod). Kewan is probably the Old Babylonian Kayawanu, the planet Saturn,

The star of your god Remphan " is "The six-pointed star"

The prophet Amos denounces the trueHebrews who had fallen into this idolatry practice in (Amos 5:21-27) . This is the same star of Rempham of which St. Stephen accused " The high priests , the Saducees and scribes , Pharisees " of worshiping and , using this symbol , in their temples and synagogues.

Acts 7:43 - Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

The Magen David/Star of David/Seal of Solomon/Hexagram is NOT of HEBREW origin, instead it's finds its origin in pagan idolatry towards Ashtoreth which was adopted by Yisrayl king Solomon in defiance of YHVH Commandments. The Star Symbol has abundant ties to Astarte and other false gods. Astarte means "star".

The hexagram,or "Seal of Solomon" was accepted as occult by the occult world.

King Solomon adopted the hexagram when he fell into idolatry.

The Star Symbol became utilize in the sixteenth century and was used on a coat of arms by the banking family of Rothschild. The so-called “Star of David” gained popularity as a symbol of Judaism when it was adopted as the emblem of the Zionist movement in 1897 ,and became the emblem of the Israeli flag.

waterproof;3336481 said:
The hexagram has the code for the Beast of Revelation in it ,6 sides clockwise, 6 counter-clockwise, and 6 sides that form a hexagon in the middle of the figue.

Six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and in its interior forms a six sided hexagon. The number six represents imperfection in the Biblical Scriptures , as opposed to Seven ,which represents, the fullness of YHVH and His creation.

The Seal of Solomon is a graphical representation of the number of the Beast, and a man like King Solomon {A King in Yisrayl} AND {the material wealth that he gained through his wisdom} number will have the meaning of SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX:

“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX. ”(Rev. 13:18)

“Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX talents of gold...” (1 Kings 10:14)


2Ch 9:13Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred and threescore and six talents of gold;

These are the only places in the King James Bible {besides Rev 13:18} where the phrase ``six hundred and threescore and six'' appears. Now this is wisdom.

The recently established Sanhedrin council. The group consists of 71 prominent rabbis and considers itself the highest ruling religious authority in the land of Israel. The Sanhedrin reformed on the 13th of October, 2004, for the first time in over 1600 years. They announced in 2005 that one of the tasks they are employed in is locating the exact site on which Herod's Temple once stood. They have also set themselves the task of choosing the modern state of Israel's first king.

The Encyclopedia Judaica says " of the six-pointed star (which they call the hexagram) that two Cablists, Isaiah, the son of Joel Ba'al Shem and Abraham Hayyim Kotten, testify that the symbol sprang up in kabbalistic circles where the 'Shield of David' became the 'Shield of the son of David,' the Messiah."

The ancient Sanhedrin believed that King Solomon was the Messiah rather than a "type of role" of the "anointed" one. Today, this same false belief will lead many of the " so called Jews" to receive the AntiMessiah as the reincarnation of Solomon. The counterfeiting of Solomon has been masterminded by the Kenites and will be carried off by the False Messiah.

This [so called] modern state of Israel King will be none other than that "Man Of Sin" the biblical Scriptures warns about "Worship not his Star ,his Symbol, his mark" . Any Man who claims to be The Messiah, and can't ,back it up ,by the Biblical Scriptures ,is a Liar. The True Hebrew Messiah already Came and will Return . Only Fools would try to "pick a man" among themselves ,to save them . "Pick your savior" don't reject YHVH , Anointed One

waterproof;3336595 said:
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called elohim, or that is worshipped; so that he as elohim sitteth in the temple of elohim, shewing himself that he is elohim.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Yahushua is the Messiah? He is antiMessiah who denies the Father and the Son.

I hope evrybody is having a bless sabbath, and this thread is about Hebrew brothers and sisters following the heathens rocking the star of david
 
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The Star of David or "Magen David " did not originate with the Hebrew people.The Star Symbol has abundant ties to Astarte and other false gods. Astarte means "star". The hexagram,or "Seal of Solomon" was accepted as occult by the occult world. King Solomon adopted the hexagram when he fell into idolatry.

^^^^^^^^^SEE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, King Solomon if you read the Torah was following the heathens God's at that time, that star is of the heathens.

The Star {hexagram} has the code for the Beast of Revelation in it ,6 sides clockwise, 6 counter-clockwise, and 6 sides that form a hexagon in the middle of the figue.

Six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and in its interior forms a six sided hexagon. The number six represents imperfection in the Biblical Scriptures , as opposed to Seven ,which represents, the fullness of Yahweh and His creation

" The star of your god Remphan " is "The six-pointed star"

From Wikipedia,

Remphan, the King James Version of the Bible's rendering of the Greek word variously appearing in Acts 7 verse 43 as Ρομφα, Ρεμφαμ, Ραιφαν, and Ρεφαν. It is part of a quotation from Amos 5 verse 26 where the Septuagint's reading raiphan or rephan stands the Hebrew Chuin or Kewan. The Greek forms are probably simple mistakes for the Hebrew, k (qoppa) having been replaced by r (resh) and ph substituted for v (yod). Kewan is probably the Old Babylonian Kayawanu, the planet Saturn.
 
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The prophet Amos denounces the Hebrews who had fallen into this idolatry practice in (Amos 5:21-27) . This is the same star of Rempham of which St. Stephen accused " The high priests , the Saducees and scribes , Pharisees " of worshiping and , using this symbol , in their temples and synagogues.

This Symbol Again ,entered The Hebrew People from the KENITES
 
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judah7;3340108 said:
something to think about IF u come in the volume of the book.

James 2:10

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

YO DEVIL 1ST OF ALL i dont respect you as a man or a hebrew because Hebrew you not and you know nothing about the scriptures IF YOU AINT YAHSHUA then you ain't perfect, there is only One Man that kept all the laws, statues and ordiance everyday with out sinning is THE MESSIYAH YAHUSHUA ben YOSEF. That is something to strive for so no im not perfect that's why the messiyah came to show us how to live by the laws and if you do sin or forget THEN repent, to live and learn. And when a pure heart YAHUWAH forgives.

And you Devil you just like your other alias you dont know shit, and quote the scripture so you can twist the meanings the Most High is going to deal with you in his own way, the way he see's fit.

For to the Hebrews Brothers and sisters James 2 is from James the brother of the Messiyah Yahushua and the 5 chapter deals with Following the law but you judge other people because of their social order, and acting like you follow the law but you have no works.

Now back to the devil Pharisee's 6, I got question devil. You say you preach in the streets of Chicago (we all know he's a fake lying alias devil) how in the hell you preaching in the streets and you dont know the scriptures what you speak, you are a lying confuse serpent. who ever listen to you, you led them to hell on eath for you dont know what you speak.

This is what the people will get from you.

"Some people say that Jesus is not the true name but then its many other names people can't even agree on and they come out with a new one almost every month. I would rather use the name thats already been recorded in the Holy Bible. I don't see any scriptures that told us to look for an alternate name. But the scripture below says that the name of God will be great among the gentiles. The name that the gentiles use is Jesus."

only brought up the name because many people say that we should not use the name Jesus. But I agree that as long as we are referring to the same person then I don't know how it makes a difference. But I would rather use the name recorded in the Holy Bible than to try to research into an alternate name.

Well according to the Bible there is only ONE God who is first and Last. In the Old Testament God says he is the first and last. In the New Testament Jesus says he is the first and last. So wouldnt that mean that Jesus would have to be the same God that spoke in the Old Testament?
Then this niggas changed to this

shalam in order for this scripture below to be true the only way we can tell if someone is serving God is if they are keeping the laws of the Old Testament. According to the New Testament the just shall live by faith... How can we discern who is serving God if anybody can have faith? But we can tell who is serving God if we SEE that they are keeping the laws of the Old Testament.

then the nigga said this

The Old Testament is Hebrew scriptures... THe New Testament is Christian scriptures that the Most High YHWH warned us about in this scripture below. The Old Testament is one book and close to the END of that book God warns us that people will make additional books such as the New Testament. These Hebrew Christians FAIL to see the simple truth in YHWH. Now God YHWH constantly stresses that NOBODY is next to him as well. THey continue to ignore YHWH and believe that Jesus is next to God even tho YHWH says NOBODY is beside himself.
but then again the nigga changed

The New Testament speaks of Liberty in CHrist... CHrist told you to take up his YOKE which is New Testament Commandments NOT Old Testament commandments. You brake the 1ST commandment of the law already so you need to sit down and STUDY you rebellious hard headed fool.

^^^didnt this devil just said earlier that you will know who follows the father by the person who follow the commandments of the old testament, what changed devil

then the nigga said that jesus is YAHUWAH

Funny how waterproof believes that Jesus is not YHWH but he still believes in Jesus and the New Testament although YHWH does not recognize anyone but himself as Creator.

So then since Jesus is not YHWH how do you explain the scripture below of YHWH saying he created the world ALONE and not with Jesus?
THEN THE NIGGA SAID THIS

show me a scripture of YHWH saying his son name is Jesus or Yahoshua?

^^^WOW if you preachin in the streets, you is the devil for leading his Sheep astray (the lost sheep of Israel) YAHUWAH is going to deal with you.

this is what he say against false preachers leading his people astray like you doing on the streets like your post shows.

Jeremiah 23 :1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith YHWH.

23:2 Therefore thus saith YHWH Elohim of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith YHWH.


You going to be dealt with by YAHUWAH, you are driving his sheep away with your lies and false teaching, you dont even know the scriptures and you preachin in the streets, you leading the sheep somewhere else. YOU DONE MESSED UP, YOU DONE LIED TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE APPLE OF HIS EYE. I would not want to be you, you better REPENT BOY!!
 
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One Spliff;3338288 said:
what is yom rishon and when does it begin ?...what dictates it ?

im asking genuine questions here...

if i was to keep the next sabbath, what day would it be ?

its an unbroken chain, according to when aviv came in this yearthe seventh day started sundown earlier.
 
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judah7;3340672 said:
as i have stated before IF you come in the volume of the book as u claim then you better understand the book becuz u going off as others have told me. I can understand you keeping 613 laws if you are a Torah ONLY Israelite but this is the first time I came across someone that believes in the New Testament yet they dont comprehend the Gospel of Christ and what he taught. If you believe you are justified by the law then according to the scripture Christ is not dealing with you. U need to get the Bible & humble yourself because u all over the place, study, and pray becuz you playing with fire by twisting and corrupting the word of the Most High. You no different than any of the pharisees sitting in the seat of Moses that Christ was against. U seem very confused and unlearned I recommend prayer... shalam

Galatians 3:10-14
10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Galatians 3:23-29
23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 10:1-5
1Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

5For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light

Galatians 5:1-6
1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

lol look at this devil, this devil never once mention 613 laws or the pharisee's until i start calling him a pharisee and until judahxulu mention the the 613 laws, devil you dont know nothing about scripture, i got your quotes boy and you is going to deal with the most high for speaking falsehood to his sheep while you acting like you know what you talking about.

Dont let me drop your PM's how you was coppin pleas and admitting you didnt know what you were talking about and got things wrong until you went back to the torah, and you suppose to be preachin in the streets, you is damned you fool.

Since you know so much about the pharisee's you are they and were they at today, where are they from. that's what i thought just like a devil, not knowing nothing about Shaul or paul and you stay quoting him. I already expose your lies heathen.

and rapluva, lol, no comment on that guy, lol.............he's getting there.
 
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judah7;3340862 said:
it makes no since for u to call me a pharisees when the pharisees were siting in Moses seat just like u...

Matthew 23:1-8
1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Again this devil never mention pharisee's until i mention it, speak what you know. TELL US SINCE YOU KNOW SCRIPTURE WHO ARE THE PHARISEE'S AND THE SCRIBE'S where are they from and and what is the scripture about you quote, why YAHUSHUA told the multuide to beware of the pharisee's

answers us this questions, since you well versed, how am i sitting in moses seat and are the pharisee's are here today if so were are they at.

you know so much, tell us

Do yahushua follow the laws of the most high, yes or no
 
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judah7;3340108 said:
something to think about IF u come in the volume of the book.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Amen. You said all that needs to be said right there my brother.

But besides all that, these folks are hateful people. Nothing but hate spews out of their mouths. If they worshiped the true and living God, Jesus Christ, they would be filled with love which is the fulfillment of the law.

But instead they hate, say foul things, curse, and worst of all blaspheme the Holy Spirit by denying the divinity of Jesus Christ. It's satanic to the core. Nobody that hates his fellow man will be part of His kingdom. Your a murderer if you hate according to God.

Jesus said you will know his disciples by the fruit they bear. You have to be a fruit inspector my brother Judah7. And the fruit that Waterproof bears is foul, odious, and spoiled. The words he speaks toward fellow human beings says it all. It's sickening to say the least.

People like him disgrace the name of Christ by the words they speak. It's just so hateful and awful. Where is the mercy? Where is the compassion? Where is the LOVE? But of course, God said that people like him would come in the last days, so that the children of light would be made manifest and thus separated from the children of darkness.

"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." 1 Corinthians 11:19

So hey, I shake my hands and follow what God says. You have to love your enemies, but have no fellowship with those who are unbelievers, sow discord, and hate. People who sow discord are agents of satan and they don't even know it. Instead of trying to reconcile with one another by having a loving conversation, all these people want to do is curse and hate. I just can't stand it. Thus I had to voice what was on my heart and call it out.

When you want to live under the law of Moses, you are not being led by the Spirit. And thus the works of the flesh will be made manifest. READ IT BELOW!

"18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:18-21

Leave it in Gods hand Judah7. Just continue to love and pray for those who despiftufully use you, hate you, and curse you. Maybe the LORD will remove the stumbling block which is before them when they humble themselves and see the error of their ways.

Amen.
 
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Revelation 2 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.


WHAT IS A Nicolaitan it's Sunday worship; Christmas, with its Sat-urnalian excesses; New Year's, with its watchnight and attendant debaucheries; Easter with its eggs, bunnies, hot-cross-buns, and sunrise worship; May Day with its May-poles and Lawn Festivals; Halloween, and its attending misrule, are not the feasts of YHWH as commanded in the Bible, but are definitely perpetuations of the old pagan Babylonian feasts, belonging to the pagan deities: "Lord, God, Jesus Christ, and Ma-Rhea, or Maria, the English Mary".

The Messiah Nevered was called or knew the name of Jesus for even the Greek called him Yahushua John 2:20 And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:

12:21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Yahushua.


2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith YHWH, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith YHWH the Almighty.


Even Shaul/Paul speaks the truth sometimes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And this is what the Prophet Isiah says about YAHUWAH laws ISIAH 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.



Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith YHWH, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

2:17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name
. (baal means LORD)

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from Elohim only?

5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.


So if you dont believe in Moses and the words that he wrote about Yahushua and YAHUWAH laws that he wrote then you dont believe in YAHUSHUA.

so next time you speak ill towards me remember what YAHUSHUA said

Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
 
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To the Hebrew Males, know and learn about Shaul/Paul, The Messiah never made him an Apostle and he wasnt apart of the 12 apostle. He was a son of a pharisee who every time he told the story of conversion it changed. Take the Good and throw out the bad.

What came out of Pauls mouth was not given to him from YAHUWAH for YAHUWAH does not change his mind, and was not from YAHUSHUA for YAHUSHUA obeyed his father laws and enforce them, For Christ was circumsied himself.

Luke 2 :21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Yahushua, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Mary and Joseph was hebrews who followed the Laws of Yahuwah, and every Hebrew male was to have circumcision.

Genesis 17 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you
.

words from the YAHUWAH, if you from the seed of Abraham and is a hebrew keep the fathers law.
 
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TO THE HEBREW BROTHERS AND SISTER READ AND LEARN WHAT OUR ANCESTORS WENT THROUGH and HOW WE DIED FOR THE LAWS OF OUR FATHER YAHUWAH AND DIDNT TAKE THE HEATHEN GENTILE LAWS that was against the most high

Chapter 1
1 Maccabees, chapter 1

1: After Alexander son of Philip, the Macedonian, who came from the land of Kittim, had defeated Darius, king of the Persians and the Medes, he succeeded him as king. (He had previously become king of Greece.)
2: He fought many battles, conquered strongholds, and put to death the kings of the earth.
3: He advanced to the ends of the earth, and plundered many nations. When the earth became quiet before him, he was exalted, and his heart was lifted up.
4: He gathered a very strong army and ruled over countries, nations, and princes, and they became tributary to him.
5: After this he fell sick and perceived that he was dying.
6: So he summoned his most honored officers, who had been brought up with him from youth, and divided his kingdom among them while he was still alive.
7: And after Alexander had reigned twelve years, he died.
8: Then his officers began to rule, each in his own place.
9: They all put on crowns after his death, and so did their sons after them for many years; and they caused many evils on the earth.
10: From them came forth a sinful root, Antiochus Epiphanes, son of Antiochus the king; he had been a hostage in Rome. He began to reign in the one hundred and thirty-seventh year of the kingdom of the Greeks.
11: In those days lawless men came forth from Israel, and misled many, saying, "Let us go and make a covenant with the Gentiles round about us, for since we separated from them many evils have come upon us."
12: This proposal pleased them,
13: and some of the people eagerly went to the king. He authorized them to observe the ordinances of the Gentiles.
14: So they built a gymnasium in Jerusalem, according to Gentile custom,
15: and removed the marks of circumcision, and abandoned the holy covenant. They joined with the Gentiles and sold themselves to do evil.
16: When Antiochus saw that his kingdom was established, he determined to become king of the land of Egypt, that he might reign over both kingdoms.
17: So he invaded Egypt with a strong force, with chariots and elephants and cavalry and with a large fleet.
18: He engaged Ptolemy king of Egypt in battle, and Ptolemy turned and fled before him, and many were wounded and fell.
19: And they captured the fortified cities in the land of Egypt, and he plundered the land of Egypt.
20: After subduing Egypt, Antiochus returned in the one hundred and forty-third year. He went up against Israel and came to Jerusalem with a strong force.
21: He arrogantly entered the sanctuary and took the golden altar, the lampstand for the light, and all its utensils.
22: He took also the table for the bread of the Presence, the cups for drink offerings, the bowls, the golden censers, the curtain, the crowns, and the gold decoration on the front of the temple; he stripped it all off.
23: He took the silver and the gold, and the costly vessels; he took also the hidden treasures which he found.
24: Taking them all, he departed to his own land. He committed deeds of murder, and spoke with great arrogance.
25: Israel mourned deeply in every community,
26: rulers and elders groaned, maidens and young men became faint, the beauty of women faded.
27: Every bridegroom took up the lament; she who sat in the bridal chamber was mourning.
28: Even the land shook for its inhabitants, and all the house of Jacob was clothed with shame.
29: Two years later the king sent to the cities of Judah a chief collector of tribute, and he came to Jerusalem with a large force.
30: Deceitfully he spoke peaceable words to them, and they believed him; but he suddenly fell upon the city, dealt it a severe blow, and destroyed many people of Israel.
31: He plundered the city, burned it with fire, and tore down its houses and its surrounding walls.
32: And they took captive the women and children, and seized the cattle.
33: Then they fortified the city of David with a great strong wall and strong towers, and it became their citadel.
34: And they stationed there a sinful people, lawless men. These strengthened their position;
35: they stored up arms and food, and collecting the spoils of Jerusalem they stored them there, and became a great snare.
36: It became an ambush against the sanctuary, an evil adversary of Israel continually.
37: On every side of the sanctuary they shed innocent blood; they even defiled the sanctuary.
38: Because of them the residents of Jerusalem fled; she became a dwelling of strangers; she became strange to her offspring, and her children forsook her.
39: Her sanctuary became desolate as a desert; her feasts were turned into mourning, her sabbaths into a reproach, her honor into contempt.
40: Her dishonor now grew as great as her glory; her exaltation was turned into mourning.
41: Then the king wrote to his whole kingdom that all should be one people,
42: and that each should give up his customs.
43: All the Gentiles accepted the command of the king. Many even from Israel gladly adopted his religion; they sacrificed to idols and profaned the sabbath.
44: And the king sent letters by messengers to Jerusalem and the cities of Judah; he directed them to follow customs strange to the land,
45: to forbid burnt offerings and sacrifices and drink offerings in the sanctuary, to profane sabbaths and feasts,
46: to defile the sanctuary and the priests,
47: to build altars and sacred precincts and shrines for idols, to sacrifice swine and unclean animals,
48: and to leave their sons uncircumcised. They were to make themselves abominable by everything unclean and profane,
49: so that they should forget the law and change all the ordinances.
50: "And whoever does not obey the command of the king shall die."
51: In such words he wrote to his whole kingdom. And he appointed inspectors over all the people and commanded the cities of Judah to offer sacrifice, city by city.
52: Many of the people, every one who forsook the law, joined them, and they did evil in the land;
53: they drove Israel into hiding in every place of refuge they had.
54: Now on the fifteenth day of Chislev, in the one hundred and forty-fifth year, they erected a desolating sacrilege upon the altar of burnt offering. They also built altars in the surrounding cities of Judah,
55: and burned incense at the doors of the houses and in the streets.
56: The books of the law which they found they tore to pieces and burned with fire.
57: Where the book of the covenant was found in the possession of any one, or if any one adhered to the law, the decree of the king condemned him to death.
58: They kept using violence against Israel, against those found month after month in the cities.
59: And on the twenty-fifth day of the month they offered sacrifice on the altar which was upon the altar of burnt offering.
60: According to the decree, they put to death the women who had their children circumcised,
61: and their families and those who circumcised them; and they hung the infants from their mothers' necks.
62: But many in Israel stood firm and were resolved in their hearts not to eat unclean food.
63: They chose to die rather than to be defiled by food or to profane the holy covenant; and they did die.
64: And very great wrath came upon Israel.


LIKE OUR ANCESTORS STAY FIRM and followed the LAWS, Vegence is of our father who will punish and destroy those who turn his people to follow the heathens and gentiles.

And remember we are YAHUWAH battles Axe that he will use us to break NATIONS, we are the apple of his eye, we are his children
 
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The Torah showed with out Faith there are no works, Faith and works been with The Hebrews since Abraham

Genesis 15

15:1 After these things the word of YHWH came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

15:2 And Abram said, Sovereign YHWH, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

15:3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.

15:4 And, behold, the word of YHWH came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

15:6 And he believed in YHWH; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

^^^Right there, all those Blessings that YAHUWAH gave to abraham would not happen with out faith and works, He already had the Laws that was taught to him by Noah, now for the blessings he had to have faith with his works.

Christ said he came not to Change the Law, If you have love then you will love the father by obeying his laws. People want Christ to be a cop out and he's not a cop out, he lived by the law
 
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@My_nameaintearl;3364621 said:
if you guys are jews, howcome you're all broke bitches?

how come you been on this site since 2002 and damn near 36 acting like a young girl, and your mouth is just a foul as your mothers
 
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judah7;3364664 said:
Christ lived by the law but the NT doctrine is that his death symbolized removal of the curse of the law which is death and that we have liberty in Christ since he died for our sins.

So if we are to keep all the laws, statutes, and commandments then doesnt the Most High in the Torah also say we are to keep his judgements?

The judgements = death for those that break the law but the NT doctrine is that Christ gave us liberty, grace, and removal of the curse of the law which is death. So how could we keep all the law of the Most High if we cant keep his judgements since Christ removed the curse of the law?

And the 12 Disciples kept the laws even after THE MESSIYAH death, you know why? Because Christ and the Disciples is Hebrews and The Tribe of Judah (Judah, Benjamin and Levi) kept the laws to, Our Ancestors that left Jesrusalem in 70 Ad at kept the laws too, When we went to west africa, south africa we kept the laws too. Christ death was the ultimate sacrafice, the unblemish lamb for the Hebrews, Christ died and went to hell to defeat death so now we can repent if we break the laws.
 
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@Judah 7 do you know what you just quote???? why are you taking away the glory of YAHUWAH??? Hebrew 8:8 and 10:16 is Yahuwah speaking, YAHUWAH is the ONLY PERSON with THE POWER TO MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH ISRAEL! you doing to much, that's that Pauline Catholic doctrine that you speak. Because YAHUSHUA never said he's going to make a new covenant with Israel while we walked this earth, because he cant. He's a Man the son of YAHUWAH a Hebrew.

Yahushua never spoke of making a new covenant, the 12 disciples never said that and our ancestors after the death who followed YAHUSHUA never believed ANYTHING OF THAT, you go to Israel, West Africa, South Africa and Ethiopia with that and see what they tell you. And my ancestors aint nevered believed that lie. That came from a Roman church and im going to make a thread so yall so-called hebrews and christians can see where these thinking came from.

Hebrews 8 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith YHWH, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith YHWH.

8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith YHWH; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them Elohim, and they shall be to me a people:

8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know ye YHWH: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


YAHUWAH made the covenant with Isarel and the Days Come is the end of the age of the gentiles when we are brought back to Isarel, the one's that believed the father and listen to his messengers during the anti christ era, and accepted that they are hebrews and the father name is YAHUWAH and his son name is YAHUSHUA and start following the laws of the father, those the one's that YAHUWAH will take to jerusalem and make a new covenant with.

Hebrews 10 :16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith YHWH, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


^^Same thing i said earlier
 
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akomax;3366794 said:
that guy is copy-pasting things he got no clue about
read them first ...

I been telling him for weeks, he cant just be copying the scripture without reading the whole scripture, you will get no understanding.
 
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@ judah 7

this is the last time im going to address you and this game that you play, may the other Hebrew brothers help you out like One Spliff or Judah Xuliu. With Shaul go do some research and get understanding, He was confuse he was a pharisee and a son of a pharisee one of the few black hebrews who was a pharisee that was put in the seat of moses by Esau and Amlek. He was a hebrew who was a Roman. In his letters you get to sides of Shaul/Paul one that appease to the pagan worshipping Romans who had Paul going around killing Hebrews and goes against the word of Yahuwah and one of a hebrew who knew the father laws and wrote some Gems.

With anybody if they go against the the word of the most high throw it out, Shaul/Paul is the only one in his letters that have two different views.

Now about the other thing that you believe then go ahead, i will not agree with you our follow you. I take the words of YAHUWAH over you ANYDAY, i will follow my ancestors the one's that kept the commandment and laws even after messiyah death just like the disciples over you anyday. I will follow christ, who followed the ALL THE LAWS of the FATHER, IF YOU KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST then YOU WILL KEEP THE FATHER LAWS because he says that, I will follow the 12 disciples before i follow your doctrine that you believe in.

And you dont have to believe me that Shaul was not a true apostle, there are only 12 Apostle's YAHUSHUA didnt elect no one else, after them there are none.

Revelation 2 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

even the Original Apostle told Paul/Shaul that he wasnt taught by Christ so he's not an apostle. Again like i said paul was confuse he had those demons on him and had a job to do, but you can see some truth when he let them out. take the good and throw out the bad.

Now im not going to do homework for you, you do it.

SHALOM

and you going to learn one way or another, these game you play will come to an end
 
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judah7;3371775 said:
waterproof if there are scriptures in the Bible that state that we are not under the law but under faith and that we are to keep the commandments of Christ and that love FULFILLS the law, then are u saying I am wrong for believing that?

There is also scriptures that say that if anyone believes they are justified by the law they are fallen from grace and if anyone keeps all the law but offends in one point they are guilty of them all.

I didnt write those scriptures in the Bible so I dont know how you can say I am taking glory away from the Most High.

You say that Paul was not a true apostle of Christ which I dont believe you. But you know that Peter was an Apostle of Christ and he wrote scripture in support of what Paul wrote. How can you believe its ok to take some of the New Testament and then throw the rest away as false scripture?

Paul wrote the book of Hebrews yet you take some of what Paul wrote in Hebrews as being truth but you take some other parts of Hebrews as being false prophecy.

I mean we cant take half the New Testament as truth and then say the other half is false.

How can you do that when God is not the author of confusion?

The Law is for our benefit, not for Yah's. Faith and Law are two different things. Any questions about Yah seemingly altering his policy in the New Testament can be gauged by this measure-----Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

The people who put together the Bible used older materials. They were not Hebrews nor were they friends of our people. The Septuagint was written by Hellenistic Hebrews by command of their colonizers. Greek is a profane tongue. Why would YHWH seal his Holy word in the tongue of the same demons who sacrificed pigs at the Temple?

I thought maybe ya'll would figure it out on ya'lls own because I really don't like getting into this type of stuff but I'm going to make a thread on the history of the so-called New Testament and the exact contradictions of Paul.

We must use discernment. What "new" testament would come from Yah who says he changes NOT?
 
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