The Lonious Monk
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tru_m.a.c;2826086 said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/browbeat/archive/2011/04/20/is-game-of-thrones-racist.aspx
The Dothraki have always been a hodgepodge creation: George R.R. Martin has written, "I have tried to mix and match ethnic and cultural traits in creating my imaginary fantasy peoples, so there are no direct one-for-one correspodences [sic]. The Dothraki, for example, are based in part on the Mongols, the Alans, and the Huns, but their skin coloring is Amerindian."
Anything else you need?
The Huns were a nomadic warlike people who prized strength and the role a horse could play in battle and everyday life.
The Dothraki are a nomadic warlike people who prize strenght and the role a horse could play in battle and everyday life.
Yeah, you're right. Nothing at all similar there.
How are the Huns and Germanic tribes considered civiliazations equal to Rome? Both of those groups were nomadic to some degree and tribal in nature. Neither was part of a huge empire like Rome or employed many of the technological or societal breakthroughs that Rome did. So in what way do either of those groups compare to Rome from a civilization standpoint. The Carthaganians is a little bit of a looser point, but it certainly can be argued that Rome was more technologically advanced, even if not to the degree of the 7 kingdoms vs the Dothraki.
And, the Dothraki have metal weapons and tools. Was it stated somewhere that they were incapable of making anything? I didn't see or hear that. If that was said, then my mistake. If it wasn't said then what is your point again?
No they wouldn't what. I'm having trouble following your pointless posts that question me but add absolutely nothing. Are you saying they weren't very fearsome? Well that would be stupid, go read up on some of the things that the mongols did. Are you saying they weren't tribal? Well, that would be stupider being that the "proof" you put clearly states that the mongols arose for the union of two different tribes. Of course the Mongols created an empire which the Dothraki haven't, but that doesn't negate the fact that their origin was in the form of tribal people and much of their early history was of a tribal nature.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MONGOLS.htm
Yeah you're right. Nothing tribal about them.
Once again, I never said it happens frequently. I said, that it wouldn't be ridiculous for it to happen in the story because it's not unprecedented in real history. No where did I say it happened frequently. But the underdog winning does happen and has happened a lot in history even if only for a battle. I'm not ignoring the poisoning. It's just irrelevant. The discussion isn't about the Dothraki's ability to play political games. It's about the potential militaristic threat they pose to the 7 kingdoms. You seem to believe that they'd be a minor nuisance at best. I and the story disagree with you.
lol Are we in a court of law? Since when do you have to have corroborating witnesses for a discussion about a fictional story. Once again it's a story. Parts of any story are exposed through the characters and their dialogue. Jorah is a character in the story and he made that statement so it is evidence in itself. Maybe later it comes out that he was lying. That's fine, but for now we have valid reason to believe based on a character's statement that Dani would have some support.
Do you even know what we are debating anymore? We are not talking about who has the better civilization. We are talking about the potential threat that the Dothraki would have made should they make it to the 7 Kingdoms. Their lack of agriculture is completely irrelevant. Considering, they make a living off of raiding villages, pillaging, and taking what they need, I think they'll be able to do a lot of damage and stock up on a lot of stuff before they are finally stopped or faced with a full on face to face war. Robert himself pretty much says this in the show.
Why is it a copout to suggest that one was no more primary than the other? The dude tossed Jorah around effortlessly and sauntered around like he wasn't in a fight. That kind of a demeanor leaves openings for defeat. The fact that Jorah was armored allowed him to perform the move he did to win the fight. He won, but he certainly didn't outfight the dothraki guy or display superior skill.
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