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[Darius]

I think that was from the spell the witch lady did why the kid looked like that

but if it was going to cost khaleesie her childs like, it wouldn't matter what spell the witch put on the baby. it she was going to kill it, it wouldn't make sense for her to put a meaningless spell on it

 

[Darius]

ok, aside from the dragon theory....is it safe to assume that she can not give birth to regular babies and that she is and will be the last Targaryen

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I'm pretty sure Drogo's people are influenced to some degree by the Huns. The same group that came pretty close to taking down the Roman Empire. So the idea of the 7 kingdoms losing out to a tribal people isn't all that laughable when looking back at history.

Ima pretend you didn't compare the Huns to the Dothraki.

I hate when people do that. You take the greatest, most singularly rare example, and make it the rule.

The most technologically advanced culture wins throughout history. And technology includes but is not restricted to science, medicine, travel/transportation, agriculture and military innovation. All of which the dothraki lacked to the umpth degree.

Did you not see the fight between Drogo's #1 man and Jorah? Jorah hasn't fought in real combat in probably 16yrs (estimation based upon Dani's age). And he straight smashed dude. Lol I don't understand how this is even a discussion. Jorah had to explain to Dani's "bodyguard" how armor and a straight edged sword was superior to the Dothraki's curved sword in like the 2nd episode.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

ok, aside from the dragon theory....is it safe to assume that she can not give birth to regular babies and that she is and will be the last Targaryen

um....I wouldn't go that far. The only reason the baby came out like that was because of the enchantment curse. Life = life.

I'd put Lannister gold on Jorah dipping in her shit before stories end.

 

[Darius]

um....I wouldn't go that far. The only reason the baby came out like that was because of the enchantment curse. Life = life.

I'd put Lannister gold on Jorah dipping in her shit before stories end.

i got that part, but how do we know the curse isn't forever? - i haven't ready any of the books or any of that other stuff, so i'm just speculating

and cosign on jorah

 

[thenatureboy]

Really liked the finale, set things up nicely to where I am really looking forward to next season. What a way to go out with the final image of Dani.

King Joffrey has to be a candidate for villain of the year with lines like "When you've had your first blood, I'll put a son in you" and "Will you behave or do you need another lesson"

So Jamie has just been captured and already Cersei is hopping into bed with her cousin? SMH at Lannisters keeping everything in the family.

 

[Darius]

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[ERICisMINE]

What do you expect? She's a filthy skank. lol

Really liked the finale, set things up nicely to where I am really looking forward to next season. What a way to go out with the final image of Dani.

King Joffrey has to be a candidate for villain of the year with lines like "When you've had your first blood, I'll put a son in you" and "Will you behave or do you need another lesson"

So Jamie has just been captured and already Cersei is hopping into bed with her cousin? SMH at Lannisters keeping everything in the family.

 

[bignorm73]

ill show. smh at Dany tho

 

[rice n gravy]

forgot about the ol man dick coulda gone without seeing that

 

[tru_m.a.c]

i got that part, but how do we know the curse isn't forever? - i haven't ready any of the books or any of that other stuff, so i'm just speculating

and cosign on jorah

Mmmm good point. I think that's to be assumed by the reader. But would be a ghastly twist at the very end if she is able to conquer the 7 kingdoms. Imagine the irony. From Mad King, to Bastard King to Dragon King.

King Joffrey has to be a candidate for villain of the year with lines like "When you've had your first blood, I'll put a son in you" and "Will you behave or do you need another lesson"

Why stop at villain of the year? I think he had the lines of the year with those 2. And you can say the pimp hand runs strong in his family (even though King Robert isn't his father).

And I loved the revised version of "When I say jump, you say 'how high?' When Paris Hilton Stark was like "How long should I look?" And Joeffrey was like "Til I get tired."

 

[Darius]

its gonna be interesting to see the relationship between the Lannisters and king joff once the imp becomes the right hand. imagine his swindling ass nh in there with maester and carcetti. I would think now would be the time for Robb to seize control, but i have to keep reminding myself that the good guys rarely win in this show, and have not occupied the throne that i'm aware of

 

[S.jR.]

That King of the North scene was the shit!

Even though Dany brought it on herself for being naive...I still felt bad for her. She lost her husband her baby and most of her people with in days. Shit had to be hard for her to put Drogo out of his misery. No sense in letting him live when he aint really alive but that was one of the saddest scenes to me besides Ned getting killed.

For sure, but even still she was getting everything way too soon only because she was fuckin the right dude. This way, she's really about to prove her worth and it's already starting to show. The rest of the khalasar that left is gonna be upset that they did. Like "I left and this bitch didn't have shit, now she rolling with not 1, not 2 but 3 dragons?!?!"

I dont know if it implies any sort of specific motive; i just think that it goes to show that everyone around the king is living a life of deception. and he may be better than most at it considering how many kings he has served

This.

 

[S.jR.]

Just re-watched it, nvm.. but I was happy with the CGI.

 

[S.jR.]

LOL at the witch saying she won't scream.. bitch please.

 

[S.jR.]

Should help clear up some questions about this season and next season.. especially about the direwolves.

Warning: Game of Thrones finale spoilers below…

No wonder HBO renewed Game of Thrones so fast — the network would have a subscriber riot on its hands if the network folded the show after Sunday’s closer. With Jon marching beyond the wall, Tyrion appointed to rule Kings Landing, Arya traveling to Castle Black, Robb declared King of the North, Sansa promised to wed her father’s murderer and Dany hatching a trio of dragons, the stage is set for all sorts of drama in season two. Below executive producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss answer a few of this season’s burning questions:

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: First, the question on everybody’s minds: Why did Hodor randomly run into a scene naked?

DAVID BENIOFF: Equal opportunity nudity. There’s a line in the book about him having the blood of giants, and you need to see him for that line to play. And we didn’t want to do the coy Austin Powers joke where he’s covered up by a french baguette or something.

D.B. WEISS: I just feel, what’s so scary about d–ks? Half the people in the world have them, why not put them on television? Now if we ever show [the eunuch] Varys naked…

DB: Good idea, write that down.

Obviously Ned Stark’s death received a huge reaction from viewers. What was that like for you guys last week?

DB: We’re in Belfast, we were thousands of miles from all the screaming in America. We don’t have a sadistic reaction, we’re not taking pleasure in people’s pain because we get it — we had a similar reaction when we read the book. But we wanted a strong reaction and we got one. I think apathy is the worst thing when making a show like this. If people are infuriated, it’s great that this fictional world has such an impact. There was never a moment of doubt about doing it this way.

DW: For me, reading the book, it was the moment when I was like, ‘We have to do this.’ It epitomizes this whole world.

DB: For me, that moment was Hodor’s penis.
[Laughter]

DW: We both got our way!

What would you say to some viewers who are writing in the comments, “Ned and Drogo were my favorite characters, I’m never watching this show again.”

DW: It’s like when you throw the book across the room and then you run back and pick it up again.

DB: If you’re just watching the show for Ned Stark, I’m not sure which show you’re watching. Clearly there’s a huge number of characters and Ned and Drogo have been vital parts of the story. But it’s crucial for us we create a world where you’re constantly in fear for these characters — that was our experience reading the books. It creates a huge amount of suspense. You kind of cling to the characters when you know you can lose them at any moment.

DW: It’s not something [author George R.R. Martin] does willy nilly. Ned dying is telling a hard truth about the price of honor and the price of morality in a world where not everybody has the same values as you do. It’s not a simplistic redemptive message, where you sacrifice yourself and it saves the day. At lot of times sacrifice ends up being futile.

Ned’s execution was shot perfectly. One thing that seemed really smart was adding in Arya and Ned seeing each other.

DB: There’s a reason [director] Alan Taylor is sitting 20 feet from us: We dragged him back to Belfast to shoot another four episodes for season two. In the book, Yoren happens to see Arya, and it’s a bit of a mild coincidence. For us, it was more important that Ned be the one to see her and says that one word to him, “Baelor.” We had the statue of Baelor and had the name “Baelor” carved into it and thought we were being all smart. But we failed to realize the crowd would be right in front of the word when we shot it. Luckily people seemed to figure it out anyway. It’s the one last thing Ned can do to protect this girl he loves so much. And when he looks out there and sees she’s gone, hopefully now she’s safe, but it’s also now just a sea of angry faces and that’s all he’s left with. I just loved Sean Bean — he conveyed so much with no dialog whatsoever.

In the opening of the finale, you ended up showing Ned’s severed head, the blood, the corpse. Can you talk about that decision?

DB: There was no way to do that in episode nine without obscuring what the moment was supposed to be about. But on the flip side, there’s something harsh and incontrovertible about what just happened and we didn’t want to shy away from that. There’s also a parallel in first episode where Ned beheads a deserter, and we’re seeing it from Bran’s perspective. Bran’s told very specifically “don’t look away” and we see the whole thing. In episode nine, we shift from Ned to Arya and she’s told “don’t look, don’t look” and Yoren restrains her from seeing — she’ll be scarred anyway, but he doesn’t want her to have this image in her mind. So we don’t see what Arya doesn’t see.

DW: There was a bunch of viewers who had a denial reaction — that Ned can’t really be dead. But in episode ten we make it clear he’s dead. There was a lot of discussion over how many frames of sword-into-neck to include. We had very high-pitched arguments about whether to add another twelfth of a second of a beheading.

In the books, characters occasionally have flashbacks to moments with Ned Stark. Did you shoot any additional material with Bean that might be used in later seasons?

DB: I wish I could tell you that we did.

DW: A lot of those flashbacks take place years ago, and Sean’s stuntman looks uncannily like a young Sean Bean, so that may work.

I don’t know if you’ve seen this online, but Thrones has inspired a new word, “sexposition” — the combination of expository dialogue and a sex scene.

DB: We’re really admiring of the cleverness of that word.

DW: Unfortunately, we didn’t actually invent using sexposition.

DB: We might have to come up with a new expository tool for season two — like using dragons.

Some fans were bummed they didn’t see anything from the battles, even though they’re not very detailed in the book either. I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say there’s a big battle in the second book. Will you be able to show that?

DB: There was never much discussion of shooting The Battle of Whispering Wood [Robb vs. Jaime's army]. We did have plans to show Tyrion marching into battle behind The Mountain. We had a whole way we wanted to shoot it following Tyrion’s eye level as The Mountain is just (cutting soldiers down). Ultimately we had to make some really tough decisions. We ran out of time to shoot it properly and we much rather have a great scene with our characters than a crappy version of the battle. We want to have some great battles, we’re working very hard to have great battles in season two. We’d like to have more direwolves too.

DW: There’s so many things we can do so much better than films. But there are a few things like battles and creatures where there’s a brute force financial component to doing those well, and it involves being very creative and selective about how you show those things to make them achievable. We don’t want them to look like a Playstation 2 game, we want it to look at the same level [of quality] as the rest of the show.

Those looked like very realistic, big-summer-movie-quality dragons. How are you going to afford to keep doing that though season two?

DB: I have no idea. It’s going to be a season of tough choices. We have dragons, we have direwolves growing, we have massive battles. Despite the various character deaths, we have a growing cast of characters — all this with the same amount of time to shoot it.

DW: There’s going to be a lot of smoke.

Will the direwolves be created with CGI in season two?

DW: It will be a combination of real dogs and visual effects and any other way we can make it work.
What are some lessons you’ve learned from shooting the first season that might influence season two?
DB: Any time you have a horse in a scene, it doubles the shooting time. We know the cast really well now and writing for those actors is a huge advantage. We know, say, John Bradley (Sam) is going give an incredible line reading of this line. It makes it a lot of fun writing for these people we’ve come to know so well.

 

[ShencotheMC]

Yo am I the only one who laughed when Jeoffrey told his mans to two-piece slap up Paris Hilton Stark because he didn't wanna put his hands on her? Lmao

Ayo next season fint' to be live

 

[S.jR.]

Jaime: "If your gods are real, why is the world so unjust?"

Catelyn: "Because of men like you."

Jaime: "There are no men like me."

And more from Entertainment Weekly..

Here's my picks for the best and worst from season one:

Best Episode: I'd have to say Episode 9. Not just for the climatic Ned Stark execution, the entire hour was very strong. Runner ups: Episode six and eight were close.

Worst: Episode 3 -- no deaths, no sex, no wolves, just chat-chat-chat. It was also the only episode to conclude without any kind of cliffhanger.

Best actor: Peter Dinklage: The obvious fan-favorite choice, sure, and Tyrion gets all the fun lines to play with. But you can't take your eyes off him. Some of these episodes I watched like five times to write a recap, and Dinklage takes even the most expository bits of throwaway dialog and does something interesting with them.

Runner-up: Sean Bean. Until the last couple episodes, I would have picked maybe Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger) or Mark Addy (King Robert). I thought Bean's performance was stiff, but that's sort of how Eddard Stark is. Once his life began to fall apart, Bean started layering in vulnerability while still maintaining his core strength and the result was fascinating to watch.

Best actress: Maisie Williams: And some of you thought I didn't like Arya. In a show full of strong child actor performances, Williams was heartbreaking and pitch perfect.

Runner-up: Like Bean, Lena Headey's performance wasn't very flashy, but that's also aligned with her character -- Cersei always maintains a poker face. But check out her scene discussing her hate-marriage in Episode 5 with King Robert.

Best Fight: Bronn vs. Eryie Knight. We didn't particularly care about either of these people at the time, but with Bronn standing in for Tyrion it put the life of one of our favorite characters at risk. Their fight was unconventional, suspenseful and was staged differently than any sword fight I've seen -- plus the whole Moon Door trap gave the set a sci-fi Star Wars quality to it. Runner-up: Jaime vs. Ned.

Hottest Sex Scene: Drogo and Dany (the non-rape one). Tough to choose a sex scene from Thrones without sounding like a freak because there's something taboo in nearly all of them. But Dany showing Drogo her newfound girl-on-top skills in Episode 2 (my favorite to recap) wins out.

Best Change From the Books: There was a lot of smart moves. In the book, Arya sees Ned getting executed from a distance and Yoren finds her on his own. The producers added a connection between them in the scene which amplifies its power tremendously. Runner-up: Drogo's tongue-ripping fight scene. Now we understand why he's the toughest guy in the tribe.

Most missed scene from books: Tyrion marching into battle in Episode 9. There's two schools of thought on this subject: We didn't see much in the books either, or that HBO needs to pony up more money. I don't agree with the first -- TV is a visual medium and if a viewer feels disappointed by not showing a fight then their feelings are valid whether the scene was in the books or not. But I also don't know how anybody can describe Thrones as cheap. So I don't fault producers for not shooting this, I'm just bummed it wasn't there. Now, if they don't show anything from a certain battle next season, that's a whole other story. Runner-up: The Stark and Lannister kids sparring in the yard at Winterfell during King Robert's visit.

Most WFT Nude Scene: Hodor! First runner-up: Lysa breastfeeding her pre-adolescent son. Second runner-up: Ros flashing her cooter on turnip cart.

Best Sexposition: I loved Viserys talking about dragons in the bathtub with the curious prostitute. The actor really brought a lot to this tale remembering his youth in Kings Landing, especially since his memories weren't dramatic -- it was all in the mood and delivery of this scene. The kicker at the end ("What am I paying you for? To make me sad?") was one of the biggest laughs in the show. This gave sexposition a good name.

Worst Sexposition: Littlefinger's speech about vying for Catelyn's affection while judging Ros auditioning for Brothel Idol. It was sort of funny, but I didn't believe this scene for a second.

Best Advice: "There is only one god. His name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: Not today" -- Syrio Forel.

Worst Monologue: No surprise to regular readers, King Robert's speech about his first kill, a dull speech in a throwaway scene.

Best Joke: "You wouldn't know him," Bronn, when Tyrion sets him up to recite his parentage to Tywin. (OK, you sort of had to be there).

Most Gruesome Death: Viserys getting "crowned." I tried to reassure myself that his death was over relatively quickly, that he stopped screaming so abruptly because, I'm assuming, the molten gold flowed into his eye sockets and reached his brain. That I'm reassuring myself by thinking this makes me all the more creeped out.

Dumbest Controversy: Jon's direwolf Ghost barks in show but not in books? Blasphemy!

Most Powerful Scene: Ned Stark's execution. Everybody involved with the show knew this scene had to rock. Gorgeous, horrific, suspenseful. The most tense artistry for a character death since Adriana was driven out to the woods in The Sopranos.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Yo am I the only one who laughed when Jeoffrey told his mans to two-piece slap up Paris Hilton Stark because he didn't wanna put his hands on her? Lmao

Ayo next season fint' to be live

nope I was right there laughing with you....no chris brown

 

[Kame]

nh at episode 5...............