Harsh Article On Wale By The Washington City Paper (Talks About Attitude + Music)

[R.D.]

The major problem... he still hasn't learned to stick with one thing and be good at it... versatility is fine... but not with wale.

He's a good rapper, but content wise his shit don't flow together and gets lost in whatever point he's trying to get across

aite man...my point was he the same nigga that he always been and more or less still talk around the same shit. If you were a Wale fan before Ambition, you're still a Wale fan. He still briefly touched social issues, made songs for hoes, and bragged on tracks like always

S/N You know whats funny ? If Wale never claimed DC or spoke of it, Niggas would say he forgetting where he came from. I guarantee all the hater niggas who say he aint DC or don't represent DC right would all be talking bout how he was born in DC and trying to claim him. Shows how fickle this area is

 

[Kame]

aite man...my point was he the same nigga that he always been and more or less still talk around the same shit. If you were a Wale fan before Ambition, you're still a Wale fan. He still briefly touched social issues, made songs for hoes, and bragged on tracks like always

S/N You know whats funny ? If Wale never claimed DC or spoke of it, Niggas would say he forgetting where he came from. I guarantee all the hater niggas who say he aint DC or don't represent DC right would all be talking bout how he was born in DC and trying to claim him. Shows how fickle this area is

He has been doing this pre MMG as well.... a point the author makes... he did it on his first album as well...
Outside of a couple tracks and verses here and there, I don't think I've liked a full project from dude since Mixtape About Nothing, (though that joint he did with 9th wonder had some great tracks)

 

[checkmate3]

This shit don't sound objective at all fam....writer sounds like a hater.

 

[blackrain]

I don't disagree with the article, there were some valid points in there...

Wale doesn't even know what type of artist he is...Meaning, you never know what Wale your gonna get... Are you gonna get mixtape Wale? Emotional Wale (yuck)? Fashion Wale? Spoken Word Wale? MMG Wale? Arrogant Wale? Suburb Wale? DC Wale? simp Wale? U never know who's gonna show up on the track...

Wale will be a nice ghostwriter in a few years.

What's the issue with an artist showing more than 1 side of themselves? That's honesty, that's being truthful...who wants a rapper to sound the same on every damn song?

 

[S2J]

I don't disagree with the article, there were some valid points in there...

Wale doesn't even know what type of artist he is...Meaning, you never know what Wale your gonna get... Are you gonna get mixtape Wale? Emotional Wale (yuck)? Fashion Wale? Spoken Word Wale? MMG Wale? Arrogant Wale? Suburb Wale? DC Wale? simp Wale? U never know who's gonna show up on the track...

Wale will be a nice ghostwriter in a few years.

You sound like an idiot...

Its called duality...we are ALL different people at different times..cant stand nggas w/ that dumb shyt

Common makes songs about bytches....got dam 2pac died eons ago and we still havent learned that 1 man can be many people? smh only nggas

 

[blackrain]

Nigga cause its all the same...The Wale on Ambition is the same as More about Nothing Wale, Mixtape about Nothing Wale, 11-1-11 wale

i've yet to see anyone who says Wale has changed since joining MMG actually provide any evidence in his music, interviews or whatever...hell just last week or the week before there was a big ass thread about Wale having to explain "600 Benz" not being about a car...and some people not getting "Chain Music" isn't about showing off a chain...the people's perception of Wale has changed but Wale is doing the same music he's always done

 

[Kame]

What's the issue with an artist showing more than 1 side of themselves? That's honesty, that's being truthful...who wants a rapper to sound the same on every damn song?

It isn't being truthful.. its pandering to audiences
Its like, "Imma make something for the LA cokeheads here, they gonna love this one".. forces the music out and doesn't sound good
Then he'll say, "imma make something for the DJ Premier fans here, and add some scratches, they gonna love this one".. force it out and it ends up not sounding good either

Wale is a good rapper, and when he knows who he is and the point he trying to get across... his music is decent (not great but decent)... but when he forces himself it makes him sound worse than he is, and ruins whole projects he tries to make

 

[Kame]

i've yet to see anyone who says Wale has changed since joining MMG actually provide any evidence in his music, interviews or whatever...hell just last week or the week before there was a big ass thread about Wale having to explain "600 Benz" not being about a car...and some people not getting "Chain Music" isn't about showing off a chain...the people's perception of Wale has changed but Wale is doing the same music he's always done

The major problem... in terms of creating a whole project, mixtape or album even pre MMG... he tries to do too much and please too many people with his music... and it affects the quality

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

It isn't being truthful.. its pandering to audiences

Its like, "Imma make something for the LA cokeheads here, they gonna love this one".. forces the music out and doesn't sound good

Then he'll say, "imma make something for the DJ Premier fans here, and add some scratches, they gonna love this one".. force it out and it ends up not sounding good either

Wale is a good rapper, and when he knows who he is and the point he trying to get across... his music is decent (not great but decent)... but when he forces himself it makes him sound worse than he is, and ruins whole projects he tries to make

whats wrong with catering to particular audiences??

 

[S2J]

Dude aint gotta be Dr Hip Hop to give his opinion just like anybody else on here but its obvious he knows what he's talkin about cause most of the shit he's saying is true so it aint like he didn't do his homework. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care what anybody thinks either, he's just doing his job

Nah fam ima side w/ Stokley Carmichael on this 1...

I couldnt find a picture, but...just picture...just imagine..the writer of this piece looks like George Costanza from Seinfeld.

And that happens a lot. Guys who were nerds growing up, couldnt even be around black pople, but then get older and become DJs, videographers, etc....b/c they had the resources we didnt...I dont rock with that.

I know these new nggas wanna hold hands and have this 'no boundaries' on hip hop, but bototm line no old white guy is gonna be able to CONNECT to OUR culture 100%. Period.

That goes for Lyor Cohen, Rick Rubin, etc, etc...period.

Again, not ALL, but i know i aint the oly one who notices the stereotypical nerdy, hipster/trendy old white guy who's also a sneakerhead, DJ, etc...Think DJ Semtex, Statik Selektah, Jake One, etc.....

 

[Kame]

SMH at the excuse that people only stated criticizing wale when he joined up with Ross.. when that happened I thought (and still) do it was gonna be an asset. Only people who criticizer for joining up with him are the small group of backpackers who hate Ross

and the only reason im criticizing Wale is cause Im a fan of him, and he's put out 2 albums and 3 mixtapes since the Mixtape About Nothing that have been inconsistent cause of his insecurity and need to please different groups instead of just being himself

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

The major problem... in terms of creating a whole project, mixtape or album even pre MMG... he tries to do too much and please too many people with his music... and it affects the quality

...examples?

 

[lamontbdc]

It isn't being truthful.. its pandering to audiences

Its like, "Imma make something for the LA cokeheads here, they gonna love this one".. forces the music out and doesn't sound good

Then he'll say, "imma make something for the DJ Premier fans here, and add some scratches, they gonna love this one".. force it out and it ends up not sounding good either

Wale is a good rapper, and when he knows who he is and the point he trying to get across... his music is decent (not great but decent)... but when he forces himself it makes him sound worse than he is, and ruins whole projects he tries to make

what artists don't pander to their audiences?

 

[Kame]

whats wrong with catering to particular audiences??

Nothing, but forcing yourself repeatedly to cater to a group of people takes away from the music

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Nothing, but forcing yourself repeatedly to cater to a group of people takes away from the music

ok thats coo ...if you can in any way back that up with some subsatnce to show wale did that or has done that continously throught his career ...

 

[R.D.]

SMH at the excuse that people only stated criticizing wale when he joined up with Ross.. when that happened I thought (and still) do it was gonna be an asset. Only people who criticizer for joining up with him are the small group of backpackers who hate Ross

and the only reason im criticizing Wale is cause Im a fan of him, and he's put out 2 albums and 3 mixtapes since the Mixtape About Nothing that have been inconsistent cause of his insecurity and need to please different groups instead of just being himself

More about Nothing>>Mixtape about Nothing

 

[Kame]

...examples?

Attention Deficit (90210, Chillin, then going and doing something like Shades)
Then pimp wale verses I respect women wale....
then go go wale verses mmg wale
and on ambition doing shit like legendary and chain music (which are great) verses shit like slight work, focused, which pander to audiences)

and I know someone about to yell (versatility!), but doing it too many times and being inconsistent on entire projects takes away from his albums and some of his mixtapes

Look.. when you make music I expect the artist to be themselves... and maybe Wale is the type of rapper who just likes attempting to please different audeinces in a mediocre way instead of focusing on where he sounds best... but I just wanna hear one full great project form the guy.. im no hater

 

[Kame]

More about Nothing>>Mixtape about Nothing

man you trippin lol................

 

[R.D.]

Attention Deficit (90210, Chillin, then going an doing something like Shades)
Then pimp wale verses I respect women wale....
then go go wale verses mmg wale

and I know someone about to yell (versatility!), but doing it too many times and being inconsistent on entire projects takes away from his albums and some of his mixtapes

Look.. when you make music I expect the artist to be themselves... and maybe Wale is the type of rapper who just likes attempting to please different artists in a mediocre way instead of focusing on where he sounds best... but I just wanna hear one full great project form the guy.. im no hater

you reaching

 

[Kame]

you reaching

He didnt put 90210, Chillin and then Shades on the same album then?
He didn't put Legendary and Slight Work on the same album?