Grant Hill's advice for Derrick Rose critics

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BlackxChild;5797696 said:
"Basketball is a physical game, but it’s also a psychological one, especially for elite players such as Hill and Rose, who are accustomed to feeling invincible on the court. Rose’s knee may have “healed,” but that doesn’t mean he’s ready to test it in games -- let alone in the playoffs against the Miami Heat."

This clearly states its 100% mental. So how am I not right to question a guy who cries at the sight of needles?

Like I said Derrick Rose and his brother have given you reason to question him. If Derrick rose was Kobe would he Be ouit there?


9/10 niggas in the league ain't on that Kobe life

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don't jeopardize your career to show you are tough to a bunch of people that would RETIRE on workers comp for any minor injury they could get away with. You have a whole career to look forward to. They want you to be limping and having bad arthritis so you can entertain their asses. They wouldn't do 1/100 of that for a stranger.
 
coop9889;5798805 said:
He clearly has a phobia of needles. Niggas who don't have phobias won't understand. Having a phobia doesnt mean you are mentally weak.

Yes it does because its a weak mindstate that you can't get over. Derrick Rose cries too much for a grown man outside of this needle bullshit.
 
coop9889;5798689 said:
Niggas said lebron was mentally weak/no killer instinct then what happened.....?

Niggas dont know wtf they talking bout. Yall saying he mentally weak based off what the media say.

That was skip bayless not me...
 
coop9889;5799176 said:
BoldChild;5799162 said:
They keep asking them because he keeps responding with, "It depends on how I feel, I could come back at anytime." When he says that, of course they are going to keep asking him, "So, any plans on coming back for the next game?"

If he responded with, "I'm am not at 100% yet, and will not be returning this season", they would stop asking him that question.

That would be correct, if it were truly the case.

But why should he be obligated to say that if that is not how he feels?

The thing is, now everyone is assuming he is 100% not coming back. But that's not the case.

Youre only proving what I say is right.... The man is weak he's not Kobe he's his own man... His body is fine and he can play he's just scared too and he's not ready mentally bc he's mentally weak. That's all I'm saying. If the mans not ready he's not ready.... And he's not ready bc he's mentally weak.... Do you get it now?
 
Nah dude, we gon agree to disagree, Im done in this thread.

Its to the point im just repeating myself which means there's no need to continue. Plus I dont give 2 fucks about him or the bulls im just debating for the sake of debate.

Point is, the media created the hype, it backfired cuz dude aint coming back, now everybody crucifying him when this wouldn't even be that big of a topic had espn not ran it at a tebow-esque level.
 
MR.CJ;5800697 said:
Didn't d rose brother say he might comeback against the heat?

Yeah this nigga need to fire his brother as his "manager" he might be fucking up his money via bad press. He dissed all his teammates by his comments about the bulls not having good players and rose possibly leaving last month. Now he saying shit about maybe hell come back. Im sorry this frail nigga rose not coming back in the physical series fuckouttahere.

 
Bawse D.Lox;5780226 said:
all u nggaz on Rose's dick, need to ease off.

ya forgot, why he's in this situation in the 1st place?

if Rose say he not ready, then Rose is not ready.

fuck all this sports legend, and heroism shit. i wonder what colour are ya panties.

this NBA shit, is a business. you have 2 protect ya assets.

once u become damaged, they'll toss u aside like u was never there.

Kobe out here giving his heart and body parts. but as soon as he goes down. They talking amnestying Kobe

this shit is a business. Rose playing it smart, ya niggaz still tryna color inside the lines


the reason Rose is reluctant to come back, is last year Rose was cleared by the bulls doctor & training staff to play, and you saw what happen.

a logical individual, understands were Rose is coming from.

it's no coincidence me and G.Hill say the same thing. we both speak from logic.

u got a lot of envious individuals, from all aspects of hate. especially the media,

if Rose was the other man, and not a brotha-man. the media would have been more understanding, and say things like "he just wants to be at his best for his team mates"

or brought up the fact that, he was cleared last year, and almost ended his career.

either way, Rose is playing smart. and i have a new found respect for him.
 
I'm gonna laugh hysterically if D. Rose gets into a Lebron "The Decision" scenario.

Then all those who feel he shouldn't say nothing now gonna be like, "why won't he tell us if he's staying or not?"
 
stephen a

"Rose is keeping this alive because he refuses to say no, I'll be in Chicago tonight, if I see him I'm going to ask him."

^ By that I don't know if stephen a was saying he is going to ask him if he is going to play, or why he refuses to say no.
 
Bawse D.Lox;5801679 said:
Bawse D.Lox;5780226 said:
all u nggaz on Rose's dick, need to ease off.

ya forgot, why he's in this situation in the 1st place?

if Rose say he not ready, then Rose is not ready.

fuck all this sports legend, and heroism shit. i wonder what colour are ya panties.

this NBA shit, is a business. you have 2 protect ya assets.

once u become damaged, they'll toss u aside like u was never there.

Kobe out here giving his heart and body parts. but as soon as he goes down. They talking amnestying Kobe

this shit is a business. Rose playing it smart, ya niggaz still tryna color inside the lines


the reason Rose is reluctant to come back, is last year Rose was cleared by the bulls doctor & training staff to play, and you saw what happen.

a logical individual, understands were Rose is coming from.

it's no coincidence me and G.Hill say the same thing. we both speak from logic.

u got a lot of envious individuals, from all aspects of hate. especially the media,

if Rose was the other man, and not a brotha-man. the media would have been more understanding, and say things like "he just wants to be at his best for his team mates"

or brought up the fact that, he was cleared last year, and almost ended his career.

either way, Rose is playing smart. and i have a new found respect for him.

Grant Hill actually blames the bulls, not the media.

"The Bulls haven’t pushed Rose back onto the court prematurely. But they did throw him under the bus, announcing in February that he had been medically cleared to play. “I don’t want to be critical of the Bulls, but I wish they just said, ‘Look, he’s out,’” Hill said."

Like I keep saying, most of this shit would be an issue if Rose just flat out said he can't return this seasons because he is still working on some issues on the court, rather than keeping himself out by saying he can be back at anytime.

Apparently no one on the bulls, and no one in Rose's camp understands this.
 
BoldChild;5801732 said:
stephen a

"Rose is keeping this alive because he refuses to say no, I'll be in Chicago tonight, if I see him I'm going to ask him."

^ By that I don't know if stephen a was saying he is going to ask him if he is going to play, or why he refuses to say no.

the media is keeping it alive, cause they keep talking about it every single day.
 
BoldChild;5801732 said:
stephen a

"Rose is keeping this alive because he refuses to say no, I'll be in Chicago tonight, if I see him I'm going to ask him."

^ By that I don't know if stephen a was saying he is going to ask him if he is going to play, or why he refuses to say no.

Seems to me like he is going to ask him why he doesn't say "no i ain't ready to come back this season".
 
BoldChild;5801753 said:
Bawse D.Lox;5801679 said:
Bawse D.Lox;5780226 said:
all u nggaz on Rose's dick, need to ease off.

ya forgot, why he's in this situation in the 1st place?

if Rose say he not ready, then Rose is not ready.

fuck all this sports legend, and heroism shit. i wonder what colour are ya panties.

this NBA shit, is a business. you have 2 protect ya assets.

once u become damaged, they'll toss u aside like u was never there.

Kobe out here giving his heart and body parts. but as soon as he goes down. They talking amnestying Kobe

this shit is a business. Rose playing it smart, ya niggaz still tryna color inside the lines


the reason Rose is reluctant to come back, is last year Rose was cleared by the bulls doctor & training staff to play, and you saw what happen.

a logical individual, understands were Rose is coming from.

it's no coincidence me and G.Hill say the same thing. we both speak from logic.

u got a lot of envious individuals, from all aspects of hate. especially the media,

if Rose was the other man, and not a brotha-man. the media would have been more understanding, and say things like "he just wants to be at his best for his team mates"

or brought up the fact that, he was cleared last year, and almost ended his career.

either way, Rose is playing smart. and i have a new found respect for him.

Grant Hill Bawse D actually blames the bulls, not the media. no one. but agrees, that if not ready, Rose should sit out.

"The Bulls haven’t pushed Rose back onto the court prematurely. But they did throw him under the bus, announcing in February that he had been medically cleared to play. “I don’t want to be critical of the Bulls, but I wish they just said, ‘Look, he’s out,’” Hill said."

Like I keep saying, most of this shit would be an issue if Rose just flat out said he can't return this seasons because he is still working on some issues on the court, rather than keeping himself out by saying he can be back at anytime.

Apparently no one on the bulls, and no one in Rose's camp understands this.

this shit isn't an issue. illogical fans and the media makes it an issue. Rose comes back, when Rose come back.

#TheEnd

but ppl who ain't doin nothin, always want somethng to bitch about
 
Bawse D.Lox;5801801 said:
this shit isn't an issue. illogical fans and the media makes it an issue. Rose comes back, when Rose come back.

#TheEnd

but ppl who ain't doin nothin, always want somethng to bitch about

Exactly.

This some #newnigga shit.

Since when did men enjoy gossip. "OMGZ what rose gonna do???!?!" fuckin fags move on
 
coop9889;5801584 said:
Nah dude, we gon agree to disagree, Im done in this thread.

Its to the point im just repeating myself which means there's no need to continue. Plus I dont give 2 fucks about him or the bulls im just debating for the sake of debate.

Point is, the media created the hype, it backfired cuz dude aint coming back, now everybody crucifying him when this wouldn't even be that big of a topic had espn not ran it at a tebow-esque level.

that is not 100% true the comments of reggie rose created allot of the shit going on now. So does rose practicing full speed but not playing. Also if rose said hes shut down for the year and didn't practice full speed publicly but just privately this would be a non issue.

 
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Bawse D.Lox;5801758 said:
BoldChild;5801732 said:
stephen a

"Rose is keeping this alive because he refuses to say no, I'll be in Chicago tonight, if I see him I'm going to ask him."

^ By that I don't know if stephen a was saying he is going to ask him if he is going to play, or why he refuses to say no.

the media is keeping it alive, cause they keep talking about it every single day.

And they would stop if he gave a final answer.

Whether it's d rose or someone else, the media is going to do their job, if he keeps saying he can come back at anytime, they gonna keep asking him if he is planning on coming back up until the bulls get eliminated.

Yall can keep arguing that people should take Rose's indecisiveness as an answer, but the media going to do they job, don't blame this on them when rose can shut it all down with a simple statement, he did this to himself, with some help from his brother, the bulls organization, and Adidas.

Like I said, not all answers are good ones.
 
Rose don't owe anybody anything really...although he did open himself up to criticism by not being straightforward....I think in his own weird ass way he wants the media to keep his name in their mouths whether good or bad cause he knew from day 1 he wasn't gonna come back this year IMO...

With that said, its not fair to compare his injury to Shumperts injury....its easy to compare them just to shit on Rose but to be fair Shumpert doesn't play like Rose...Rose's strength is speed and weaving through defenses (and not getting enough foul calls for it)...u can't tell a nigga who goes harder than anybody else with that style of play that he's ready cause the doctors cleared him it aint that simple.....then u got examples of players Coming back too early....looks like a no brainer to me
 
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