Grant Hill's advice for Derrick Rose critics

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Niggas said lebron was mentally weak/no killer instinct then what happened.....?

Niggas dont know wtf they talking bout. Yall saying he mentally weak based off what the media say.
 
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The story about rose being shook of needles is true.He needed stitches in the 08 final four and was about to cry

You see, Rose has a fear of needles. No, make that a debilitating phobia of them.

He was told he needed as many as four stitches to close up a gash above his right eye after a collision during Memphis' 92-74 win over Michigan State on Friday in the South Regional semifinal.

That news ruined any celebration he had in mind after scoring a game-high 27 points despite missing almost eight minutes in the second half dealing with the injury.

Rose came stalking out of the locker room, yelling, ranting and on the verge of tears. He only calmed down when team officials agreed to glue the cut and forget the stitches.

"I'm terrified of needles," he said. "If I would have got stitches, they would have had to stick a needle right above my eye. So I was pouting, stormed out of the locker room. I was mad."


Rose, who is averaging 14 points per game, isn't sure what brought on this fear, but he vividly remembers an event from his childhood that didn't help.

When he was 7, he fell off his bicycle and another child ran over his head with a bike, causing a large wound on the back of his head.

"The nurses at the hospital were holding him down and he was so scared he broke away from them and got up," his mother, Brenda Rose, said in a phone interview. "So they had to tape him to the gurney and do the stitches. He was mad at everyone that day."

But he remembers being miffed at one person in particular.

"My mother helped them strap me down and I was mad at her because she did that," he said.

Considering his problem, some may find it strange that Rose has five tattoos, some rather elaborate.

"You really never see the needle," he explained. "You just see an object that is going back and forth. With a needle, you've got to look at it and, man, it's totally different."

Regardless of his reasoning, his mother still doesn't understand.

"I can't figure that one out, either," she said. "I asked him how he could get a tattoo and he said, 'Those are not going into the skin; they're just tapping."'

So does he get any, well, needling from his teammates because of the phobia? Chris Douglas-Roberts said there are several players with similar fears and that he joined Rose in refusing to get a flu shot this season because of his own wariness.
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coop9889;5798689 said:
Niggas said lebron was mentally weak/no killer instinct then what happened.....?

Niggas dont know wtf they talking bout. Yall saying he mentally weak based off what the media say.

well bron is mentally weak. he left cleveland to click up with another nigga to win rings.

 
IamtheVILLE;5798763 said:
coop9889;5798689 said:
Niggas said lebron was mentally weak/no killer instinct then what happened.....?

Niggas dont know wtf they talking bout. Yall saying he mentally weak based off what the media say.

well bron is mentally weak. he left cleveland to click up with another nigga to win rings.

Lol troll

 
He clearly has a phobia of needles. Niggas who don't have phobias won't understand. Having a phobia doesnt mean you are mentally weak.
 
B.BeST;5797552 said:
@BlackxChild because a man is extra cautious and aware of the circumstances of being rushed back against his will doesn't make him weak minded..... IT MAKES HIM A MAN.

fuck what the fans/ownership/team thinks, thats what got grant hill and penny hardaway threw in the bushes, u go with your own instincts, its all about self preservation in the end....

He is not being rushed back, he is just taking an extra long break/recovery

Being rushed back would be them trying to get him to play as soon as the doctors cleared him. The time for "being rushed back" has long passed. After the doctors cleared rose, and he said he wasn't ready yet, no one was tripping at all, even though shumpert and Rubio had returned. They didn't start tripping until half the bulls was missing arms and legs, and Derrick kept saying, "You never know, I might come back", instead of just flat out saying he wont be returning this season.

Like I said in another thread, if there is still issues with his actual knee, then he needs to go to another doctor and have it looked at, because something ain't right. Which is not the case, since Derrick, and everyone in his camp have recently been saying his knee is fine, and he is just dealing with his mindset.

This situation between Grant Hill and Derrick Rose or two different situations, Derrick had a diagnosed injury, and was treated with surgery and rehab, Grant Hill went to the trainers and they pretty much said, "nah, you aight, just throw some ice on it", and he never got the problem diagnosed, or treated, and eventually his ankle gave.
 
My issue is if derrick rose doesn't wanna come back for health reasons (even if hes cleared) then say it. When this nigga said he had confidence issues that is what is alarming. If its a confidence issue than hes on the wrong team. Niggas who were bench players playing all 48 mins. Noah hurt as fuck but he playing through that shit. Nate robinson is 2 inches shorter than me and he going up against bigs in the paint laying it in.

Niggas hate on durant lebron and the rest of the new school for being too "soft" bitching about fouls and shit. But when derrick rose is playing in practice full speed but he ain't een got "confidence" some people give him a pass. Rose can do what he wants with his body but when you wanna be a star player but lack confidence its concertning. When you wanna practice all day full speed scrimmage and not give 1 min on the game then you lose my respect and nba players respect.
 
If he lacks confidence then sit your monkey ass down and say you're done for the year instead of being a daily distraction

It's been 12 months damn near to the day he had surgery.The bulls advancing in the 1st round is a nightmare for duke cuz now the excuses look corny,low key we know he wanted the bulls to lose in the 1st round.Shumpert out here skying on tip dunks while rose still aint ready
 
Its funny that everyone is blaming derrick rose for being a distraction.

Its the announcers, the espn analysts, the fans that keep bringing it up.

He doesnt HAVE TO say shit.

Everybody else keep talking bout him, how many times does he have to say "I dont know when im coming back"
 
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Rose can say "I won't return this year.I don't feel comfortable enough to play yet I'll return in october when training camp/preseason starts" Story Over

Nah he rather say "I dont know, I might,It's up in the air only god knows" so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him.He's talked about just as much as the nets were and the heat are.Duke is a major distraction
 
Although there's a possibility Friday he could, to me I think its safe to say that DR is out this year.

I agree that the media will play this story of his return to the ground really until he makes a vocal

decision. They are what is making this even a story in the first place, especially when you have your

team getting blown out. IMO I think the personnel that are in the game now are what the Bulls have

to look at, and Nate and Noah are putting the team on their backs right now, so give them that credit.

 
Tommy bilfiger;5798966 said:
Rose can say "I won't return this year.I don't feel comfortable enough to play yet I'll return in october when training camp/preseason starts" Story Over

Nah he rather say "I dont know, I might,It's up in the air only god knows" so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him.He's talked about just as much as the nets were and the heat are.Duke is a major distraction

He could say that, but what if he really does want to play this postseason but doesnt know when he'll come back?

"so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him"

^

That is MORE of the media/fans fault than his. Wouldn't have the problem if people stopped asking.
 
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coop9889;5798921 said:
Its funny that everyone is blaming derrick rose for being a distraction.

Its the announcers, the espn analysts, the fans that keep bringing it up.

He doesnt HAVE TO say shit.

Everybody else keep talking bout him, how many times does he have to say "I dont know when im coming back"

true the media eating up the story. but media aside how distracting do you think it is for players working they ass off in practice and derrick rose is there going full speed in drills and scrimmages then when they facing the top seeded heat hes in suit and tie. Im not saying he shouldn't practice all im saying is go to shoot around and take it light if you don't want to "risk" anything. Don't give your all in practice then pussy out for the game.
 
Monizzle14;5799050 said:
true the media eating up the story. but media aside how distracting do you think it is for players working they ass off in practice and derrick rose is there going full speed in drills and scrimmages then when they facing the top seeded heat hes in suit and tie. Im not saying he shouldn't practice all im saying is go to shoot around and take it light if you don't want to "risk" anything. Don't give your all in practice then pussy out for the game.

NOBODY knows except the players. Everyone else is making ASSUMPTIONS.

All I know is that whenever teammates are asked, they always take Rose's side and defend him. So therefore all the distractions and feelings yall claim about the teammates have no basis.

Just misguided assumptions.
 
coop9889;5799032 said:
Tommy bilfiger;5798966 said:
Rose can say "I won't return this year.I don't feel comfortable enough to play yet I'll return in october when training camp/preseason starts" Story Over

Nah he rather say "I dont know, I might,It's up in the air only god knows" so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him.He's talked about just as much as the nets were and the heat are.Duke is a major distraction

He could say that, but what if he really does want to play this postseason but doesnt know when he'll come back?

"so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him"

^

That is MORE of the media/fans fault than his. Wouldn't have the problem if people stopped asking.

This logic is dumb.The media's job is to ask questions,report things,stir the pot.If Rose said he's not returning then story is over period
 
Tommy bilfiger;5799097 said:
coop9889;5799032 said:
Tommy bilfiger;5798966 said:
Rose can say "I won't return this year.I don't feel comfortable enough to play yet I'll return in october when training camp/preseason starts" Story Over

Nah he rather say "I dont know, I might,It's up in the air only god knows" so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him.He's talked about just as much as the nets were and the heat are.Duke is a major distraction

He could say that, but what if he really does want to play this postseason but doesnt know when he'll come back?

"so now thibs has to answer questions daily,noah and other teammates have to defend him"

^

That is MORE of the media/fans fault than his. Wouldn't have the problem if people stopped asking.

This logic is dumb.The media's job is to ask questions,report things,stir the pot.If Rose said he's not returning then story is over period

It aint dumb cuz he already answered the question once. "I DONT KNOW WHEN IM COMING BACK". Story should've been over then. They keep prodding and questioning and hoping and bitching.

Point being it is not Rose's fault that everyone is talking about Rose. He isnt OBLIGATED to do shit but come back on his own terms.

The media is creating this hype about him coming back. Therefore it's the media's fault that there are high hopes of him coming back. < That is undeniable.
 
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coop9889;5798921 said:
Its funny that everyone is blaming derrick rose for being a distraction.

Its the announcers, the espn analysts, the fans that keep bringing it up.

He doesnt HAVE TO say shit.

Everybody else keep talking bout him, how many times does he have to say "I dont know when im coming back"

They keep asking them because he keeps responding with, "It depends on how I feel, I could come back at anytime." When he says that, of course they are going to keep asking him, "So, any plans on coming back for the next game?"

If he responded with, "I'm am not at 100% yet, and will not be returning this season", they would stop asking him that question.
 
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