Grant Hill's advice for Derrick Rose critics

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BoldChild;5799162 said:
They keep asking them because he keeps responding with, "It depends on how I feel, I could come back at anytime." When he says that, of course they are going to keep asking him, "So, any plans on coming back for the next game?"

If he responded with, "I'm am not at 100% yet, and will not be returning this season", they would stop asking him that question.

That would be correct, if it were truly the case.

But why should he be obligated to say that if that is not how he feels?

The thing is, now everyone is assuming he is 100% not coming back. But that's not the case.
 
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D. Rose playing would not make a difference in the Bulls beating the Heat or any other team if they somehow pull off the upset.....he's already said he doesnt know, the coaches have said they dont know, the players pretty much said they dont care either way....the media is the ONLY reason this is even a big deal

It's clearly a mental issue that only he can take of and instead of thinking about this season he is thinking about his entire CAREER which is far from over...the doctors have done thier part, the coaches/management have done thier part(although Thibs or Pax could've done the obvious and just shut him down for the year a long time ago) and it's all on him and unlike Shumpert or Legler or anybody else they wanna throw out there that had a similar injury he is THE FRANCHISE(which is where the Hill injury comes into context and makes sense)....let the boy breath and continue rehabbing and stop worrying about it cuz the team for the most has clearly moved on
 
BlackxChild;5797490 said:
2 different injuries 2 diffrent time tables Rose was cleared 2 months Legler had 2 acl tears and said it seemed like Rose is trying to come back 100% and Legler said that's not going to happen and that Rose just has to go out and get use to a new normal and adjust his body to what happened.

He said roses issues are most likely all mental especially if he's warming up before games in front of your face. Imon Shumpert came back and had his injury around the same time. This just shows Derrick Rose is mentally weak the guy literally cries at the sight of needles. Derrick Rose actually is weak minded.

Nigga had that nasty dunk the other night...WHOOOOO!!!
 
coop9889;5799176 said:
BoldChild;5799162 said:
They keep asking them because he keeps responding with, "It depends on how I feel, I could come back at anytime." When he says that, of course they are going to keep asking him, "So, any plans on coming back for the next game?"

If he responded with, "I'm am not at 100% yet, and will not be returning this season", they would stop asking him that question.

That would be correct, if it were truly the case.

But why should he be obligated to say that if that is not how he feels?

The thing is, now everyone is assuming he is 100% not coming back. But that's not the case.

Because saying that doesn't prevent him from coming back if he suddenly decided to change his mind, but as it is now, it looks like he is not coming back despite what he says, and that's why he is currently receiving all of this flack. Whether it's intentional or not, he is stringing people along.

If the bulls are on the verge of being knocked out off the playoffs, and he keeps responding with "I might come back", of course people are going to pressure him
 
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and that's just not a d rose or a sports thing, that's with anything.

If a deadline to something is approaching, and you keep responding with, "I don't know if I'm going to do it", that would annoy anyone.

I would imagine his teammates aren't bothered with it because they already know d rose isn't coming back. (based off Noah's comments, he sort of implied it)
 
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This capin ass nigga tryna blame the media instead holdin the indecisive nigga who can shut down any more questions about when he's returning accountable foh wit that dumb ass logic
 
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Tommy bilfiger;5799237 said:
This capin ass nigga tryna blame the media instead holdin the indecisive nigga who can shut down any more questions about when he's returning accountable foh wit that dumb ass logic

Well how bout the motherfuckas who are so emotional just stop giving a fuck about it?

What does it matter if he shuts down the questions or not? "He's a distraction" If he really a distraction to the team by just telling the pressed media how he feels, then the whole team mentally weak for letting this irrelevant ass shit affect them so much.

No wonder them bums got beat by 100 last night then.
 
BoldChild;5799228 said:
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and that's just not a d rose or a sports thing, that's with anything.

If a deadline to something is approaching, and you keep responding with, "I don't know if I'm going to do it", that would annoy anyone.

I would imagine his teammates aren't bothered with it because they already know d rose isn't coming back. (based off Noah's comments, he sort of implied it)

You said it right there.

If his teammates aren't bothered by it (meaning it ISNT a distraction) then this whole thing is just a craze by the fans and media over nothing.

Niggas need to chill let him do him. He dont owe niggas shit and fans and media lookin mad pressed for an answer the nigga already gave.

 
This mentality starts early. These nggas think life is one big 'signing day': Nggas make all they decisons like they got 3 hats on the table.

This one. Ooops, no, no, this one.
 
coop9889;5799288 said:
BoldChild;5799228 said:
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and that's just not a d rose or a sports thing, that's with anything.

If a deadline to something is approaching, and you keep responding with, "I don't know if I'm going to do it", that would annoy anyone.

I would imagine his teammates aren't bothered with it because they already know d rose isn't coming back. (based off Noah's comments, he sort of implied it)

You said it right there.

If his teammates aren't bothered by it (meaning it ISNT a distraction) then this whole thing is just a craze by the fans and media over nothing.

Niggas need to chill let him do him. He dont owe niggas shit and fans and media lookin mad pressed for an answer the nigga already gave.

No, I said his teammates probably aren't bothered by it because they already know he is not coming back for a fact, while the fans do not. That is the difference, if he outright told the fans he wont be back this season as well, most will probably drop the issue as well.

 
Valentinez A. Kaiser Posts: 2,312

May 7

D.Rose is bitchmade

He needs to just say he's out and stop drawing attention away from the players who've actually put in the work all season and so far in the playoffs.

Every fucking Bulls game always has his injury status discussed, "will he play or won't he?" Same shit will happen on Wednesday, answer will be "he ain't ready". Same shit will happen on Friday, answer will be "not yet". Same shit will happen on Monday, answer will be "soon". SMH

I said this 2 days ago in the NBA thread.

At the end of the day, it should have been deaded from time ago with a simple comment like this:

"I ain't ready mentally this season to compete given the extent of the injury, but come next season I'll be good to go"

And if he came back earlier than expected, it would have been looked at as a gift or blessing.... shit it may even be seen as him showing tenacity to get back in there and be down for the team.
 
BoldChild;5799328 said:
coop9889;5799288 said:
BoldChild;5799228 said:
Additionally

and that's just not a d rose or a sports thing, that's with anything.

If a deadline to something is approaching, and you keep responding with, "I don't know if I'm going to do it", that would annoy anyone.

I would imagine his teammates aren't bothered with it because they already know d rose isn't coming back. (based off Noah's comments, he sort of implied it)

You said it right there.

If his teammates aren't bothered by it (meaning it ISNT a distraction) then this whole thing is just a craze by the fans and media over nothing.

Niggas need to chill let him do him. He dont owe niggas shit and fans and media lookin mad pressed for an answer the nigga already gave.

No, I said his teammates probably aren't bothered by it because they already know he is not coming back for a fact, while the fans do not. That is the difference, if he outright told the fans he wont be back this season as well, most will probably drop the issue as well.

Well none of his teammates have expressed that so you are going off assumptions.

And my entire point is, he isnt obligated to do or say shit. He is not the one that started this craze and already answered with "I dont know". That should've been enough. Everything else after that is extra BS from fans and media.
 
Valentinez A. Kaiser;5799332 said:
Valentinez A. Kaiser Posts: 2,312

May 7

D.Rose is bitchmade

He needs to just say he's out and stop drawing attention away from the players who've actually put in the work all season and so far in the playoffs.

Every fucking Bulls game always has his injury status discussed, "will he play or won't he?" Same shit will happen on Wednesday, answer will be "he ain't ready". Same shit will happen on Friday, answer will be "not yet". Same shit will happen on Monday, answer will be "soon". SMH

I said this 2 days ago in the NBA thread.

At the end of the day, it should have been deaded from time ago with a simple comment like this:

"I ain't ready mentally this season to compete given the extent of the injury, but come next season I'll be good to go"

And if he came back earlier than expected, it would have been looked at as a gift or blessing.... shit it may even be seen as him showing tenacity to get back in there and be down for the team.

No, if he said that yall would kill him. How do I know? Cuz yall ALREADY DID for saying some similar siht.

 
bottom line is D.Rose is right.. fuck "team doctors" their focus on on the team (that pays them) not tthe player. like i said last week in one of these other threads was D.Rose fucked up in one way. he should have not be leading everyone on with

the i might be back . "God Knows when" bullshit..He shoulda have said like others have said in this thread/ "Ill be back next year", and when/if it got brought up again, tell em i already said im not coming back

fuck tyring to make everyone happy... be real and be firm.. everyone is not gon like u cuz its that simple
 
coop9889;5799369 said:
BoldChild;5799328 said:
coop9889;5799288 said:
BoldChild;5799228 said:
Additionally

and that's just not a d rose or a sports thing, that's with anything.

If a deadline to something is approaching, and you keep responding with, "I don't know if I'm going to do it", that would annoy anyone.

I would imagine his teammates aren't bothered with it because they already know d rose isn't coming back. (based off Noah's comments, he sort of implied it)

You said it right there.

If his teammates aren't bothered by it (meaning it ISNT a distraction) then this whole thing is just a craze by the fans and media over nothing.

Niggas need to chill let him do him. He dont owe niggas shit and fans and media lookin mad pressed for an answer the nigga already gave.

No, I said his teammates probably aren't bothered by it because they already know he is not coming back for a fact, while the fans do not. That is the difference, if he outright told the fans he wont be back this season as well, most will probably drop the issue as well.

Well none of his teammates have expressed that so you are going off assumptions.

And my entire point is, he isnt obligated to do or say shit. He is not the one that started this craze and already answered with "I dont know". That should've been enough. Everything else after that is extra BS from fans and media.

Not all answers are good ones. I don't care all that much though, doesn't bother me if Rose jacks up his PR, not my problem.

You're right, he isn't obligated to say or do shit, but just because you're not obligated to do something doesn't mean you're immune to any kind of questioning or scrutiny. He is the one who started this craze, well, to be more specific, Rose, Adidas's marketing team, and the bulls organization are the one who started this craze.

1.First Adidas did all that "The Return" promo.

2. Then, like Chuck mentioned, the bulls, and coach Thib continually say Rose looks good in practice, and the doctors have mentioned he is cleared to play, and even advised him to do so. Yes, returning back to normal physical activity is part of rehab, it would probably solve the "muscle memory" problem he has been having, but I don't know anything about his body(nh), so I wont comment on that anymore.

3. He is now stringing people along saying, "who knows, I could come back at anytime", even though we are in the playoffs, and the bulls are getting closer to elimination. The bulls got about 4 games left, it's about time for him to just flat out say he is not coming back.
 
coop9889;5799067 said:
Monizzle14;5799050 said:
true the media eating up the story. but media aside how distracting do you think it is for players working they ass off in practice and derrick rose is there going full speed in drills and scrimmages then when they facing the top seeded heat hes in suit and tie. Im not saying he shouldn't practice all im saying is go to shoot around and take it light if you don't want to "risk" anything. Don't give your all in practice then pussy out for the game.

NOBODY knows except the players. Everyone else is making ASSUMPTIONS.

All I know is that whenever teammates are asked, they always take Rose's side and defend him. So therefore all the distractions and feelings yall claim about the teammates have no basis.

Just misguided assumptions.

Regardless of what they say to the media or how the bulls feel as a nigga who played orginized sports it aint right. I have also heard former players and Coaches in between jobs on radio cosign what i said in my last post. When your a teammate and your hurting and your fighting flu bugs like some bulls injuries like other bulls and still getting on the floor. But at the same time the nigga who if he quit basketball today would be set financially for life wont risk his injury he cleared on thats some bullshit.

These bench players playing 48 mins could be cut or never get another pro shot in 2 or 3 years. Derrick Rose makes as much money in endorsements as 2 bench players combined in certain cases. But these niggas giving 100% on the court not having "confidence issues". This nigga is cheating his teammates he is cheating the Bulls Front office and cheating his fans by giving his all in practice but not being final on his choice for this season. He need to officially announce he wont come back or announce he will return for the rest of the playoffs.
 
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