God's Son vs Get Rich Or Die Trying

[power_wisdom]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

No cause 50 started doing the rap duets himself. And you're wrong about no albums changing hip-hop. 3 Feet high and Rising had niggas putting skits in their albums. Sex Packets, Bizarre ride to da Pharcyde and I miss my brother George made it ok to not be a gangsta rapper on the west coast. Illmatic was the first album produced by a bunch of super producers. Paid in full changed how rapper rapped. All eyes on me started the double disc trend. All these things impacted hip-hop. I'm not saying GRODT not a classic. I'm say impact alone doesn't equal classic album.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

i dont ever remember an album with the hype GRODT had

 

[5 Grand]

The way I remember it, The Nas vs Jay beef was still going strong. People were still debating Takeover vs Ether. For the first time, when you asked, "who is your favorite rapper of all time?" people were saying either Nas or Jay. Prior to the beef if you asked the same question you might get KRS, Rakim, Snoop, 2Pac or Big. But after the beef both MCs (Jay and Nas) got propelled to another tier. They were the best rappers alive. They had a classic battle and then continued to make records, unlike Pac and Big who died in the middle of a beef that never got settled.

Anybody who was into Hip Hop at the time was more interested in what Nas's next record was going to sound like than what Eminem, 50 Cent and Dre were doing. I'm talking about my generation, the people that copped Illmatic when it first came out. The people who heard Illmatic before It Was Written. I'm talking about the people that remembered THE HYPE LEADING UP TO ILLMATIC. We heard Stillmatic and Lost Tapes and we were anxious to hear what Nas was going to do next. 50 Cent was an afterthought.

God's son came out 2 months before GRODT....and people were super excited to see what 50 could do on that album....you are not remembering that time very well...50 was running hip hop, he had the mixtapes and the album that everyone was anticipating....when that album leaked on the internet I remember ppl sitting in their crib downloading it as soon as they got word

Sure ppl wanted to hear what nas had to say after stillmatic but it was a blip on the radar compared to 50's album

Maybe your demographic/generation but I was about 29 years old when God's Son and GRODT came out. The difference is that I remembered Nas from Illmatic. I was around 20 when Illmatic dropped. I was 12 when Raising Hell came out. I remember going to Strawberries to cop it on the first day it came out. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen many albums that had hype equal to GRODT. People in their late 20s/early 30s didn't care about 50 Cent or his hype any more than people in their late 20s/early 30s care about Drake and his hype now. Older people were more curious what Nas had to say.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

Nosign

I can name 10 albums that "changed" Hip Hop from the 80s but you wouldn't remember.

I'm not talkin about the first rap albums ever made bro.

Neither am I.

But you should listen to those early Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash albums that came out in the early 80s, then listen to Run DMC's self titled album that came out in 1984. That was a game changer.

Then listen to Whodini's Escape that came out in 1984. That was a game changer

Listen to Radio and Bigger and Deffer, they came out in 1985 and 1987 respectively.

Then listen to Criminal Minded and Paid In Full. They both came out in the summer of 1987.

Then Listen to It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back. It came out the summer of 1988.

Then listen to Three Feet High and Rising and Paul's Boutique. They both came out in 1989.

I just named 10 Hip Hop albums that changed the landscape of Hip Hop waaaaaay more drastically than GRODT. And most of em came out before Straight Outta Compton.

 

[Stew]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

No cause 50 started doing the rap duets himself. And you're wrong about no albums changing hip-hop. 3 Feet high and Rising had niggas putting skits in their albums. Sex Packets, Bizarre ride to da Pharcyde and I miss my brother George made it ok to not be a gangsta rapper on the west coast. Illmatic was the first album produced by a bunch of super producers. Paid in full changed how rapper rapped. All eyes on me started the double disc trend. All these things impacted hip-hop. I'm not saying GRODT not a classic. I'm say impact alone doesn't equal classic album.

Then the point of this argument is moot then cause God's Son is not a classic and Nas is the GOAT imo anyway. Its classic because of quality and impact, nobody with a credible opinion names classics just off of impact otherwise MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice would have one.

 

[power_wisdom]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

 

[Stew]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

 

[power_wisdom]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

No cause 50 started doing the rap duets himself. And you're wrong about no albums changing hip-hop. 3 Feet high and Rising had niggas putting skits in their albums. Sex Packets, Bizarre ride to da Pharcyde and I miss my brother George made it ok to not be a gangsta rapper on the west coast. Illmatic was the first album produced by a bunch of super producers. Paid in full changed how rapper rapped. All eyes on me started the double disc trend. All these things impacted hip-hop. I'm not saying GRODT not a classic. I'm say impact alone doesn't equal classic album.

Then the point of this argument is moot then cause God's Son is not a classic and Nas is the GOAT imo anyway. Its classic because of quality and impact, nobody with a credible opinion names classics just off of impact otherwise MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice would have one.

God Son was high quality and more substance than GRODT. Why do you feel it's not a classic? Dope production, check. Dope Lyrics. Check. Substance in the content. Check. Bangers. Check. Good Stories telling . Check. Songs for the ladies, check. Good album structure. Can listen to it today and not feel dated. And over 95% of the album flawless. Personally I thing all the songs are dope. What did it lack to you?

 

[5 Grand]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

 

[5 Grand]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

No cause 50 started doing the rap duets himself. And you're wrong about no albums changing hip-hop. 3 Feet high and Rising had niggas putting skits in their albums. Sex Packets, Bizarre ride to da Pharcyde and I miss my brother George made it ok to not be a gangsta rapper on the west coast. Illmatic was the first album produced by a bunch of super producers. Paid in full changed how rapper rapped. All eyes on me started the double disc trend. All these things impacted hip-hop. I'm not saying GRODT not a classic. I'm say impact alone doesn't equal classic album.

Then the point of this argument is moot then cause God's Son is not a classic and Nas is the GOAT imo anyway. Its classic because of quality and impact, nobody with a credible opinion names classics just off of impact otherwise MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice would have one.

God Son was high quality and more substance than GRODT. Why do you feel it's not a classic? Dope production, check. Dope Lyrics. Check. Substance in the content. Check. Bangers. Check. Good Stories telling . Check. Songs for the ladies, check. Good album structure. Can listen to it today and not feel dated. And over 95% of the album flawless. Personally I thing all the songs are dope. What did it lack to you?

Cosign.

I think Nas is on a different tier than 50.

50 can't do what Nas does but Nas can do what 50 does.

 

[power_wisdom]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

What he said @Stew .

 

[power_wisdom]

i dont ever remember an album with the hype GRODT had

Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Chronic 2001, Can i bus although it didn't live up to the hype. It was written. Life after death, Wu-tang Forever.

 

[5 Grand]

i dont ever remember an album with the hype GRODT had

Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Chronic 2001, Can i bus although it didn't live up to the hype. It was written. Life after death, Wu-tang Forever.

Busta Rhymes had a big hype for his first album. He was blowing up on posse jams, remixes and mix tapes. His album was cool but it didn't have that chart topping club banger that GRODT had.

Maybe Busta should have worked with different producers.

 

[Stew]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again. Ask Stat Quo how that went

 

[5 Grand]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again.

Strawman argument.

But you can't tell me that Eminem's first album would have sold 283,000 copies in its opening week if it wasn't for Dr Dre. The SSLP album went 4X Plat. Without the Dre connection SSLP wouldn't have even gone gold. It would have sold the same as Infinite.

 

[power_wisdom]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again. Ask Stat Quo how that went

Did Stat Quo put out a album with Aftermath? Just about every artist who put out a project on Aftermath went Platinum.

 

[Stew]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again.

Strawman argument.

But you can't tell me that Eminem's first album would have sold 283,000 copies in its opening week if it wasn't for Dr Dre. The SSLP album went 4X Plat. Without the Dre connection SSLP wouldn't have even gone gold. It would have sold the same as Infinite.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again. Ask Stat Quo how that went

Did Stat Quo put out a album with Aftermath? Just about every artist who put out a project on Aftermath went Platinum.

Nigga both of yall told me he sold that much cause of Em and Dre. Who else affiliated with Shady/Aftermath did those kinda numbers? D12? Game? Obie? They all had albums full of Em and Dre appearances and had the "Machine" behind them just like 50 did.

 

[5 Grand]

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again.

Strawman argument.

But you can't tell me that Eminem's first album would have sold 283,000 copies in its opening week if it wasn't for Dr Dre. The SSLP album went 4X Plat. Without the Dre connection SSLP wouldn't have even gone gold. It would have sold the same as Infinite.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

And X came out in 98 and fell off about 02. (Really 03. Grand Camp went 4 Platinum) 50 dropped in 03. Between then we had Mobb deep, Lox, Ghostface, Big Pun, Fat Joe, Nas and Jay-z make big street records. Hip-hop was still street. 50 didn't bring back nothing. The only nigga doing Rap and Bullshit was JaRule.

So how did he sell so many records?

He was cosigned by Em and Dre.

Without Em and Dre GRODT would be 1X Plat

So this means everybody associated with Em and Dre goes almost diamond right? Try again. Ask Stat Quo how that went

Did Stat Quo put out a album with Aftermath? Just about every artist who put out a project on Aftermath went Platinum.

Nigga both of yall told me he sold that much cause of Em and Dre. Who else affiliated with Shady/Aftermath did those kinda numbers? D12? Game? Obie? They all had albums full of Em and Dre appearances and had the "Machine" behind them just like 50 did.

Lets be honest. Do you think GRODT would have sold as much without Dre and Eminem?

 

[bck145]

The way I remember it, The Nas vs Jay beef was still going strong. People were still debating Takeover vs Ether. For the first time, when you asked, "who is your favorite rapper of all time?" people were saying either Nas or Jay. Prior to the beef if you asked the same question you might get KRS, Rakim, Snoop, 2Pac or Big. But after the beef both MCs (Jay and Nas) got propelled to another tier. They were the best rappers alive. They had a classic battle and then continued to make records, unlike Pac and Big who died in the middle of a beef that never got settled.

Anybody who was into Hip Hop at the time was more interested in what Nas's next record was going to sound like than what Eminem, 50 Cent and Dre were doing. I'm talking about my generation, the people that copped Illmatic when it first came out. The people who heard Illmatic before It Was Written. I'm talking about the people that remembered THE HYPE LEADING UP TO ILLMATIC. We heard Stillmatic and Lost Tapes and we were anxious to hear what Nas was going to do next. 50 Cent was an afterthought.

God's son came out 2 months before GRODT....and people were super excited to see what 50 could do on that album....you are not remembering that time very well...50 was running hip hop, he had the mixtapes and the album that everyone was anticipating....when that album leaked on the internet I remember ppl sitting in their crib downloading it as soon as they got word

Sure ppl wanted to hear what nas had to say after stillmatic but it was a blip on the radar compared to 50's album

Maybe your demographic/generation but I was about 29 years old when God's Son and GRODT came out. The difference is that I remembered Nas from Illmatic. I was around 20 when Illmatic dropped. I was 12 when Raising Hell came out. I remember going to Strawberries to cop it on the first day it came out. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen many albums that had hype equal to GRODT. People in their late 20s/early 30s didn't care about 50 Cent or his hype any more than people in their late 20s/early 30s care about Drake and his hype now. Older people were more curious what Nas had to say.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

Nosign

I can name 10 albums that "changed" Hip Hop from the 80s but you wouldn't remember.

Your in the minority on that one....i know a ton of late 20's and early 30's ppl really anticipating grodt.....you couldn't go anywhere that winter or spring without hearing the album

God's son is a good album...but that album and blueprint 2 both got swept under the rug in anticipation to 50's release

 

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The way I remember it, The Nas vs Jay beef was still going strong. People were still debating Takeover vs Ether. For the first time, when you asked, "who is your favorite rapper of all time?" people were saying either Nas or Jay. Prior to the beef if you asked the same question you might get KRS, Rakim, Snoop, 2Pac or Big. But after the beef both MCs (Jay and Nas) got propelled to another tier. They were the best rappers alive. They had a classic battle and then continued to make records, unlike Pac and Big who died in the middle of a beef that never got settled.

Anybody who was into Hip Hop at the time was more interested in what Nas's next record was going to sound like than what Eminem, 50 Cent and Dre were doing. I'm talking about my generation, the people that copped Illmatic when it first came out. The people who heard Illmatic before It Was Written. I'm talking about the people that remembered THE HYPE LEADING UP TO ILLMATIC. We heard Stillmatic and Lost Tapes and we were anxious to hear what Nas was going to do next. 50 Cent was an afterthought.

God's son came out 2 months before GRODT....and people were super excited to see what 50 could do on that album....you are not remembering that time very well...50 was running hip hop, he had the mixtapes and the album that everyone was anticipating....when that album leaked on the internet I remember ppl sitting in their crib downloading it as soon as they got word

Sure ppl wanted to hear what nas had to say after stillmatic but it was a blip on the radar compared to 50's album

Maybe your demographic/generation but I was about 29 years old when God's Son and GRODT came out. The difference is that I remembered Nas from Illmatic. I was around 20 when Illmatic dropped. I was 12 when Raising Hell came out. I remember going to Strawberries to cop it on the first day it came out. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen many albums that had hype equal to GRODT. People in their late 20s/early 30s didn't care about 50 Cent or his hype any more than people in their late 20s/early 30s care about Drake and his hype now. Older people were more curious what Nas had to say.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

Nosign

I can name 10 albums that "changed" Hip Hop from the 80s but you wouldn't remember.

Your in the minority on that one....i know a ton of late 20's and early 30's ppl really anticipating grodt.....you couldn't go anywhere that winter or spring without hearing the album

God's son is a good album...but that album and blueprint 2 both got swept under the rug in anticipation to 50's release

I agree that I'm in the minority. But amongst my circle of friends, we were really anticipating both albums.

The difference is people that heard Illmatic before It Was Written vs people that heard It Was Written first. I'm the former. I liked Nas's style better on Illmatic. It Was Written was a letdown imo.

Anyway, there's a demographic of people that heard Illmatic first. People who were into Gang Starr, Boot Camp Click, Wu Tang and DITC. The other demographic are people that were bumping 2Pac, Biggie, Snoop, Bone Thugs, Coolio, Warren G, etc. basically the more commercial sounding rap.

 

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The way I remember it, The Nas vs Jay beef was still going strong. People were still debating Takeover vs Ether. For the first time, when you asked, "who is your favorite rapper of all time?" people were saying either Nas or Jay. Prior to the beef if you asked the same question you might get KRS, Rakim, Snoop, 2Pac or Big. But after the beef both MCs (Jay and Nas) got propelled to another tier. They were the best rappers alive. They had a classic battle and then continued to make records, unlike Pac and Big who died in the middle of a beef that never got settled.

Anybody who was into Hip Hop at the time was more interested in what Nas's next record was going to sound like than what Eminem, 50 Cent and Dre were doing. I'm talking about my generation, the people that copped Illmatic when it first came out. The people who heard Illmatic before It Was Written. I'm talking about the people that remembered THE HYPE LEADING UP TO ILLMATIC. We heard Stillmatic and Lost Tapes and we were anxious to hear what Nas was going to do next. 50 Cent was an afterthought.

God's son came out 2 months before GRODT....and people were super excited to see what 50 could do on that album....you are not remembering that time very well...50 was running hip hop, he had the mixtapes and the album that everyone was anticipating....when that album leaked on the internet I remember ppl sitting in their crib downloading it as soon as they got word

Sure ppl wanted to hear what nas had to say after stillmatic but it was a blip on the radar compared to 50's album

Maybe your demographic/generation but I was about 29 years old when God's Son and GRODT came out. The difference is that I remembered Nas from Illmatic. I was around 20 when Illmatic dropped. I was 12 when Raising Hell came out. I remember going to Strawberries to cop it on the first day it came out. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen many albums that had hype equal to GRODT. People in their late 20s/early 30s didn't care about 50 Cent or his hype any more than people in their late 20s/early 30s care about Drake and his hype now. Older people were more curious what Nas had to say.

Is God's son turning into the next it was written....where it didn't have an impact yet years later ppl are pretending it's a classic album?

When the last time and what album had impact in the the world or even hip hop community ?

GRODT

How did that album change hip-hop? Was it the album or 50Cent with his story about getting shot and his mixtape that change hip-hop?

Nobody said anything about "changing Hip Hop".

People are claiming on this thread a classic has to have impact. Impact is to have a effect. To effect something is to alter or change something.

No album "changed" Hip Hop other than maybe Straight Outta Compton. Theres always different sub-genres of the culture. It definitely impacted it cause once it came out all the rap duets(Ja Rule style) stopped happening and brought back "street" music that it was lacking since DMX, at least until he started doing it himself.

Nosign

I can name 10 albums that "changed" Hip Hop from the 80s but you wouldn't remember.

Your in the minority on that one....i know a ton of late 20's and early 30's ppl really anticipating grodt.....you couldn't go anywhere that winter or spring without hearing the album

God's son is a good album...but that album and blueprint 2 both got swept under the rug in anticipation to 50's release

I agree that I'm in the minority. But amongst my circle of friends, we were really anticipating both albums.

The difference is people that heard Illmatic before It Was Written vs people that heard It Was Written first. I'm the former. I liked Nas's style better on Illmatic. It Was Written was a letdown imo.

Anyway, there's a demographic of people that heard Illmatic first. People who were into Gang Starr, Boot Camp Click, Wu Tang and DITC. The other demographic are people that were bumping 2Pac, Biggie, Snoop, Bone Thugs, Coolio, Warren G, etc. basically the more commercial sounding rap.

If your in the minority and know you are then why are you trying to tell me that gods son was more anticipated than 50 at that time.....your circle may have been but say that from the start