Girl that raped a man at knifepoint, facing life, could be spared prison time.

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

excuse the repeated post

not trying to spam the thread

 

[jetlifebih]

@Westie

@Madame_CJSkywalker

Do y’all see what’s happening to our black men outchea at the hands of black women ????

*sigh*

wish I'd get the same passion from you and others when I try to bring attention to issues like the fact that for blk women 18-25 one of the top leading causes of death year after year is intimate partner homicide...meaning they are being killed by either their husbands boyfriends
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...coming-victims-of-homicidal-domestic-violence

what she did was horrible though

Would a black man get these type of charges dropped/lowered if the genders were switched??

if he pleaded no contest

the saginaw court system is overburdened like most others

the DA ain't trying to take nothing to trial, especially with both the victim and perp being blk

and actually the over whelming majority of criminal cases end in plea deals, lowered charges and charges being dropped

Leading cause of death for black women is heart disease. Stop lying.

She said “one of the top”

Which is true but we must dig into that because like I said that in itself tells the story of another issue because in the context of domestic violence and relationships...partners are agreed upon...we stopped arranged relationships ...now some relationships may end up arranged because of bills but the fact is women need to choose better partners....men do too

So we can theoretically say or tell men need to stop killing our women and they stop but they are not, so what can be done to slow this down that women have control of?? Choosing better mates...I don’t believe that at a rate like that...men are snapping and going insane after showing no signs of being capable of harming women, or that these guys are good actors and act like the perfect mate until they kill their mate...women are overlooking red flags for personal reasons that are back biting the shit out of them because they have been sold a dream not by us black men but by society

The stat she is listing is homicide. Homicide does not indicate domestic violence. So she again is using intellectual dishonesty in order to convey and convince.

@jetlifebih

Homicide is one of the leading causes of death for women aged ≤44 years.* In 2015, homicide caused the death of 3,519 girls and women in the United States. Rates of female homicide vary by race/ethnicity (1), and nearly half of victims are killed by a current or former male intimate partner (2). To inform homicide and intimate partner violence (IPV) prevention efforts, CDC analyzed homicide data from the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) among 10,018 women aged ≥18 years in 18 states during 2003–2014. The frequency of homicide by race/ethnicity and precipitating circumstances of homicides associated with and without IPV were examined. Non-Hispanic black and American Indian/Alaska Native women experienced the highest rates of homicide (4.4 and 4.3 per 100,000 population, respectively). Over half of all homicides (55.3%) were IPV-related; 11.2% of victims of IPV-related homicide experienced some form of violence in the month preceding their deaths, and argument and jealousy were common precipitating circumstances. Targeted IPV prevention programs for populations at disproportionate risk and enhanced access to intervention services for persons experiencing IPV are needed to reduce homicides among women.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...urder-victims-are-killed-by-intimate-partners
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6628a1.htm?s_cid=mm6628a1_w

I believe it, and if we had 100% control over 100% of males we could solve this problem by saying men need to stop killing their partners particularly non Hispanic african American and American Indian/Alaskan

But since we don’t could we at least attempt to influence women to choose their partners wisely also while telling men to stop killing their women?? Attack it from both sides

 

[jetlifebih]

My bad lag spam

 

[jetlifebih]

My bad

 

[konceptjones]

I believe it, and if we had 100% control over 100% of males we could solve this problem by saying men need to stop killing their partners particularly non Hispanic african American and American Indian/Alaskan

But since we don’t could we at least attempt to influence women to choose their partners wisely also while telling men to stop killing their women?? Attack it from both sides

I mean... teach your sons not to hit women, that's all good and whatnot. But teach your daughters to leave these niggas the first time they swing on 'em and don't look back. Also, teach your kids, male AND female, that ain't nobody above an ass whoopin and that some shit you say or do just might get you a haymaker.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

@Westie

@Madame_CJSkywalker

Do y’all see what’s happening to our black men outchea at the hands of black women ????

*sigh*

wish I'd get the same passion from you and others when I try to bring attention to issues like the fact that for blk women 18-25 one of the top leading causes of death year after year is intimate partner homicide...meaning they are being killed by either their husbands boyfriends
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...coming-victims-of-homicidal-domestic-violence

what she did was horrible though

Would a black man get these type of charges dropped/lowered if the genders were switched??

if he pleaded no contest

the saginaw court system is overburdened like most others

the DA ain't trying to take nothing to trial, especially with both the victim and perp being blk

and actually the over whelming majority of criminal cases end in plea deals, lowered charges and charges being dropped

Leading cause of death for black women is heart disease. Stop lying.

She said “one of the top”

Which is true but we must dig into that because like I said that in itself tells the story of another issue because in the context of domestic violence and relationships...partners are agreed upon...we stopped arranged relationships ...now some relationships may end up arranged because of bills but the fact is women need to choose better partners....men do too

So we can theoretically say or tell men need to stop killing our women and they stop but they are not, so what can be done to slow this down that women have control of?? Choosing better mates...I don’t believe that at a rate like that...men are snapping and going insane after showing no signs of being capable of harming women, or that these guys are good actors and act like the perfect mate until they kill their mate...women are overlooking red flags for personal reasons that are back biting the shit out of them because they have been sold a dream not by us black men but by society

The stat she is listing is homicide. Homicide does not indicate domestic violence. So she again is using intellectual dishonesty in order to convey and convince.

@jetlifebih

Homicide is one of the leading causes of death for women aged ≤44 years.* In 2015, homicide caused the death of 3,519 girls and women in the United States. Rates of female homicide vary by race/ethnicity (1), and nearly half of victims are killed by a current or former male intimate partner (2). To inform homicide and intimate partner violence (IPV) prevention efforts, CDC analyzed homicide data from the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) among 10,018 women aged ≥18 years in 18 states during 2003–2014. The frequency of homicide by race/ethnicity and precipitating circumstances of homicides associated with and without IPV were examined. Non-Hispanic black and American Indian/Alaska Native women experienced the highest rates of homicide (4.4 and 4.3 per 100,000 population, respectively). Over half of all homicides (55.3%) were IPV-related; 11.2% of victims of IPV-related homicide experienced some form of violence in the month preceding their deaths, and argument and jealousy were common precipitating circumstances. Targeted IPV prevention programs for populations at disproportionate risk and enhanced access to intervention services for persons experiencing IPV are needed to reduce homicides among women.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...urder-victims-are-killed-by-intimate-partners
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6628a1.htm?s_cid=mm6628a1_w

I believe it, and if we had 100% control over 100% of males we could solve this problem by saying men need to stop killing their partners particularly non Hispanic african American and American Indian/Alaskan

But since we don’t could we at least attempt to influence women to choose their partners wisely also while telling men to stop killing their women?? Attack it from both sides

women pick who they date, fuck, marry, etc but it's a big enough problem to suggest it is a cultural problem, i.e. american culture. meaning there may be some things going on within our culture that is encouraging this type of behavior. and if one cares, one would then want to find ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior

on another note, this girl here should be imprisoned though for the next decade

 

[konceptjones]

women pick who they date, fuck, marry, etc but it's a big enough problem to suggest it is a cultural problem, i.e. american culture. meaning there may be some things going on within our culture that is encouraging this type of behavior. and if one cares, one would then want to find ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior

on another note, this girl here should be imprisoned though for life

you misspelled "life". I fixed it for you though.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

@Westie

@Madame_CJSkywalker

Do y’all see what’s happening to our black men outchea at the hands of black women ????

*sigh*

wish I'd get the same passion from you and others when I try to bring attention to issues like the fact that for blk women 18-25 one of the top leading causes of death year after year is intimate partner homicide...meaning they are being killed by either their husbands boyfriends
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...coming-victims-of-homicidal-domestic-violence

what she did was horrible though

Would a black man get these type of charges dropped/lowered if the genders were switched??

if he pleaded no contest

the saginaw court system is overburdened like most others

the DA ain't trying to take nothing to trial, especially with both the victim and perp being blk

and actually the over whelming majority of criminal cases end in plea deals, lowered charges and charges being dropped

@westie how you gon give reactions and not respond guh

@Madame_CJSkywalker

See how in the other thread you say black men act like white people by dismissing your arguments

The caucasity of you to bring up the “well I wish y’all would march when black on black crime happens” argument....this is a different conversation but I do admit women face unique and although I hate the word....intersectional issues while being a black women...however I may be wrong because I feel strongly about this...but it’s very unfortunate that black women are dying at the hands of their mates....however last time I checked women choose their mate....that means the highest educated group of people are procreating with the bottom of the group of people who are causing their death at one of the highest rates...now that could mean a number of things but the point is the way we are going about solving our problems is causing a bigger divide....

And for the record you did say a black man accused of rape would have a higher chance of getting his charges dropped than convicted?

that was very white of me? lol

not like you didn't use this thread as an opportunity to get a dig in or to suggest blk women are out here just wildin

never suggested black man accused of rape would have a higher chance of getting his charges dropped than convicted....meant if anyone pleaded no contest given an opportunity there would be a chance of receiving lesser charges and or a lighter sentence

but yes women generally receive lighter sentencing and punishment though than men ...and blk men the harshest treatment which is a big problem obviously...

 

[jetlifebih]

I believe it, and if we had 100% control over 100% of males we could solve this problem by saying men need to stop killing their partners particularly non Hispanic african American and American Indian/Alaskan

But since we don’t could we at least attempt to influence women to choose their partners wisely also while telling men to stop killing their women?? Attack it from both sides

I mean... teach your sons not to hit women, that's all good and whatnot. But teach your daughters to leave these niggas the first time they swing on 'em and don't look back. Also, teach your kids, male AND female, that ain't nobody above an ass whoopin and that some shit you say or do just might get you a haymaker.

I most definitely would and will teach my kids but how do I protect them in a world where the majority of parents aren’t teaching their kids period.....we send em off and let society raise them....

If I’m working 40+ hours a week that means my child is for 40+ hours being taught by society....and well we see what society is today...and that’s why we have these results ...

@Westie

@Madame_CJSkywalker

Do y’all see what’s happening to our black men outchea at the hands of black women ????

*sigh*

wish I'd get the same passion from you and others when I try to bring attention to issues like the fact that for blk women 18-25 one of the top leading causes of death year after year is intimate partner homicide...meaning they are being killed by either their husbands boyfriends
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...coming-victims-of-homicidal-domestic-violence

what she did was horrible though

Would a black man get these type of charges dropped/lowered if the genders were switched??

if he pleaded no contest

the saginaw court system is overburdened like most others

the DA ain't trying to take nothing to trial, especially with both the victim and perp being blk

and actually the over whelming majority of criminal cases end in plea deals, lowered charges and charges being dropped

@westie how you gon give reactions and not respond guh

@Madame_CJSkywalker

See how in the other thread you say black men act like white people by dismissing your arguments

The caucasity of you to bring up the “well I wish y’all would march when black on black crime happens” argument....this is a different conversation but I do admit women face unique and although I hate the word....intersectional issues while being a black women...however I may be wrong because I feel strongly about this...but it’s very unfortunate that black women are dying at the hands of their mates....however last time I checked women choose their mate....that means the highest educated group of people are procreating with the bottom of the group of people who are causing their death at one of the highest rates...now that could mean a number of things but the point is the way we are going about solving our problems is causing a bigger divide....

And for the record you did say a black man accused of rape would have a higher chance of getting his charges dropped than convicted?

that was very white of me? lol

not like you didn't use this thread as an opportunity to get a dig in or to suggest blk women are out here just wildin

never suggested black man accused of rape would have a higher chance of getting his charges dropped than convicted....meant if anyone pleaded no contest given an opportunity there would be a chance of receiving lesser charges and or a lighter sentence

but yes women generally receive lighter sentencing and punishment though than men ...and blk men the harshest treatment which is a big problem obviously...

I wasn’t using the thread as a dig, y’all aint wilding, y’all decision making is just wild , I want tangible solutions....I envision having a daughter some day, and have female family members whom I care deeply about, but a flash light on the small piece of hypocrisy that you thought was gon slide....in one breathe we aren’t doing the very same thing you aren’t in the next breathe...more so a warning shot/cease fire shot as we could go on and on until we die back and fourth....how do we move forward??

Most of the solutions aren’t practical from feminist and feministas(male feminist)....”teach your children” how when the majority of black parents are working too much to teach their kids anything??

So for the final record, you are saying that if the roles were reversed ,a black man would be avoiding jail time??

@Madame_CJSkywalker

 

[LordZuko]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

 

[LordZuko]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

and gang culture didn't just come out of nowhere. it is a subculture. a reflection of some of the dominant values in american culture

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

 

[LordZuko]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

I'm about as interested in what happens in other racial groups between the genders as they are in me.

Thug culture encompasses gang culture, but by no means is limited to it.

Receipts for what? Black females are all over YouTube and social media talking about how thugs are preferred to square dudes. Let's not play that game. I don't make assumptions i use observation and first hand testimony. I'm not gonna do that homework for you.

We don't have mutual interests we simply are forced together because of racial oppression but even that is not enough to keep black bitches from conspiring with the very same said oppressors.

 

[jetlifebih]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

I'm about as interested in what happens in other racial groups between the genders as they are in me.

Thug culture encompasses gang culture, but by no means is limited to it.

Receipts for what? Black females are all over YouTube and social media talking about how thugs are preferred to square dudes. Let's not play that game. I don't make assumptions i use observation and first hand testimony. I'm not gonna do that homework for you.

We don't have mutual interests we simply are forced together because of racial oppression but even that is not enough to keep black bitches from conspiring with the very same said oppressors.

Could you elaborate on black men and women not having mutual interests, Ive been having similar thoughts that at least the narrative of black men and black women interests are moving away from being mutual or at least inclusive, I believe it’s more along the lines of moving towards “I’m going for my happiness with or without you” but could you explain that a little more fam

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

I'm about as interested in what happens in other racial groups between the genders as they are in me.

Thug culture encompasses gang culture, but by no means is limited to it.

Receipts for what? Black females are all over YouTube and social media talking about how thugs are preferred to square dudes. Let's not play that game. I don't make assumptions i use observation and first hand testimony. I'm not gonna do that homework for you.

We don't have mutual interests we simply are forced together because of racial oppression but even that is not enough to keep black bitches from conspiring with the very same said oppressors.

you're basing your argument on just anecdotal evidence? lol

and how are you any different than the "blk bitches who conspire with our oppressor"? by not acknowledging that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, you not only risk your narrative, we risk making it appear that the behavior this thinking supports and condones is a black thing. but you can't pass up another opportunity to shit on blk women huh

that said, this isn't just some black thing. what happens in the households of white, black and asian ppl, is largely the product of a society that has historically objectified and demeaned women

 

[jetlifebih]

@Madame_CJSkywalker


This dr from Texas a&m says the opposite of what you say statistically about men being the #1 threat

And also responds to the article that says straight black men are the white people of the black community if anybody cares to listen , I’m 34 minutes in

 

[LordZuko]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

Secondly, one possible and highly probable reason that black women disproportionately higher from domestic violence than other women is black women's infatuation with thugs and thug culture. Black females like to get with street niggas and clown square niggas. Can't choose your partners for you. Black Men are no more responsible for the men black women choose and are not responsible for defending you or getting you out of crazy situations y'all put yourselves in. There are countless niggas that are dead tryna put a cape on for a bitch getting the brakes beat off her by her Nigga.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black households are headed by single mothers.

We can only speculate but i bet the majority of these men who killed their women are fatherless. It's not a reach either as we have studies that show the majority of inmates are also fatherless. So i conclude this by saying

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

I'm about as interested in what happens in other racial groups between the genders as they are in me.

Thug culture encompasses gang culture, but by no means is limited to it.

Receipts for what? Black females are all over YouTube and social media talking about how thugs are preferred to square dudes. Let's not play that game. I don't make assumptions i use observation and first hand testimony. I'm not gonna do that homework for you.

We don't have mutual interests we simply are forced together because of racial oppression but even that is not enough to keep black bitches from conspiring with the very same said oppressors.

you're basing your argument on just anecdotal evidence? lol

and how are you any different than the "blk bitches who conspire with our oppressor"? by not acknowledging that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, you not only risk your narrative, we risk making it appear that the behavior this thinking supports and condones is a black thing. but you can't pass up another opportunity to shit on blk women huh

that said, this isn't just some black thing. what happens in the households of white, black and asian ppl, is largely the product of a society that has historically objectified and demeaned women

And there is the straw man. Society has not historically demeaned women. Society has prioritized the needs of both to fulfill roles that propagate the expansion of a society. Both men and women are objectified to functionality by the state. On a personal level both men and women objectify each other just for different things.

Black Men are different from black women on a very basic issue. Loyalty. Black Men have never sold out black women to either gain favor with white society or to receive some compensation. Black women have done this time and again first with welfare then going on national tv to tell the world that black men aren't good enough for them. Oh i also forgot the ebony magazine articles in the 40s and 50s talking about why white men made better husbands.

My statements aren't based on anecdotal evidence they are based on natural observation and first hand testimony from black women. But the most damning evidence is to look the fuck around at the mate selection choices of black women.

Told you i don't play games. I'm not monk. You have nothing to say. And I'm not gonna go back and forth with You. Dismissed.

 

[jetlifebih]

@Madame_CJSkywalker


This dr from Texas a&m says the opposite of what you say statistically about men being the #1 threat

And also responds to the article that says straight black men are the white people of the black community if anybody cares to listen , I’m 34 minutes in

He entered intersectionallity with facts....and I was just buying into intersectionallity....I gotta sharpen up my steel.....caught me slippin....

 

[LordZuko]

We're not gonna flip the script nor are we gonna deflect.

However i will question the number of "victims" simply because black women have this thing where they antagonize a man and push his buttons to get him to an irrational emotional state.

So the numbers are probably valid. However it's a reflection on black women's choices and not black men as a whole. If you try to say that it is a result of home teaching/conditioning, my follow up is again whose fault? 72% of black h

@Madame_CJSkywalker. Like many black women have before her, presented a situation where they are the chief architects and engineers but again lay fault at the feet of black men while shirking any accountability.

Tl;dr if you die because you date a crazy nigga, that's yo fault. You knew he was crazy when you got with him. He told you he was crazy, your friends told you he was crazy. But you were crazy too....bout that dick.

define thug culture

and why isn't this thug culture that blk women are so infatuated with causing them to commit violence and murder at similar rates?

more importantly this is an issue across all racial and ethnic groups, so what is your excuse for native american men? or hispanic men? white men? asian men?

the numbers just further illustrates that there are deep fractures in race AND gender relations as i've always argued. same as we see contempt for non white ppl particularly blk ppl, there is a contempt for women that we've all internalized to varying degrees. a certain dehumanization that allows for the aforementioned numbers to become acceptable OR excusable ...

very few ppl are born wanting to hurt others. for these actions to be possible, the victim must be somehow rendered deserving of death or a beating. or the victim must have been so completely dehumanized that the question of her having feelings or being someone's beloved (insert noun) does not matter. look no further than popular culture and media, to see how blk ppl as well women are demonized and dehumanized

when confronted with the numbers, many "reasonable" ppl start to find reasons to make exceptions for some of them, e.g., those who are out late at night, those who sleep around, those who dress "suggestively", those who "date thugs", etc opposed to finding ways to address what environmental variables are placing us at risk for antisocial behavior (i.e. see the above post)

You know what thug culture is so I'm not even going to dignify that as a legitimate question.

Females are infatuatef with being part of thug culture with a degree of separation. Lots of females date dboys but don't sling dope, but they get free weed. These same females frequently get into fights with other females., provide alibis for their thug boyfriends and hold weight cash and or pistols. So we really not gonna play stupid. These not even all hood chicks either. Lot of these hoes are college educated white collar professionals.

As far as murder, females in general commit proxy violence. They hire hitmen, or poison, or fabricate a story to enlist the aid of a male relative or lover. In the hood context, they will go on social media to let their bf's ops know where he at or call the police to say that he is being violent and is armed.

Females throw rocks and hide their hands.

I don't care about other races of men, perhaps their women are treacherous as well, and do things to bring about violent reactions in men, or choose violent and unstable men to be with.

The gender divide is one that is created and widened by the traitorous acts of black females and their cuck fuck niggas. I have no interest in repairing or building bridges or stemming the divide in any way. Black Men and women have no mutual interests to build any foundation. We don't even get along except horizontally. We Don't choose To be together We are forced To deal with one another Because of circumstance.

by thug culture I'm assuming you are referring to gang culture?

receipts?

otherwise you're making assumptions based off little more than your own biases

you don't care that it happens across all racial and ethnic groups, especially within the native american community, because it doesn't support your narrative

and the fact that believe blk men and women have no mutual interests is very telling

I'm about as interested in what happens in other racial groups between the genders as they are in me.

Thug culture encompasses gang culture, but by no means is limited to it.

Receipts for what? Black females are all over YouTube and social media talking about how thugs are preferred to square dudes. Let's not play that game. I don't make assumptions i use observation and first hand testimony. I'm not gonna do that homework for you.

We don't have mutual interests we simply are forced together because of racial oppression but even that is not enough to keep black bitches from conspiring with the very same said oppressors.

Could you elaborate on black men and women not having mutual interests, Ive been having similar thoughts that at least the narrative of black men and black women interests are moving away from being mutual or at least inclusive, I believe it’s more along the lines of moving towards “I’m going for my happiness with or without you” but could you explain that a little more fam

You have to do a compare and contrast to get the picture. In other groups, the goal of that group is to become competitive on a global scale against other groups.

In every other group you are only as powerful as feared as viable as your men are. No one cares really what women do because women do not build societies nor do they maintain them. Women are the facilitators.

However in the "black community" this is reversed on purpose. Black females from youth are taught that they are better than their male counterparts. Black males are mentally underdeveloped in these households. Evidenced by the disparity in reading scores between black box and girls. Black boys are also pushed out of schools and treated much more harshly especially in environments that are either ran by white people or black females.

I feel like this is gonna take forever. Long story short. Black females want to invert gender roles they want to be the man the financial bread winner make the major decisions while she either gets a black husband who will be subservient to her and is there to be arm candy and emotional support OR a white husband that will upgrade her social status.

Black Men are just trying to hustle and find various industries in the global market to get a foothold in. Black Men really aren't in black communities. We aren't welcome there except in limited function.

Black women avoid partnering up with black men who are more intelligent or financially stable than they are. They marry down with bm in order to have control. Black women in general do not choose high potential mates while in college. In contrast white women, Latinas and Asians purposefully seek out high potential college men, doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc etc and stake their claim early. I'm talking freshmen year. The predominate blab male that black college women try to do this with are athletes. But the odds of going pro vs getting into av residency are astronomical.

This is why in more affluent neighborhoods so many well to do black men are in interracial relationships or married with children while black women of a similar age and tax bracket are "still looking for the one"