Geraldo Rivera: Hip-Hop’s Done ‘More Damage’ to Minorities Than Racism in the Last Decade..

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Stiff;7808873 said:
Huey_C;7808836 said:
TheEyeronic1;7807854 said:
i know niggas dont wanna hear/believe that our beloved rap music CAN be destructive, but it is what it is.

Word , which I always say alot of these posters aren't from the hood or are sheltered. If they think "negative" rap music isn't a factor in the self destructive mentality of today's youths then they are fools.

So how do you account for the self destructive behavior that existed before rap music? Tookie Williams and Raymond washington weren't inspired to form Crips (in the 1960s) because of any NWA record

But in 2015 what is being glorified? These double agent artist exploit and glorify the most violent and baseless aspects of a small minority and repackage it for monetary gains. Also, it doesn't have the same effect on white youth because it's merely a fantasy, dam near fiction in there eyes. These racist music executives knew what they were doing when they made gangster rap popular. It was essentially a double edged sword.
 
Stiff;7807591 said:
aneed123;7807584 said:
Stop with the tangible evidence stuff. I'm talking from life experiences... I'm old enough to have grown up in the 80s to now listening to rap all those decades... I work with the youth and it's coming from the horses mouth... Ain't no statistics or equations gonna validate it cuz u can scew them to fit any agenda. Read my posts again too I said rap along with the the other factors y'all named as well

Alright so hypothetically speaking let's say that what you're saying is right, and kids today are wilin' worse than they've ever been(I don't believe that's true but let's just say it is)...how can you say absolutely that rap music is the cause of that and not the reflection of that?

That's what i'm thinkin, the music is just a reflection of the lifestyle, i could see niggas who come from good homes being negatively effected by the music before i see lil tink tink and man man let the music effect them, tink and man been cuttin up since the day they was born, regardless of music, its they environment that got them fucked up from the jump, the most

another way to look at the bold is if we call each other niggers in the music or outside of it, than contrary to popular dumb nigga/cac belief, thats a reflection of our history/lifestyle, not rap music, now if some cracks get up here and start callin eachother niggers then its the music fault, partly anyway

i dont fancy bein accused of doin what i do because rap made me, nigga rap do what it do because i made rap, now who made us?
 
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5 Grand;7808913 said:
optimistic;7808796 said:
5 Grand;7808352 said:
Stiff;7808216 said:
5 Grand;7808193 said:
If you guys don't think a rapper can glorify gang life, drug dealing and gun violence, you must not be listening to the good stuff.

In fact, you must not have heard any rap in the past 25 years if you deny that rap music CAN have a negative effect on youth via the lyrics.

Or maybe ya'll just sincerely don't remember what the Black community was like prior to the gangsta rap era.

Crack and gang infested?

How old are you?

Ever see The Cosby Show?

Granted, I didn't grow up in "the hood" the 80s was post civil rights era. Martin Luther King's birthday was made into a holiday and you began to see the beginnings of a Black middle class.

When gangsta rap came around it was like a double edged sword. On one hand it was the voice of the underclass; The voice of the voiceless. On the other hand, it confused children and teenagers who, could have been encouraged to stay in school and go to college, instead they said "fuck the world", smoked weed, got drunk, sold drugs and in many cases, went to jail (and in some cases people are still in jail from the early gangsta rap era)

The incarceration rate has gone up 700% since the early 70s. That means if there were 100 people in jail in 1970, there's 700 people in the same jail now.

Here's some more statistics; Blacks drop out of high school at a higher rate than whites. In Trenton, NJ the dropout/graduation rate is around 50%. For some reason Black dropouts have a higher incarceration rate than White dropouts, and Blacks dropout at a higher rate. One obvious solution would be to stay in school and go on to college. Black College graduates have a far lower incarceration rate than Black high school dropouts.

I can remember what I would consider the turning point. It was in the late 80s. Spike Lee was the new kid on the block and he was producing and directing his own movies with all black casts. His movies had a positive vibe to them and whenever one of his movies dropped the Black Community would flood the theaters. One of his movies, School Daze came out in 1988. It was about a fictional Black College. The characters all had their heads on strait(relatively speaking) and we're pursuing degrees in college. There was a scene where the college students had a run in with the locals in the town who resented the presence of the college kids.

It was around that time that Schooly D, Boogie Down Productions and NWA came out. They aired a lot of dirty laundry. People could relate to gangsta rap and I suppose it was a combination of socio-economic class, upbringing and having positive role models but between 1988 and 1995 it went from Spike Lee making movies about Black kids going to college to movies like Menace to Society (which was a great movie directed by John Singleton another Black director) to rappers like Tupac tattooing Thug Life on his stomach and Biggie rapping about being a crack dealer in the first person.

I was in my twenties during the 90s and I could see the shift. It went from wanting to be like Theo on the Cosby Show to wanting to be "a real nigga" that curses all the time, does drugs, goes to jail and ultimately ends up dead. If you didn't live in that era don't even bother responding.

It's impossible to argue that the incarceration rate has declined since the gangsta rap era. The only reason there may appear to be a lower incarceration date is that the jails/prisons are overcrowded so there's nowhere to put the criminal after he's found guilty. The Criminal Justice System is experimenting with different Community corrections techniques like electronic bracelets or extended community service. Unfortunately, when you look at the statistics, things are worse than they've ever been.

you are so misinformed fam. Be a proper oldhead and stop with the bullshit, I'm older than you and from the hood, you know what else was happening in the 80s while you were watching cosby? niggas were LIVING in New JACK CITY.

Families were torn apart by by addiction, incarceration, which led to crack babies and absentee parents. which gangster rapper introduced these drugs? which hip hop artist made up laws to disproportionately lock up a certain group of people? Saying hip hop contributed to a lot of the fuckery going on is true. But to imply hip hop is the catalyst of or worse than racism just means you fell for the distraction

Like I said, I grew up in the suburbs. I don't know what came first the chicken or the egg but I noticed a lot of progress when I was a kid and it seemed like around the time Self Destruction and We're All In The Same Gang came out there was a lot of unity but slowly rap/Hip Hop got more violent to the point where it was a completely different animal by the mid 90s.

I can say for a fact that crime has gone UP^^^^^ since those days. I know this. I study crime statistics, criminology and write papers on these things. What's clear is that the powers that be (major corporations) mass produced a certain kind of Hip Hop to influence the youth to engage in criminal activity. It started in the early 90s and if you can't see it as plain as day then you're blind. You're blind to the facts baby.

Bruh.jpg


Crime has NOT gone up since those days...I posted facts with sources and graphs and all that shit demonstrating that it hasn't..i don't know what crime statistics you study but they're not consistent with this world's statistics. Show me some data that shows that crime has gone up amongst Black people since 1980 or so. Any piece of data. Don't show me that incarceration rates are up. Show me anywhere that says that crime rates are up.
 
This just him sensationalizing. Not the type of thing people take seriously. Like dude posted, if hip hop is the worst thing to happen to minorities, why have things steadily improved since the 90s as far as dramatically lower crime and dropout rates and higher college participation rates? sorry haters but those are the facts. Nobody is saying kids arent impressionable but thats nothing new. even taking that into account of course hip hop aint the worst thing to happen. Its had its plusses and negatives but there are way bigger societal issues that effect where people live and so forth. Anyway this is all the attention i will give Geraldo's sensationalized nonsense.
 
SWAMPGOD;7808788 said:
I don't see how modern rap is more negative than what it used to be in the 90s.

Explain the WTF my G, @Huey.C

Nigga i grew up listenin to 2 live crew talkin bout fuckin bitches on stage in front of thousands of people

Spice 1 and Brotha lynch hung talkin bout eatin and throwin up niggas stomachs and guts and shit

dj quik and mc eiht talkin bout killin niggas over what color they wear

Lord Infamous talkin bout holdin angels hostage in hells chapel

every time i turned around in the 90s master p and pimp c had anotha ki they was talkin bout movin upstate

not to mention mobb deep shootin 137 random niggas per square inch of a bar

how in the hell is any of the shit that go on today worse than that

you could argue that todays aggressive content is more realistic but is it really that much worse?
 
Huey_C;7808934 said:
Stiff;7808873 said:
Huey_C;7808836 said:
TheEyeronic1;7807854 said:
i know niggas dont wanna hear/believe that our beloved rap music CAN be destructive, but it is what it is.

Word , which I always say alot of these posters aren't from the hood or are sheltered. If they think "negative" rap music isn't a factor in the self destructive mentality of today's youths then they are fools.

So how do you account for the self destructive behavior that existed before rap music? Tookie Williams and Raymond washington weren't inspired to form Crips (in the 1960s) because of any NWA record

But in 2015 what is being glorified? These double agent artist exploit and glorify the most violent and baseless aspects of a small minority and repackage it for monetary gains. Also, it doesn't have the same effect on white youth because it's merely a fantasy, dam near fiction in there eyes. These racist music executives knew what they were doing when they made gangster rap popular. It was essentially a double edged sword.

So you're saying that white kids are able to separate fiction from reality more so than Black kids. Interesting.

Also based on what you're saying we get back to racism being the root of the issue ("racist music executives knew what they were doing when they made gangster rap popular")

 
I really aint on no side when it comes to what yall niggas is arguin about, both sides make good points

but pertaining to what geraldo said, no, rap has NOT done more damage than racism, during any period, thats just stupid
 
Stiff;7808955 said:
5 Grand;7808913 said:
optimistic;7808796 said:
5 Grand;7808352 said:
Stiff;7808216 said:
5 Grand;7808193 said:
If you guys don't think a rapper can glorify gang life, drug dealing and gun violence, you must not be listening to the good stuff.

In fact, you must not have heard any rap in the past 25 years if you deny that rap music CAN have a negative effect on youth via the lyrics.

Or maybe ya'll just sincerely don't remember what the Black community was like prior to the gangsta rap era.

Crack and gang infested?

How old are you?

Ever see The Cosby Show?

Granted, I didn't grow up in "the hood" the 80s was post civil rights era. Martin Luther King's birthday was made into a holiday and you began to see the beginnings of a Black middle class.

When gangsta rap came around it was like a double edged sword. On one hand it was the voice of the underclass; The voice of the voiceless. On the other hand, it confused children and teenagers who, could have been encouraged to stay in school and go to college, instead they said "fuck the world", smoked weed, got drunk, sold drugs and in many cases, went to jail (and in some cases people are still in jail from the early gangsta rap era)

The incarceration rate has gone up 700% since the early 70s. That means if there were 100 people in jail in 1970, there's 700 people in the same jail now.

Here's some more statistics; Blacks drop out of high school at a higher rate than whites. In Trenton, NJ the dropout/graduation rate is around 50%. For some reason Black dropouts have a higher incarceration rate than White dropouts, and Blacks dropout at a higher rate. One obvious solution would be to stay in school and go on to college. Black College graduates have a far lower incarceration rate than Black high school dropouts.

I can remember what I would consider the turning point. It was in the late 80s. Spike Lee was the new kid on the block and he was producing and directing his own movies with all black casts. His movies had a positive vibe to them and whenever one of his movies dropped the Black Community would flood the theaters. One of his movies, School Daze came out in 1988. It was about a fictional Black College. The characters all had their heads on strait(relatively speaking) and we're pursuing degrees in college. There was a scene where the college students had a run in with the locals in the town who resented the presence of the college kids.

It was around that time that Schooly D, Boogie Down Productions and NWA came out. They aired a lot of dirty laundry. People could relate to gangsta rap and I suppose it was a combination of socio-economic class, upbringing and having positive role models but between 1988 and 1995 it went from Spike Lee making movies about Black kids going to college to movies like Menace to Society (which was a great movie directed by John Singleton another Black director) to rappers like Tupac tattooing Thug Life on his stomach and Biggie rapping about being a crack dealer in the first person.

I was in my twenties during the 90s and I could see the shift. It went from wanting to be like Theo on the Cosby Show to wanting to be "a real nigga" that curses all the time, does drugs, goes to jail and ultimately ends up dead. If you didn't live in that era don't even bother responding.

It's impossible to argue that the incarceration rate has declined since the gangsta rap era. The only reason there may appear to be a lower incarceration date is that the jails/prisons are overcrowded so there's nowhere to put the criminal after he's found guilty. The Criminal Justice System is experimenting with different Community corrections techniques like electronic bracelets or extended community service. Unfortunately, when you look at the statistics, things are worse than they've ever been.

you are so misinformed fam. Be a proper oldhead and stop with the bullshit, I'm older than you and from the hood, you know what else was happening in the 80s while you were watching cosby? niggas were LIVING in New JACK CITY.

Families were torn apart by by addiction, incarceration, which led to crack babies and absentee parents. which gangster rapper introduced these drugs? which hip hop artist made up laws to disproportionately lock up a certain group of people? Saying hip hop contributed to a lot of the fuckery going on is true. But to imply hip hop is the catalyst of or worse than racism just means you fell for the distraction

Like I said, I grew up in the suburbs. I don't know what came first the chicken or the egg but I noticed a lot of progress when I was a kid and it seemed like around the time Self Destruction and We're All In The Same Gang came out there was a lot of unity but slowly rap/Hip Hop got more violent to the point where it was a completely different animal by the mid 90s.

I can say for a fact that crime has gone UP^^^^^ since those days. I know this. I study crime statistics, criminology and write papers on these things. What's clear is that the powers that be (major corporations) mass produced a certain kind of Hip Hop to influence the youth to engage in criminal activity. It started in the early 90s and if you can't see it as plain as day then you're blind. You're blind to the facts baby.

Bruh.jpg


Crime has NOT gone up since those days...I posted facts with sources and graphs and all that shit demonstrating that it hasn't..i don't know what crime statistics you study but they're not consistent with this world's statistics. Show me some data that shows that crime has gone up amongst Black people since 1980 or so. Any piece of data. Don't show me that incarceration rates are up. Show me anywhere that says that crime rates are up.

If a person is serving a 25 to life sentence he CAN'T commit crime. It's called Incapacitation. Incapacitation restrains offenders from committing additional crimes by isolating them, usually in jail or prison. Incarceration has gone up 700 percent. The prisons are overcrowded with people who committed crimes 20 years ago.

Also, your sources are bogus.

 
@5grand you're pulling a fox news out here. the op says Geraldo........................... Geraldo's statement is 100% inaccurate, but you agree with a sliver of what he says and you wanna frame the argument to fit your agenda, Bottom line. Do you AGREE or DISAGREE that over the last 10 years hip hop has done more damage to minorities than racism?

fuck a course, a chart, or a survey. yea or nay?
 
5 Grand;7808988 said:
Stiff;7808955 said:
5 Grand;7808913 said:
optimistic;7808796 said:
5 Grand;7808352 said:
Stiff;7808216 said:
5 Grand;7808193 said:
If you guys don't think a rapper can glorify gang life, drug dealing and gun violence, you must not be listening to the good stuff.

In fact, you must not have heard any rap in the past 25 years if you deny that rap music CAN have a negative effect on youth via the lyrics.

Or maybe ya'll just sincerely don't remember what the Black community was like prior to the gangsta rap era.

Crack and gang infested?

How old are you?

Ever see The Cosby Show?

Granted, I didn't grow up in "the hood" the 80s was post civil rights era. Martin Luther King's birthday was made into a holiday and you began to see the beginnings of a Black middle class.

When gangsta rap came around it was like a double edged sword. On one hand it was the voice of the underclass; The voice of the voiceless. On the other hand, it confused children and teenagers who, could have been encouraged to stay in school and go to college, instead they said "fuck the world", smoked weed, got drunk, sold drugs and in many cases, went to jail (and in some cases people are still in jail from the early gangsta rap era)

The incarceration rate has gone up 700% since the early 70s. That means if there were 100 people in jail in 1970, there's 700 people in the same jail now.

Here's some more statistics; Blacks drop out of high school at a higher rate than whites. In Trenton, NJ the dropout/graduation rate is around 50%. For some reason Black dropouts have a higher incarceration rate than White dropouts, and Blacks dropout at a higher rate. One obvious solution would be to stay in school and go on to college. Black College graduates have a far lower incarceration rate than Black high school dropouts.

I can remember what I would consider the turning point. It was in the late 80s. Spike Lee was the new kid on the block and he was producing and directing his own movies with all black casts. His movies had a positive vibe to them and whenever one of his movies dropped the Black Community would flood the theaters. One of his movies, School Daze came out in 1988. It was about a fictional Black College. The characters all had their heads on strait(relatively speaking) and we're pursuing degrees in college. There was a scene where the college students had a run in with the locals in the town who resented the presence of the college kids.

It was around that time that Schooly D, Boogie Down Productions and NWA came out. They aired a lot of dirty laundry. People could relate to gangsta rap and I suppose it was a combination of socio-economic class, upbringing and having positive role models but between 1988 and 1995 it went from Spike Lee making movies about Black kids going to college to movies like Menace to Society (which was a great movie directed by John Singleton another Black director) to rappers like Tupac tattooing Thug Life on his stomach and Biggie rapping about being a crack dealer in the first person.

I was in my twenties during the 90s and I could see the shift. It went from wanting to be like Theo on the Cosby Show to wanting to be "a real nigga" that curses all the time, does drugs, goes to jail and ultimately ends up dead. If you didn't live in that era don't even bother responding.

It's impossible to argue that the incarceration rate has declined since the gangsta rap era. The only reason there may appear to be a lower incarceration date is that the jails/prisons are overcrowded so there's nowhere to put the criminal after he's found guilty. The Criminal Justice System is experimenting with different Community corrections techniques like electronic bracelets or extended community service. Unfortunately, when you look at the statistics, things are worse than they've ever been.

you are so misinformed fam. Be a proper oldhead and stop with the bullshit, I'm older than you and from the hood, you know what else was happening in the 80s while you were watching cosby? niggas were LIVING in New JACK CITY.

Families were torn apart by by addiction, incarceration, which led to crack babies and absentee parents. which gangster rapper introduced these drugs? which hip hop artist made up laws to disproportionately lock up a certain group of people? Saying hip hop contributed to a lot of the fuckery going on is true. But to imply hip hop is the catalyst of or worse than racism just means you fell for the distraction

Like I said, I grew up in the suburbs. I don't know what came first the chicken or the egg but I noticed a lot of progress when I was a kid and it seemed like around the time Self Destruction and We're All In The Same Gang came out there was a lot of unity but slowly rap/Hip Hop got more violent to the point where it was a completely different animal by the mid 90s.

I can say for a fact that crime has gone UP^^^^^ since those days. I know this. I study crime statistics, criminology and write papers on these things. What's clear is that the powers that be (major corporations) mass produced a certain kind of Hip Hop to influence the youth to engage in criminal activity. It started in the early 90s and if you can't see it as plain as day then you're blind. You're blind to the facts baby.

Bruh.jpg


Crime has NOT gone up since those days...I posted facts with sources and graphs and all that shit demonstrating that it hasn't..i don't know what crime statistics you study but they're not consistent with this world's statistics. Show me some data that shows that crime has gone up amongst Black people since 1980 or so. Any piece of data. Don't show me that incarceration rates are up. Show me anywhere that says that crime rates are up.

If a person is serving a 25 to life sentence he CAN'T commit crime. It's called Incapacitation. Incapacitation restrains offenders from committing additional crimes by isolating them, usually in jail or prison. Incarceration has gone up 700 percent. The prisons are overcrowded with people who committed crimes 20 years ago.

Also, your sources are bogus.

lmao how are my sources bogus bruh...they're legitimate as far as sources go click the links and do the research for yourself. you're not the only person who studies.

Also, regarding your concept of incapacitation being the main contributing factor to the sharp drop of crime since the 80s...it's purely theoretical and not supported by evidence.
 
Man, they always sniffing for a reason to talk about rap.......

It may not be helpful, but them folks need to clean up they own house before they come talking about other ppl's issues. There's a bunch of entertainment that won't be good for kids, and yeah I admit even rap, but they need to start naggin and naggin on them other forms of entertainment too.
 
optimistic;7808993 said:
@5grand you're pulling a fox news out here. the op says Geraldo........................... Geraldo's statement is 100% inaccurate, but you agree with a sliver of what he says and you wanna frame the argument to fit your agenda, Bottom line. Do you AGREE or DISAGREE that over the last 10 years hip hop has done more damage to minorities than racism?

fuck a course, a chart, or a survey. yea or nay?

I think that the powers that be (corporations like Clear Channel and Def Jam) promote images that are unhealthy. These images are especially unhealthy for children and teenagers who may or may not have positive role models. Images such as gunshots in the music, heavy cursing, drug use, etc. Furthermore, some rappers glorify going to jail. I can probably name more rappers that glorify "thug life" than rappers that glorify going to college. I think that's what Geraldo meant.

As far as racism goes, we have a Black president. Yeah, I know about Treyvon Martin and Ferguson but I don't think the image of gangsta rappers helped those cases.

I think Americans turn on their Tv and see Black males with tattoos, jewelry and pants sagging and it perpetuates a negative image.
 
5 Grand;7808352 said:
Stiff;7808216 said:
5 Grand;7808193 said:
If you guys don't think a rapper can glorify gang life, drug dealing and gun violence, you must not be listening to the good stuff.

In fact, you must not have heard any rap in the past 25 years if you deny that rap music CAN have a negative effect on youth via the lyrics.

Or maybe ya'll just sincerely don't remember what the Black community was like prior to the gangsta rap era.

Crack and gang infested?

How old are you?

Ever see The Cosby Show?

Granted, I didn't grow up in "the hood" the 80s was post civil rights era. Martin Luther King's birthday was made into a holiday and you began to see the beginnings of a Black middle class.

When gangsta rap came around it was like a double edged sword. On one hand it was the voice of the underclass; The voice of the voiceless. On the other hand, it confused children and teenagers who, could have been encouraged to stay in school and go to college, instead they said "fuck the world", smoked weed, got drunk, sold drugs and in many cases, went to jail (and in some cases people are still in jail from the early gangsta rap era)

The incarceration rate has gone up 700% since the early 70s. That means if there were 100 people in jail in 1970, there's 700 people in the same jail now.

Here's some more statistics; Blacks drop out of high school at a higher rate than whites. In Trenton, NJ the dropout/graduation rate is around 50%. For some reason Black dropouts have a higher incarceration rate than White dropouts, and Blacks dropout at a higher rate. One obvious solution would be to stay in school and go on to college. Black College graduates have a far lower incarceration rate than Black high school dropouts.

I can remember what I would consider the turning point. It was in the late 80s. Spike Lee was the new kid on the block and he was producing and directing his own movies with all black casts. His movies had a positive vibe to them and whenever one of his movies dropped the Black Community would flood the theaters. One of his movies, School Daze came out in 1988. It was about a fictional Black College. The characters all had their heads on strait(relatively speaking) and we're pursuing degrees in college. There was a scene where the college students had a run in with the locals in the town who resented the presence of the college kids.

It was around that time that Schooly D, Boogie Down Productions and NWA came out. They aired a lot of dirty laundry. People could relate to gangsta rap and I suppose it was a combination of socio-economic class, upbringing and having positive role models but between 1988 and 1995 it went from Spike Lee making movies about Black kids going to college to movies like Menace to Society (which was a great movie directed by John Singleton another Black director) to rappers like Tupac tattooing Thug Life on his stomach and Biggie rapping about being a crack dealer in the first person.

I was in my twenties during the 90s and I could see the shift. It went from wanting to be like Theo on the Cosby Show to wanting to be "a real nigga" that curses all the time, does drugs, goes to jail and ultimately ends up dead. If you didn't live in that era don't even bother responding.

It's impossible to argue that the incarceration rate has declined since the gangsta rap era. The only reason there may appear to be a lower incarceration date is that the jails/prisons are overcrowded so there's nowhere to put the criminal after he's found guilty. The Criminal Justice System is experimenting with different Community corrections techniques like electronic bracelets or extended community service. Unfortunately, when you look at the statistics, things are worse than they've ever been.

What? Lol

Black high school dropouts have a higher incarnation rate than their white counterparts because blks are more likely to be arrested even though whites are just as likely to use/sell drugs/ commit crime

Anyways the rise of the blk middle class began in the 50s,60s, however, leveled off and began to decline in 70s, 80s thanks to discriminatory housing practices, multiple economic recessions, bad policy ... Before NWA hit the radio waves

Small economic gains were made in the late 90s and 2000s, but government job cuts and the 2008 housing market crash put a stop to that

Also the crack wave of the 1980s and the war on drugs hit many blk communities hard... as well as free trade and the globalization of the economy which weakened America's manufacturing/auto industry leaving the residents of places like Detroit with little decent paying jobs

Still, blk high school dropout rates nationally continue to decline

Blk college enrollment rate is on a steady upward trend

Rates of abortion, and teen pregnancy among blks are on the decline

And crime particularly violent crime nationally is at a historic low

The incarnation rate has ballooned since the 70s because we are sending more and more people to prison for non violent offenses than ever before, the sentences for these non violent offenses are longer than ever before, and we are sending younger people to prison ... thank you prison industrial complex, smh

Things def aren't perfect, but there's no evidence that gangsta rap, trap music, rappers with facial tattoos, etc caused this huge cultural shift responsible for the state of blk America

Don't get me wrong music can be influential, but so can video games, rock music, porn, hollywood, etc

We have way bigger shit to worry about like why an inner city blk kid who listens to everyone from Lupe Fiasco to Jeezy is more likely to make less money, be arrested, die at the hands on the police than a white kid from surburbia who plays violent video games and idolizes heavy metal bands who glorify violence/drug use

 
5 Grand;7809020 said:
optimistic;7808993 said:
@5grand you're pulling a fox news out here. the op says Geraldo........................... Geraldo's statement is 100% inaccurate, but you agree with a sliver of what he says and you wanna frame the argument to fit your agenda, Bottom line. Do you AGREE or DISAGREE that over the last 10 years hip hop has done more damage to minorities than racism?

fuck a course, a chart, or a survey. yea or nay?

I think that the powers that be (corporations like Clear Channel and Def Jam) promote images that are unhealthy. These images are especially unhealthy for children and teenagers who may or may not have positive role models. Images such as gunshots in the music, heavy cursing, drug use, etc. Furthermore, some rappers glorify going to jail. I can probably name more rappers that glorify "thug life" than rappers that glorify going to college. I think that's what Geraldo meant.

As far as racism goes, we have a Black president. Yeah, I know about Treyvon Martin and Ferguson but I don't think the image of gangsta rappers helped those cases.

I think Americans turn on their Tv and see Black males with tattoos, jewelry and pants sagging and it perpetuates a negative image.

I would love for you to quit tap dancing and answer the question...............DO YOU BELIEVE HIP HOP HAS CAUSED MORE DAMAGE TO MINORITIES THAN RACISM?

Hold the fuck up @bolded. Please, and lie if you have to......tell me you're not saying there can't be racism because the president is black?

 
nigga said, "as far as racism goes we have a black president"

and "the image of gangsta rappers didn't help the cases of Trayvon Martin and Ferguson"

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