Geraldo Rivera: Hip-Hop’s Done ‘More Damage’ to Minorities Than Racism in the Last Decade..

[5 Grand]

i think the racism is in the fact that "they" manipulate what gets made available based on what speaks to the current great white /jew agenda.

i think that is the one thing both sides of this argument can agree on.

cosign but at the same time this ain't really an argument. One side is dropping sources, data, graphs and numbers...the other side is saying "fuck your data I'm old so I know. I seen the Cosby Show".

The data in question says, "per 100,000"

In 1980 the American Population was 226,545,805 according to the US Census

According the 2010 Census the total US Population was 308,745,538
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004997.html

Accordingly, there are 82,199,733 more people in the United States than there were in 1980.

Lets go back to the statistics

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The statistic you provided clearly and unquestionably says "per 100,000". Even if there was a drop in homicide victimization per 100,000 people (And I have no idea what that statistic has to do with the total amount of crime) There's 82 million more people than there were in 1980 so your statistic proves nothing. Your statistic is a Z-score but the total amount of homicides is still higher than it was in 1980.

In reviewing the statistics you posted, it doesn't say anything at all about "crime". You just posted homicide statistics, dropout statistics and income statistics. There's more to crime than homicides. There's DUIs, burglaries, breaking and entering, forgery, grand theft auto, insider trading and identity theft. All @Stiff did was post statistics regarding the homicide victims per 100,000 people completely ignoring the fact that there's 82 million more Americans than there were in 1980.

Again, the incarceration rate has increased 700 percent since 1970. The population has gone from 200 million to 300 million. Everybody in this thread can't be so stupid to think that the rate of homicides = the amount of crime.

I know ya'll are smarter than that.

And for the record, over the past 5 years or so, incarceration has gone down. Not because there's less crime but because the prisons are so overcrowded judges and legislators had to change sentencing laws. Non violent offenders are doing little to no time in jail. But that doesn't mean less crime, it just means that prisons are overcrowded.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

u lose when u try to compare raw numbers to rates and percentages... but yeah...

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

what y'all saying doesn't match reality...

what has gotten worse for blacks in the last 10 years that can be attributed to hip hop?

simple question... do your googles...

it's not just the acts of violence or lack of education...

it's the living beyond your means lifestyle that is popping right now...

and low and behold what has been one of the most polarizing topics this decade?

shitson!

Hold up... Hip hop is responsible for American consumerism?

Damn u Jay Z!

It may not be responsible for it but it is the global face of it now. I think the overall message of HipHop as a powerful motivational force is being acknowledged by both sides of the aisle but over and underplayed in various areas. We know that crossover came when HipHop stopped spitting in the face of the mainstream and when it embarrassed the flash of cash over substance and growth. Mainstream HipHop is for the most part a regression of the artform even down to the vernacular and dress at this point is mostly a huge regurgitation and simplification of the past with very few artists holding down with music that is a advancement on skills and scope.

Lazy, Ignorant, Lack of substance and decadence is the shallow scope of how the world views America because that is how we present ourselves at every opportunity that is what we put on a pedestal. HipHop is now playing a role in this image and this indoctrination propaganda message debate on this is moot point. Now what matters is understanding than addressing its impact and focusing on the causes of this Id driven Narcissism and apathy within our direct influence...

 

[Meta_Conscious]

them young boys be wilding... all this money and violence...

 

[gamezpog]

Racism, specifically American form of racism, is the most insidious act against man. So, hip hop's influence will never be as negative. No, if Rivera would have removed the racism phrase, then the argument would be a little different. The impact would have still been significant. He makes a great point.

 

[aneed123]

fuck the cosby show...

i remember the smell of white kids burning happy faces into their flesh in honor of Dazed and Confused.

I remember kids in my 7th grade class in Madison alabama wearing stupid assed West Side shirts with the "west side" written in olde english.

i remember watching people carve thug life into their arms when pac died...

i remember everyone and they momma putting Piercing Pagoda on the map with their fake No Limit Chains.

and dont act like I'm the only one that had someone in their yearbook quote Master P.

or get No Limit Soldier tatted on their forearms...

but... i also remember the lead singer of Rage Against The Machine quitting cause nobody was really trying to spark a movement at the time...

bet they wish they listened to him now....

u from Madison? Didnt know that. I know folk that went to sparkman....

 

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[5 Grand]

Source: U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey
http://www.project.org/info.php?recordID=172

 

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mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-young-minorities-will-never-make-it-in-america-following-rap-culture/

Geraldo: Young Minorities Will ‘Never Make It’ in America Following Rap Culture

Geraldo Rivera tonight stood by his comments this week about how destructive hip-hop and rap culture has been to minorities, and told Bill O’Reilly that young minorities will “never make it in mainstream America” if they keep following rap culture.

Rivera admitted it was a mistake to bring up the subject “gratuitously,” but he still stands by all of it. He said the culture is “self-segregating,” and it doesn’t help advance anyone to have their pants ”around their ass.”

Rivera is also troubled by the idea that “you have to be a bad guy” who’s survived a near-death experience to make it in the hip-hop works, as many artists, he said, “give the ethos that you have to be a marginal character and risk everything in a street confrontation.”

 

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mediaite.com/tv/juan-williams-geraldos-right-hip-hop-plays-to-worst-racial-stereotypes/

Juan Williams: Geraldo’s Right, Hip-Hop Plays to ‘Worst Racial Stereotypes’

Juan Williams is behind Geraldo Rivera 100 percent over his comments that hip-hop has done more damage to minorities in the past decade than racism has. Williams supplanted Rivera’s remarks by saying, “In hop hop culture, you can demean and play to the worst racial stereotypes of black people and say you’re celebrating black culture.”

In much of the hip-hop industry, Williams said, black men are made into “sexual deviants” and black women can be referred to as “nothing but a bunch of hoes and bitches.”

RELATED: Geraldo and Roland Martin Explode over Hip-Hop: ‘Nobody Can Out-Street Me!’

And what disturbed him most is that the industry is playing to young, vulnerable black youths, and he doesn’t think it’s helping black culture.

Faux News one their coons to shuck n jive...

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

this thread was killing it we need a rerun...