George Zimmerman Trial Thread (Found Not Guilty Jesus help us...)

[rapmastermind]

what the fuck do you think would help

Using simple logic I'd say, not attacking the man in the first place.

How bout if zimmerman never approached martin in the first place..or better yet call the cops for no reason.He called the cops because he racially profiled trayvon martin..which led him to beileve the break in's in the area was caused by black boys so if he see any black male he will assume that he's "up to no good"

That is the biggest tragedy of this case outside it taking 6 damn weeks to even get an arrest. Racial Profiling will continue but instead of Driving While Black we have walking while black. It's it funny that the Prosecution and Media did everything to say "This isn't about Race" when that's the whole point of the damn case. If Trayvon was a Blonde White Boy walking do you really think Zimmerman would of even called the police? Just cause Black people were involved in a burgulry doesn't make all Blacks criminals but that's exactly what Racial profiling is. Zimmerman saw a Black man and assumed he was a criminal.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

My nigga saying that black people shouldn't arm themselves legally as a form of self defense because it would reinforce stereotypes is some coon shit, PERIOD. Who said anything about just going around killing white people. Da fuck you talking bout? I obviously agree that all the black on black crime needs to stop, but using that shit to neutralize when we take issue with anything else is some weak shit. You see how bold crackers are getting and understand that crackers will be crackers, but you want black people to be sitting ducks in the community because you don't want to offend or rile up the same people who you apparently understand are racist as hell? Yep that makes a lot of sense. You want to strip our people of a legal right to protect themselves because you don't want to make the white man uncomfortable. YES YOU'RE SACRIFICING YOUR OWN PEOPLE CLOWN!!! If some of these aggressive mufuckas decided to run up in one of our hoods where we we're able to actual exist in peace whats the plan then? It'll be duck hunt because they didn't even exercise their right to bear arms. SMH

Here we go wit the coon talk. It's duck hunt no matter how you see it and my point was that many of us can't have guns legally because of our unfair criminal status. You think you gonna fend off crackers with your pea shooters? You gonna manufacture your own guns? What would keep Treyvon from getting shot by somebody legally owning a gun? Should 17 year olds have guns too or 16 year olds or younger? Would he have pulled quicker? What if it was fair and fools like Zimmerman didn't have a gun in the first place? Who makes the laws on who should legally own a gun anyway? How deep are you thinking about this? So a black man with a gun is going to hold off a swat with more guns right? No dummy, we need to do better and if it is that much of a threat regardless, then maybe we should consider going back to the motherland because you not doing a damn thing with a strap. My point was that many of our black kids have guns already and they are using it on each other clown..

Can't figure out if you're trying to say that Black people shouldn't own guns.

Nope, I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying that should be our rallying cry and our way to solve the issue because it's an asinine strategy if that's all you plan on relying on which seems to be the main thing people are screaming in this thread. I'm also saying guns aren't going to do shit vs people who obviously don't care about us and happen to be the ones manufacturing and creating laws for these guns. If we do such a thing, we damn sure shouldn't be so overt and brazing about it because you are showing your hand and it should be our final defense and effort. I'm also saying we have plenty of guns but are using them on ourselves as a people and we should make that a loud issue as loud if not more loud then this because we are committing self genocide. What stops them from doing us like they did us before? Time for a new strategy because being armed didn't work for the Panthers or Malcolm X. But they did have great success in other areas not involving guns.

Now with this post it's more clear where you coming from. I never said that the only solution was for black people to get guns, I agree as far as strengthening the community of course. I'm saying why not make sure you utilize every legal method that is available to you to defend yourself, especially if you understand that you're in hostile territory. It seemed like you we're saying that we shouldn't even bother to own guns at all and put ourselves in even more of a disadvantage because they will continue to stereotype us and have bigger guns and power which is ridiculous. So since we're outgunned don't even bother to own a gun?

I just don't see guns being very useful in our scenario and it's been proving to be the case. We aren't just outgunned here, we are disorganized as a people. And yes, being outgunned isn't a smart strategy if all you rely on is guns. It's custards last stand.

 

[G.Avant]

My nigga saying that black people shouldn't arm themselves legally as a form of self defense because it would reinforce stereotypes is some coon shit, PERIOD. Who said anything about just going around killing white people. Da fuck you talking bout? I obviously agree that all the black on black crime needs to stop, but using that shit to neutralize when we take issue with anything else is some weak shit. You see how bold crackers are getting and understand that crackers will be crackers, but you want black people to be sitting ducks in the community because you don't want to offend or rile up the same people who you apparently understand are racist as hell? Yep that makes a lot of sense. You want to strip our people of a legal right to protect themselves because you don't want to make the white man uncomfortable. YES YOU'RE SACRIFICING YOUR OWN PEOPLE CLOWN!!! If some of these aggressive mufuckas decided to run up in one of our hoods where we we're able to actual exist in peace whats the plan then? It'll be duck hunt because they didn't even exercise their right to bear arms. SMH

Here we go wit the coon talk. It's duck hunt no matter how you see it and my point was that many of us can't have guns legally because of our unfair criminal status. You think you gonna fend off crackers with your pea shooters? You gonna manufacture your own guns? What would keep Treyvon from getting shot by somebody legally owning a gun? Should 17 year olds have guns too or 16 year olds or younger? Would he have pulled quicker? What if it was fair and fools like Zimmerman didn't have a gun in the first place? Who makes the laws on who should legally own a gun anyway? How deep are you thinking about this? So a black man with a gun is going to hold off a swat with more guns right? No dummy, we need to do better and if it is that much of a threat regardless, then maybe we should consider going back to the motherland because you not doing a damn thing with a strap. My point was that many of our black kids have guns already and they are using it on each other clown..

Can't figure out if you're trying to say that Black people shouldn't own guns.

Nope, I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying that should be our rallying cry and our way to solve the issue because it's an asinine strategy if that's all you plan on relying on which seems to be the main thing people are screaming in this thread. I'm also saying guns aren't going to do shit vs people who obviously don't care about us and happen to be the ones manufacturing and creating laws for these guns. If we do such a thing, we damn sure shouldn't be so overt and brazing about it because you are showing your hand and it should be our final defense and effort. I'm also saying we have plenty of guns but are using them on ourselves as a people and we should make that a loud issue as loud if not more loud then this because we are committing self genocide. What stops them from doing us like they did us before? Time for a new strategy because being armed didn't work for the Panthers or Malcolm X. But they did have great success in other areas not involving guns.

Now with this post it's more clear where you coming from. I never said that the only solution was for black people to get guns, I agree as far as strengthening the community of course. I'm saying why not make sure you utilize every legal method that is available to you to defend yourself, especially if you understand that you're in hostile territory. It seemed like you we're saying that we shouldn't even bother to own guns at all and put ourselves in even more of a disadvantage because they will continue to stereotype us and have bigger guns and power which is ridiculous. So since we're outgunned don't even bother to own a gun?

I just don't see guns being very useful in our scenario and it's been proving to be the case. We aren't just outgunned here, we are disorganized as a people. And yes, being outgunned isn't a smart strategy if all you rely on is guns. It's custards last stand.

Why you keep on saying if we only relying on guns though? I never said that was the golden solution to our problems.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

what the fuck do you think would help

Using simple logic I'd say, not attacking the man in the first place.

How bout if zimmerman never approached martin in the first place..or better yet call the cops for no reason.He called the cops because he racially profiled trayvon martin..which led him to beileve the break in's in the area was caused by black boys so if he see any black male he will assume that he's "up to no good"

That is the biggest tragedy of this case outside it taking 6 damn weeks to even get an arrest. Racial Profiling will continue but instead of Driving While Black we have walking while black. It's it funny that the Prosecution and Media did everything to say "This isn't about Race" when that's the whole point of the damn case. If Trayvon was a Blonde White Boy walking do you really think Zimmerman would of even called the police? Just cause Black people were involved in a burgulry doesn't make all Blacks criminals but that's exactly what Racial profiling is. Zimmerman saw a Black man and assumed he was a criminal.

Hell to Tha NO!

 

[GettinLo]

 

[G Mack]

Florida Aint Shit, whats new.............

 

[Jabu_Rule]

My nigga saying that black people shouldn't arm themselves legally as a form of self defense because it would reinforce stereotypes is some coon shit, PERIOD. Who said anything about just going around killing white people. Da fuck you talking bout? I obviously agree that all the black on black crime needs to stop, but using that shit to neutralize when we take issue with anything else is some weak shit. You see how bold crackers are getting and understand that crackers will be crackers, but you want black people to be sitting ducks in the community because you don't want to offend or rile up the same people who you apparently understand are racist as hell? Yep that makes a lot of sense. You want to strip our people of a legal right to protect themselves because you don't want to make the white man uncomfortable. YES YOU'RE SACRIFICING YOUR OWN PEOPLE CLOWN!!! If some of these aggressive mufuckas decided to run up in one of our hoods where we we're able to actual exist in peace whats the plan then? It'll be duck hunt because they didn't even exercise their right to bear arms. SMH

Here we go wit the coon talk. It's duck hunt no matter how you see it and my point was that many of us can't have guns legally because of our unfair criminal status. You think you gonna fend off crackers with your pea shooters? You gonna manufacture your own guns? What would keep Treyvon from getting shot by somebody legally owning a gun? Should 17 year olds have guns too or 16 year olds or younger? Would he have pulled quicker? What if it was fair and fools like Zimmerman didn't have a gun in the first place? Who makes the laws on who should legally own a gun anyway? How deep are you thinking about this? So a black man with a gun is going to hold off a swat with more guns right? No dummy, we need to do better and if it is that much of a threat regardless, then maybe we should consider going back to the motherland because you not doing a damn thing with a strap. My point was that many of our black kids have guns already and they are using it on each other clown..

Can't figure out if you're trying to say that Black people shouldn't own guns.

Nope, I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying that should be our rallying cry and our way to solve the issue because it's an asinine strategy if that's all you plan on relying on which seems to be the main thing people are screaming in this thread. I'm also saying guns aren't going to do shit vs people who obviously don't care about us and happen to be the ones manufacturing and creating laws for these guns. If we do such a thing, we damn sure shouldn't be so overt and brazing about it because you are showing your hand and it should be our final defense and effort. I'm also saying we have plenty of guns but are using them on ourselves as a people and we should make that a loud issue as loud if not more loud then this because we are committing self genocide. What stops them from doing us like they did us before? Time for a new strategy because being armed didn't work for the Panthers or Malcolm X. But they did have great success in other areas not involving guns.

Now with this post it's more clear where you coming from. I never said that the only solution was for black people to get guns, I agree as far as strengthening the community of course. I'm saying why not make sure you utilize every legal method that is available to you to defend yourself, especially if you understand that you're in hostile territory. It seemed like you we're saying that we shouldn't even bother to own guns at all and put ourselves in even more of a disadvantage because they will continue to stereotype us and have bigger guns and power which is ridiculous. So since we're outgunned don't even bother to own a gun?

I just don't see guns being very useful in our scenario and it's been proving to be the case. We aren't just outgunned here, we are disorganized as a people. And yes, being outgunned isn't a smart strategy if all you rely on is guns. It's custards last stand.

Why you keep on saying if we only relying on guns though? I never said that was the golden solution to our problems.

Seems to be a very large focus. But I'll leave it alone and we are on the same page for the most part.

 

[cobbland]

So where do we go from here?

Stop financially supporting the states that have "Stand Your Ground Laws."

From their "major colleges" to their businesses.

*Yes I know many HBCU's are located in the south, I attended one*

Many states have enacted “stand your ground” laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. The following is a list of states with stand your ground laws on the books. This list is limited to those states whose legislatures have gone through the process of enacting laws that specifically affirm an individual’s right to stand their ground when defending themselves against a threat. Other states may have adopted a stand your ground doctrine through judicial interpretation of their self-defense laws, but those states are not included in this list.

Alabama

Arizona

Florida

Georgia

Indiana

Kentucky

Louisiana

Mississippi

Montana

Nevada

New Hampshire

Oklahoma

Pennsylvania

Tennessee

Texas

Utah
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/states-that-have-stand-your-ground-laws.html

This won't really help. Zimmerman claimed defense under the regular self-defense law.

For example: Maryland doesn't have "stand your ground", but the same law would still apply to Zimmerman's claim:

Self-defense is a defense, and the defendant must be found not guilty if all of the following three factors are present:

1) The defendant actually believed that was in immediate and imminent danger of bodily harm.

2) The defendant's belief was reasonable.

3) The defendant used no more force than was reasonably necessary to defend in light of the threatened or actual harm.

 

[MR.CJ]

You dont get what im saying. NONE OF THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED AND TRAYVON MARTIN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY IF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN DIDNT APPROACH HIM.

Is that marissa?

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Florida Aint Shit, whats new.............

Thats the new redskins logo?

 

[Jabu_Rule]

You dont get what im saying. NONE OF THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED AND TRAYVON MARTIN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY IF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN DIDNT APPROACH HIM.

You have no proof whatsoever George Zimmerman approached Trayvon Martin, nor does approaching someone allowing the retaliation on the level of a brutal physical attack - which by the way is what resulted in his death, not the color of his skin, not his addiction to lean, not the fact that he was already caught with stolen property, not even the fact that he just moved in and was already casing houses for his next fix hookup... None of that matters, what matters is his physical attack on GZ which resulted in his death, not what GZ did.

GZ took on the role to be neighborhood watch. Personally with jobs dealing with the public, I'm always aware of the potential to incite someone if i don't handle a misunderstanding correctly. If someone takes on such a position, they have the greater responsibility to make proper judgement calls as so not to put themselves and others in in the community danger. What if Treyvon had a gun and was criminal and shot Zimmerman? Anyway i see it, Zimmerman was reckless in his actions. First off in such a situation, he could have held back and waited for the police or stayed in the car and flashed his flashlight and announced his intention to protect the area which his parent resides.

 

[BIRGGin]

This is what racism actually looks like in modern America:http://theconservativetreehouse.com...derstand-the-fraud-post-verdict-of-acquittal/

 

[damobb2deep]

So where do we go from here?

Stop financially supporting the states that have "Stand Your Ground Laws."

From their "major colleges" to their businesses.

*Yes I know many HBCU's are located in the south, I attended one*

Many states have enacted “stand your ground” laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. The following is a list of states with stand your ground laws on the books. This list is limited to those states whose legislatures have gone through the process of enacting laws that specifically affirm an individual’s right to stand their ground when defending themselves against a threat. Other states may have adopted a stand your ground doctrine through judicial interpretation of their self-defense laws, but those states are not included in this list.

Alabama

Arizona

Florida

Georgia

Indiana

Kentucky

Louisiana

Mississippi

Montana

Nevada

New Hampshire

Oklahoma

Pennsylvania

Tennessee

Texas

Utah
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/states-that-have-stand-your-ground-laws.html

This won't really help. Zimmerman claimed defense under the regular self-defense law.

For example: Maryland doesn't have "stand your ground", but the same law would still apply to Zimmerman's claim:

Self-defense is a defense, and the defendant must be found not guilty if all of the following three factors are present:

1) The defendant actually believed that was in immediate and imminent danger of bodily harm.

2) The defendant's belief was reasonable.

3) The defendant used no more force than was reasonably necessary to defend in light of the threatened or actual harm.

 

[stringer bell]

 

[BIRGGin]

This is what racism actually looks like in modern America:http://theconservativetreehouse.com...derstand-the-fraud-post-verdict-of-acquittal/

 

[Rock_Well]

I rly don't believe Zim claim of self defense should've held up. But since the prosecution had problems in showing who 'started it' legally, and in disproving the self-defense claim he gets to walk. No one said the system was perfect. That's just the rules. you gotta learn the rules.

 

[Bussy_Getta]

I ain't een gon troll

 

[Bussy_Getta]

I ain't een gon troll

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Free Boosie

 

[Bussy_Getta]

Leave that nigga in there b