Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread

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a.mann;8057977 said:
Rasta.;8055558 said:
You niggas throwing the rape term loosely here. They were consumating their marriage, she shouldn't have consented to the marriage knowing the character that he is. It's the world they lived in then..

The real issue is no one likes Ramsey.And the actor who plays him isn't famous

Khal Drogo did the the very same thing to Daenerys,

but the difference is most people happened to have loved that character

while women swooned and fantasized about the actor Jason Momoa...."taking them in such a passionate way"

I can always count on you to succinctly connect the dots. I'm amazed at the uproar caused by this scene...
 
THIRDSUPREME;8057665 said:
AggyAF;8057537 said:
Plutarch;8057391 said:
AggyAF;8056480 said:
the rapes of sansa by ramsey and cersei by jaime aren't in the book so i find it unnecessary

Yes, you find it unnecessary, but others, like me, don't. Like I said, it adds to realism and characterization. Isn't that obvious? Is it really even a big deal?

You seem to suggest that things that happen in the show that don't happen in the book are unnecessary. That doesn't make sense to me. So the rapes in the show can only be necessary and validated if they happened in the book? So the sansa and cersei rapes are disqualified from being "legitimate" because they didn't happen in the book?

I think that it's been established that the show is partially independent from the books. You're trying to force the show to be the books. I think that once you look at the show as a work of art in itself, then these issues start to disappear.

AggyAF;8056480 said:
and just a tool by HBO to garner views and make controversy

That's very possible, but I see no strong evidence to be so sure about that. The fact that you seem so certain only makes me more certain about how biased you seem. Once again, you seem to completely ignore the realism and characterization aspect and the fact that the show is not the same as the books and hasn't been way before this point.

Of course, im biased, i personally don't care for the naked dudea and gay sex and rape being shown so explicitly in the show. If yall need that thats cool.

But you aint trip when he cut reeks dick off and tortured him for an entire season. Nah, there's no hypocrisy in that.

and the reek storyline is apart of the book not something they made up
 
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Plutarch;8057604 said:
AggyAF;8057537 said:
Of course, im biased,

Yes, biased enough to complain about your pet peeves when your pet peeves don't even have much to do with the issue. Get over yourself.

AggyAF;8057537 said:
i personally don't care for the naked dudea and gay sex and rape being shown so explicitly in the show. If yall need that thats cool.

Stop it. Nobody's talking about naked dudes and gay sex except you.

i really don't know why me saying its rape and unnecessary upsets you so much. the "art" argument is weak as fuck . Maybe you're biased
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So let me ask ya'll saying it was rape a question. What if Ramsay was nice and gentle with it? Would it have still been rape? Sansa didn't want to do it either way, but she had resigned herself to it because it was part of the plan. The sex being rougher than it should have been doesn't change that.

You're making it seem like Sansa was some random chick that was snatched off the street and was too afraid to resist. That's not what happened. Sansa is executing a plan, and sex with Ramsay was part that she had already accepted. She was given the choice to take that step way back when Littlefinger first told her the plan, and she agreed to go with it. No, she did not agree to Theon watching or it being so rough, and both of those things are vile and despicable, but they don't change the fact that Sansa had already resigned herself to marrying Ramsey and consummating that marriage was a known consequence of it.

Ramsey violated and brutalized her, but he didn't rape her and it's still silly to say that they went to far with this off screen scene after all the shit that he's already done. The dude is a psycho and been that way since his true identity was revealed.

S/N: Jaime didn't rape Cersei in the book, but he did rape her in the show.

 
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The Lonious Monk;8058267 said:
So let me ask ya'll saying it was rape a question. What if Ramsay was nice and gentle with it? Would it have still been rape? Sansa didn't want to do it either way, but she had resigned herself to it because it was part of the plan. The sex being rougher than it should have been doesn't change that.

You're making it seem like Sansa was some random chick that was snatched off the street and was too afraid to resist. That's not what happened. Sansa is executing a plan, and sex with Ramsay was part that she had already accepted. She was given the choice to take that step way back when Littlefinger first told her the plan, and she agreed to go with it. No, she did not agree to Theon watching or it being so rough, and both of those things are vile and despicable, but they don't change the fact that Sansa had already resigned herself to marrying Ramsey and consummating that marriage was a known consequence of it.

Ramsey violated and brutalized her, but he didn't rape her and it's still silly to say that they went to far with this off screen scene after all the shit that he's already done. The dude is a psycho and been that way since his true identity was revealed.

S/N: Jaime didn't rape Cersei in the book, but he did rape her in the show.

this will be my last post about this since yall really upset over this but the bolded would falter quite easily in court

The term “consent” means a freely given agreement to the conduct at issue by a competent person. An expression of lack of consent through words or conduct means there is no consent. Lack of verbal or physical resistance or submission resulting from the use of force, threat of force, or placing another person in fear does not constitute consent. A current or previous dating or social or sexual relationship by itself or the manner of dress of the person involved with the accused in the conduct at issue shall not constitute consent.

10 U.S. Code § 920 - Art. 120. Rape and sexual assault generally
 
Lmao...and this is why we consider yall mofos prude af in Holland...sexual/rape scenes got Most of yall shook....mofos dying in a shitload of brutal ways and its cool, but when there is some rough sex or a bitch gets raped, yall crying wolf out there.
 
OK enough of this rape talk....Lets just all agree to disagree....Anyway has anybody took the time to listen to the full song of The Rains of Castamere


This shit is fuckin gangsta... R.I.P. Triple O.G. Tywin
 
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Seriously, no one is in an uproar over the scene, no one gives a fuck about how brutal it was. The argument simply was if it qualified as rape or not. Period. You niggas bringing in other fucked up scenes that happened on the show to strengthen your argument have failed to see what the argument was about in the first place, ol' I don't understand the argument so I'm going to bring up more brutal scenes ass niggas. Was it rape... or nah?

Some say yes, some say no. That's that. It has nothing to do with other scenes on the show.

Just like it was mentioned earlier though. Niggas getting lynched for looking at white women wasn't considered murder in a certain time period, but all you niggas still call it murder. Smarten up.
 
Yeah we still talking about rape

Sansa doesn't want to marry Ramsay she was just dropped off by Littlefinger and left by herself in hostile territory she had no choice but to play the part.

Ramsay straight up told Sansa to get naked and when she wasn't quick enough he ripped her clothes off and forced her down on the bed.

All the while he told Theon to stay in the room and watch because.....obviously this is not a pleasant act and causes pain to all involved but ramsay.

In GOT a marriage is consummated to bring an heir into the family which is usually the purpose of all marriages in this society.

I mean technically the same thing happened to Dany with Drogo although he wasn't nearly as rapey and antagonistic as Ramsay

A lot of the context of these GOT marriages changes when you actually love the person. Most people getting married in GOT aren't carrying on like Ramsay on their wedding nights.
 
now I see why the prince of Dorne wasn't fuckin wit them sand snake hoes. Them bitches wack as fuck like rappers kids. think cause they father was a trill nigga it automatically extends to them. Maybe in heart but not in skills. Or in brains with that dumb ass plan. That nigga Oberyn turning over in his grave after that bullshit!

next ep should start with Slim Charles reprimanding them hoes

slim: In the water gardens... yall try to snatch a lil bitch out the water gardens in broad daylight? And yall don't get the bitch neither?

 
Snatch Some Collars;8059661 said:
now I see why the prince of Dorne wasn't fuckin wit them sand snake hoes. Them bitches wack as fuck like rappers kids. think cause they father was a trill nigga it automatically extends to them. Maybe in heart but not in skills. Or in brains with that dumb ass plan. That nigga Oberyn turning over in his grave after that bullshit!

next ep should start with Slim Charles reprimanding them hoes

slim: In the water gardens... yall try to snatch a lil bitch out the water gardens in broad daylight? And yall don't get the bitch neither?

this is one of the funniest shits ive read on this site
 
So what if he raped her. He also cut off Theon's dick and tortured that fucker for months. Now shit got real because Ramsey forcibly put his dick in Sansa!?!

Ol' "clutch the pearls" ass niggas.

He is the villain committing villainy and This is goddamn GOT. Foul shit happens on the regular.

Niggas catching feelings and boo hooing like life is fair. In reality bad people live while good people die....This happens ALL OF THE TIME.

Bad people with power do fucked up shit to weaker people. Sansa was a goddamn idiot and thought that life was all fairy tales and those damned lemon cakes. Well, what happens to people who go through life thinking like that? They get fucked up the ass..... just like the former Lady Stark.
 
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I did find the scene uneccesary and shitty as I've stated earlier.

But there have been far more egregious acts than rape in the show. Dudes gettin their dicks cut off for Christs sake.

Oberyn was trying to kill a horrible, evil, vile human being to avenge a RAPE and MURDER, and he gets his head popped like sansa cherry and people are just like "oh wow that was graphic can't wait for the finale" Evil triumped in just as a digusting way as sansa's rape, people just can't analyze it critically.

I just thought the rape was lazy writing. I understand rape has to be in some parts of movies, but this rape was void entirely of artistic integrity.
 
AggyAF;8058238 said:
i really don't know why me saying its rape and unnecessary upsets you so much.

Um, I'm not sure why you think that I'm upset. People who say that sometimes are the ones upset themselves. I'm not even sure why that would even be relevant. Why not just stick to the issue?

And I don't care whether you call it rape or not. Like I said, it can go either way. I can agree either way. So that point is also irrelevant. Again, you're just avoiding this issue.

AggyAF;8058238 said:
the "art" argument is weak as fuck .

Lol, why is that? I disagree.

AggyAF;8058238 said:
Maybe you're biased

Nope. Unlike you, I try not to let my feelings get in the way.
 
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