Game of Thrones- Season 2

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matt-;4265493 said:
for the book readers, has it explained exactly what the 'white walkers' are. or whoever those human looking creatures are that were beyond the wall? I'm guessing they maybe inhabited the land long before humans ever came? What is their motivation for crossing the wall? I imagine there is more to it than just "oh winter is coming, lets go fuck shit up"

let me know.

i don't think they've fully explained what 'they' are besides the description I gave you, I know they came when the first men and the children of the forest had a piece treaty, and almost destroyed everything until the legendary hero azor ahai came with the sword forged of fire called the light bringer and drove them away, it says that when the white walkers come back azor ahai will be reborn which is who the red preistess and Stennis thinks he is, when she meets jon snow she has a vision that he is really Azor Ahai surrounded by skulls,with the lightbringer sword and if he loses the world will go into darkness, that's how powerful the white walkers are, they serve a God or master called The Great Other, in this next book shit is about to get real

many, including myself believe that jon snow is really Reaghar Targaryen's and Lyanna Stark's son, because in the book her last words to ned stark is 'promise me' which haunts him in his mind. The prophecy says the prince who was promised will be born of fire and ice, which is the title of the books. targaryen+stark=fire and ice, and he and danarys are going to be key in fighting the white walkers because without them, the seven kingdoms will be crushed, atleast that's my theory hope I didn't spoil too much for you.
 
matt-;4265570 said:
and what is up with the final scene? is the daughter marrying dude donating his male offspring to the whitewalkers or whatever creatures those are? if so thats pretty awesome and i wonder if its some sort of truce and the monsters go on and raise the children in some zombie like way

He sacrificing them to the white walkers, I think they in turn become white walkers or wights, and from doing this he has no boys who are threats and the walkers spare him and his daughter-wifes

 
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!!!!

dude sacrificin them kids. i hope he dont turn john snow over to the white walkers. ill be crushed if they 'ned stark' my nigga john this season

 
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Robb really is an idiot when you think about it. He sent back theon to his father when theon was being held captive from his father for all that time.

Shit ole boy should just hang back and let his mom do everything for him. He stay messing up
 
f.e.d.s.;4268593 said:
Greyjoy's gonna have some decisions to make. His pops stayed ethering him

LMAO @ him askin Theon if he paid for all that nice shit he had with gold or if he "paid the iron price". Then callin him a whore when he told him he paid with gold. What type of reception did Theon think he was gonna get askin his dad to fight with the niggas that took his son and his land away from him? Theon got shit on and he deserved it cuz he's a douche.

 
thefabmd2dc;4269004 said:
Robb really is an idiot when you think about it. He sent back theon to his father when theon was being held captive from his father for all that time.

Shit ole boy should just hang back and let his mom do everything for him. He stay messing up

Mind you it was a stupid decision but I get why he made it. He had to do something. They need ships if they have any chance of taking King's Landing. Theon was right about that but that was a catch 22 no matter which way you look at it. If he attacks without ships they are massively outnumbered so they would need Greyjoy but what do you tell (and how do you trust) someone you've already taken everything from and has already rebelled against Ned & Robert? And Cat was right about that point but Robb had to at least take that chance or risk losing the war all together. If anything he thought if Theon can't get him onboard we'll just keep it moving with what we have and see if Cat can get Renly on our side. I don't theink he ever thought about how the elder Greyjoy would attack Winterfell since he knows Robb is not there now.

 
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real talk, some of these folks need to team up with Khaleesi, cause once winter comes it aint gonna matter who is on the iron thone. it don't matter how many troops you got, if you aint got dragons, you aint shit.
 
matt-;4270252 said:
real talk, some of these folks need to team up with Khaleesi, cause once winter comes it aint gonna matter who is on the iron thone. it don't matter how many troops you got, if you aint got dragons, you aint shit.

Word... 1 Dragon can take out a whole army with a few breathes. And Dany got 3 of em....

 
As much sense as it makes for Renly and Robb to work together, I think his moms efforts are gonna fall on deaf ears, unfortunately. Seeing how Renly wanted Ned to support him to be King but Ned wanted to go the correct way.

Now that Renly has everything in place he's gonna be even more on his high horse about helping someone else much less the Starks who would want part of the realm for themselves.

Robb should have started with sending a messenger to the Greyjoys and Stannis just to get a feel for where they stand and see who are enemies and those who could be allies.

It may get overlooked as just honor but Ned died essentially for Stannis to be King, Robb has to respect that or have some sort of feelings about it.

Btw judging from the preview of the next episode I think needle gonna get a body or two on it.
 
Ibex;4270918 said:
Got them white walkers taking those babies home and crushing them like an 8 piece.

I don't think they killing the baby boys tho. I think they turnin them into white walkers. Remember the very first scene of the very first episode...before he saw the white walker they showed him looking @ little boy that had blue eyes like the white walkers...

 
S.jR.;4270875 said:
As much sense as it makes for Renly and Robb to work together, I think his moms efforts are gonna fall on deaf ears, unfortunately. Seeing how Renly wanted Ned to support him to be King but Ned wanted to go the correct way.

Now that Renly has everything in place he's gonna be even more on his high horse about helping someone else much less the Starks who would want part of the realm for themselves.

Robb should have started with sending a messenger to the Greyjoys and Stannis just to get a feel for where they stand and see who are enemies and those who could be allies.

It may get overlooked as just honor but Ned died essentially for Stannis to be King, Robb has to respect that or have some sort of feelings about it.

Btw judging from the preview of the next episode I think needle gonna get a body or two on it.

I get what you're saying...Ned wasn't really trying to have Stannis be King because he thought he was the better choice. I think its because he was the only one that he knew would be all about the truth. But he also knew Stannis is all about war too which is all Ned knows. Ned knew there wouldn't be no politics going on under his rule. It would be more like marshal law than anything but there would be order. Like Stannis says "they will bend the knee or be destoyed" But I get why now Robb & all the other nothern banners would rather just be seperated from all of that because as long as there is only 1 to rule the seven kingdoms there's always gonna be shady shit and war going on with people that had nothing to do with it getting caught in the middle. The North is all about honor. The Baratheons and Lannisters are all about power. and as long as power is up for grabbs the North is gonna be caught in the middle because whoever claims to be king will want the northern armies fighting for them. For Robb its about so much more than power if it was still all about getting Sansa and Arya back he would just trade Jamie for them and pull back but now with Ned dead its fallen on him to be the leader and he has to think about whats best from the North and whats best for the North is to be seperate from everyone else.
 
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'Game of Thrones' renewed for third season

by James Hibberd

You haven’t seen anything yet: Game of Thrones has been officially renewed for a third season by HBO. The network ordered another round of the fantasy hit, which recently debuted its second season to record ratings, then followed up with a nearly identical performance this week.

The third season is expected to be more or less based on the first half of George R.R. Martin’s A Storm of Swords — the third novel of his “Song of Ice and Fire” series of fantasy best-sellers. Long a fan favorite of the book series, Swords has several dramatic twists and confrontations (so … save the date!). Given the book’s length (the paperback edition is 1,216 pages) and action-packed content, producers plan to break up the novel into two seasons. HBO is not confirming if season three is another 10-episode order.


“As George and all his fans have said for a long time, there’s no way to do [Swords] in a single season, so it’s being broken into two,” said executive producer David Benioff during a recent interview with EW. “We’re still kind of figuring out exactly what goes where. We don’t want it to feel like a two-part season… From the beginning we’d always prayed we’d get to season 3 at least because, you know, two of our favorite scenes from the entire saga are in season 3.”

So far Thrones is averaging 3.9 million viewers for debut episodes this season, with the second season premiere’s all-viewing total up to 8.3 million viewers and counting. EW’s recap of Sunday night’s sex-stuffed episode is here.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/10/game-of-thrones-renewed-3/

 
theon is about to surprise a lot of people, lets just say he becomes more concerned wih impressing his father than respecting his "brother" Robb
 
PaperPlaneJane;4270202 said:
thefabmd2dc;4269004 said:
Robb really is an idiot when you think about it. He sent back theon to his father when theon was being held captive from his father for all that time.

Shit ole boy should just hang back and let his mom do everything for him. He stay messing up

Mind you it was a stupid decision but I get why he made it. He had to do something. They need ships if they have any chance of taking King's Landing. Theon was right about that but that was a catch 22 no matter which way you look at it. If he attacks without ships they are massively outnumbered so they would need Greyjoy but what do you tell (and how do you trust) someone you've already taken everything from and has already rebelled against Ned & Robert? And Cat was right about that point but Robb had to at least take that chance or risk losing the war all together. If anything he thought if Theon can't get him onboard we'll just keep it moving with what we have and see if Cat can get Renly on our side. I don't theink he ever thought about how the elder Greyjoy would attack Winterfell since he knows Robb is not there now.

See the thing was that Cat didn't trust Theon to go as an envoy to Baylon because he was their hostage. He was their leverage over Baylon. Robb basically got rid of that while Cat just wanted to send someone else so they wouldn't lose that hold over him.

Robb was so set in his ways about trusting Theon that it ended up biting him in the ass. I mean Cat is basically giving him the best advice in the books but in the show they sort of cloud over this by making her focus on her kids while in the book shes really come to terms with not seeing them and decided to be by Robbs side.

 
jonlakadeadmic;4271301 said:
theon is about to surprise a lot of people, lets just say he becomes more concerned wih impressing his father than respecting his "brother" Robb

not totally surprising, you could tell he felt sonned by his dad and sister. and definitely a bit inferior compared to her. and a total disappointment in his father's eyes. and it makes sense that it would distract him from the original mission and the original person that he is supposed to be listening to
 
thefabmd2dc;4271314 said:
PaperPlaneJane;4270202 said:
thefabmd2dc;4269004 said:
Robb really is an idiot when you think about it. He sent back theon to his father when theon was being held captive from his father for all that time.

Shit ole boy should just hang back and let his mom do everything for him. He stay messing up

Mind you it was a stupid decision but I get why he made it. He had to do something. They need ships if they have any chance of taking King's Landing. Theon was right about that but that was a catch 22 no matter which way you look at it. If he attacks without ships they are massively outnumbered so they would need Greyjoy but what do you tell (and how do you trust) someone you've already taken everything from and has already rebelled against Ned & Robert? And Cat was right about that point but Robb had to at least take that chance or risk losing the war all together. If anything he thought if Theon can't get him onboard we'll just keep it moving with what we have and see if Cat can get Renly on our side. I don't theink he ever thought about how the elder Greyjoy would attack Winterfell since he knows Robb is not there now.

See the thing was that Cat didn't trust Theon to go as an envoy to Baylon because he was their hostage. He was their leverage over Baylon. Robb basically got rid of that while Cat just wanted to send someone else so they wouldn't lose that hold over him.

Robb was so set in his ways about trusting Theon that it ended up biting him in the ass. I mean Cat is basically giving him the best advice in the books but in the show they sort of cloud over this by making her focus on her kids while in the book shes really come to terms with not seeing them and decided to be by Robbs side.

Very true. the show does kind cloud over her reasoning with her being all about her kids. Robb truly sees Theon as a brother, so that trust came so easily that he didn't even think about all the different consequences of sending him there. I think Theon's intentions were meant well tho when he made the suggestion to have Baylon join them. Like he said, Ned raised him to be honorable and do whats right. I mean although his other brothers did get killed in the rebellion...Ned never mistreated him. He raised him as a son. I don't think he expected his father to be like that and once Baylon and his sis shitted on him basically callin him soft and unworthy thats where the inner conflict begins between being loyal to the family that raised him from a child or be loyal to a father he's never known but wants to be accepted by.
 

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