Funkmaster Flex Dissing Jay-Z in new rant over Jay's Life + Times website
Sion;7722191 said:
We as outsiders looking in don't really know how far back strained Jay-Z and Dame Dash relationship was. That is why I would say from the outside looking in Jay moves comes suspect because it seems when the well runs dry these niggas have a problem with Jay. As far as the Roc split goes, Dame use to address Jay as his artist not business partner in plenty of videos, so I don't even want to imagine what was being said or done in the background. Not stanning for Jay, just always believed there is two sides to a story and the less fortunate in the situation will always paint themselves as the victim.
What one may see as going to far or getting too personal may be not going far enough to the other cause they know from personal experience and interaction if that person was in their shoes, they have or would do the same thing. I can list all the times Jay (allegedly) paid Dame taxes or antics affect potential dealings that could have netted them money we would never know about.
Plus music executives do that all the time, make the artist feel like family to discard them like yesterday trash. I would counter they do it in much a more slimy way, (rob artist of their royalties with fucked up contracts) yet when it comes from a entity or white figure head its business, if its from a black artist its cold and calculated. Not saying Jay is without faults, just using Dame, beans, Dehaven, ect aren't the best examples since they come across feeling Jay owe them something.
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amenhotepiv;7722583 said:
He has made more statements since then talking about her sexual behavior And if Jay Z is a pimp then Beyonce must be a ?????. You jigga warriors can pick up dumb ass double entredes about drug dealing but cant see this outright disrespect. Fuck divide and conquer he has a white man of noteriety publicly dissing him and his wife on front page news outlets and he has yet to respond or threaten to shut him down but everytime someone black got a problem with Jay Z here go you cheerleaders with "jay z is going to buy hot 97" "flex is done" "dont mess with Jay Z" like he some kind of teflon don. He is a bitch nigga like i been saying for years. A petty ass coward that choose battles.
Jay Z said we are more alike than different and his music will bring us together. Huckabee said rap was garbage and Obama shouldnt let his kids listen to songs about his wife drinking and having sex. Jay Z uncle tom color dont exist logic isnt adding up right now. Why is he letting this white man get away with calling his wife a whore on FRONT PAGE of CNN,MSNBC,FOX but so pressed about Dipset going on chitling circut tour???
Sad what this thread come to, but juat wanted to highlight:
"I dont believe you can abandon a grown ass man" has got to be the nail in the coffin to any 'Jay z left ___' argument.
Hilariously simple yet true.
How DO you abandon a grown ass man??! Why have none of us ever said this so poignantly? Lmao
"I dont believe you can abandon a grown ass man" has got to be the nail in the coffin to any 'Jay z left ___' argument.
Hilariously simple yet true.
How DO you abandon a grown ass man??! Why have none of us ever said this so poignantly? Lmao
5th Letter;7721907 said:
In the vein of no man can be abandoned...
When the last time you heard a ngga say he was betrayed??! Lol What kinda Shakespearian tragedy is this?
Also doesnt it say a bit much yall/they are actually calling this man HOV? Then wondering why he actlin like he 'above' them? Lol Hov? Really?
Is this thing on?!
blackamerica;7721848 said:
This the same Beans that went out and brought 2 Bentley's off his 1st album selling gold and blowing his money like other members of State Prop (see Peedi Crakk)...same Beans that kept getting locked up with the Roc paying his legal fees...same Beans that has now admitted his biggest issue was more with Dame than with Jay and how Dame is the one who screwed him out of his money? It really shows just how much people think you're supposed to help another person. Alot of what ya'll talking about is hand holding an adult through life not helping them. You help somebody by showing them how to help themselves not by giving them hand out after handout
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usmarin3;7721924 said:
This. There's always a sense of entitlement when it comes to hip-hop artists..
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S2J;7722774 said:
That abandon a grown azz man shit is the talkin point to every misguided Jayz Stan across the world. Niggaz think every time you hear someone talk about Jayz it has to do with money. Beans never mentioned money. He said he simply wanted a conversation with the man he stood up for when that same man was at his low point, cryin like bitch on the radio, coppin pleas, makin petty excuses for gettin embarrassed lyrically. Beans saved that nigga. Yet Jay can't communicate with the nigga while he locked up? Classic example of a nigga who go to hollywood and turned his back. Even Jay family say he changed. Yet poor Jay? FOH
soul rattler;7722490 said:
Yeah that's more bullshit in this case because the people responsible for Jay-Z made him far more money than they lost him. If you are in business with someone and they make a few slips you roll with them. Business partners sometimes fuck up
And once again the nature of the music business means it's never strictly business especially within these black owned labels.
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Y'all need to realize the entertainment game is business. I do feel its fucked up when people say they are family when its not the case. When you tell someone they are family and they come from a place not having it, they will take it as if it were true. In the streets lying like that can lead a person to a situation that's not safe. That's understandable, because they were played.
You will never hear Jimmy Iovine say we're family.
People just need to state what it really is so there is no confusion.
You will never hear Jimmy Iovine say we're family.
People just need to state what it really is so there is no confusion.
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Those explosions are more played out than throw backs, roller blades, and a paying for ring tones.
Wait so niggas is REALLY blaming jay for not going broke and fucking up everything hes worked for by taking care and giving hand outs to a bunch of grown men fuck ups??? I thought y'all was just trolling but y'all serious??? If jay was still involved with all those ppl who fucked over they money, made bad investments, dudes in and outta jail, and rappers that couldn't get out they own way he'd be Irv gotti status right now if not worse then you tell me what would that so called "loyalty" have gotten him??? We'd all be calling him stupid for involving himself with ppl like that... So it's basically a lose lose with yall
Jay-z was instrumental in the success of Rocafella. Yeah Dame and Biggs did their part tremendously, yet when you think of Rocafella you think of Jay-z. If it wasn't for his talent, those niggas wouldnt have been as successful in the music industry (or better yet known) if it wasn't for Jay carrying that mantle.
Beans, Cam, Kanye came in and did their thing based on what Jay-z built with Rocafella because of his talent, work ethic, and business savvy. So what if he took the position at Def Jam and dismantled Rocafella. It was HIS choosing to do so, plus his partners got paid off their earned shared %, not his fault they fucked it off with bad business moves. Most likely if they would have achieved the same success as Jay or even more, this conversation wouldn't be going on.
Its not like they did all the work and he took all the spoils while leaving them high and dry with nothing to show for it. The history of US business is based them riding the backs of someone else work and not paying them accordingly (or matter of fact nothing at all) and going forward with little to no scrutiny. Yet its black people with this "Hook me up brother you on" mentality. Niggas should be better at distinguishing business from everything else.
Bet to believe i'll look out for family, yet when it comes to business a line must be drawn. Beans was reckless liability going in and out of jail while pissing away his money. Dame was just arrogant and burned any bridge he stepped on. Biggs just kept doing the street hustle. It was either Jay move on or become a casualty just like them.
In any business relationship to succeed its always about building mutual relationship. Dame wasn't about that, he just wanted to step on people because he can when he was on top, look where that got him. Even his own circle beef and then get back cool with him, who the fuck want to stay around that.
Beans, Cam, Kanye came in and did their thing based on what Jay-z built with Rocafella because of his talent, work ethic, and business savvy. So what if he took the position at Def Jam and dismantled Rocafella. It was HIS choosing to do so, plus his partners got paid off their earned shared %, not his fault they fucked it off with bad business moves. Most likely if they would have achieved the same success as Jay or even more, this conversation wouldn't be going on.
Its not like they did all the work and he took all the spoils while leaving them high and dry with nothing to show for it. The history of US business is based them riding the backs of someone else work and not paying them accordingly (or matter of fact nothing at all) and going forward with little to no scrutiny. Yet its black people with this "Hook me up brother you on" mentality. Niggas should be better at distinguishing business from everything else.
Bet to believe i'll look out for family, yet when it comes to business a line must be drawn. Beans was reckless liability going in and out of jail while pissing away his money. Dame was just arrogant and burned any bridge he stepped on. Biggs just kept doing the street hustle. It was either Jay move on or become a casualty just like them.
In any business relationship to succeed its always about building mutual relationship. Dame wasn't about that, he just wanted to step on people because he can when he was on top, look where that got him. Even his own circle beef and then get back cool with him, who the fuck want to stay around that.
Flex must be the original troll. Like in the mid 90's he looked in the mirror and said he was gonna be the corniest nigga to ever walk land and this is all a part of his trolling plan.
I refuse to believe he can be THIS corny. And he gets better or should I say cornier with age. Gahdamn.
I refuse to believe he can be THIS corny. And he gets better or should I say cornier with age. Gahdamn.
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Say What;7722826 said:
You bitch ass jigga warriors tell me what he can do to huckabee because this has been a 10 page circle jerk of how Jay Z is going to ruin Flex life. If Jay Z is going to go uber hard on Flex who he has claimed as a friend and supporter of career why would he "ignore" some white senator who keep backhandedly calling his wife a whore on national TV. I know you jigga warriors cant keep a bitch but just imagine if a woman wanted to be with you pencil dick geeks what would she think if she look on her phone and a big ass headline is about Huckabee calling her a whore telling people to boycott her music but you too busy beefing with corny Flex as you guys put it about some old ass petty Harlem/Dame beef from the 90s. You guys claim Jay Z is a image and brand. well niggas it makes him LOOK BAD and weak when he cant address this issue. You jigga warriors still have Jay Z frozen in time as that early 30s swaggot from RLF-BP1 era. Jay Z is not that Cool nigga no more. Let me remind you of how your camel god looks like in 2015
Jay Z wardrobe, measure of self importance, view on blacks, adoration of whites and appearance NOW mirrors
Both of these niggas would call the cops on beans, call russell on nas, call Viacom on BET, call building security on Dipset and Hospital Workers
FUCK JAY Z