Funkmaster Flex Dissing Jay-Z in new rant over Jay's Life + Times website

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Jay Z has been with his homey Ricky Gervais since day one:

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aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

 
zombie;7721864 said:
The problem with Jay is he pretends it family one minute and then when shit gets real or a better business opportunity presents itself all of a sudden it's all business.

You can't do business on some " roc la familial" shit and then just act like it's all business and shit on your people.

I agree that's why a lot of those guys were hurt because they genuinely thought them and Jay were friends. Hov made it seem that way and then he pulled the business "card" and dudes feel betrayed.

 
blackamerica;7721848 said:
texasdaking88;7721446 said:
Obviously u aint been on here long cuz niggas talk about jay none stop... Especially the Nasraelite .. Every move is scrutinized.... As far as his moves, i dont think there is anything to be talked about.., he had a relationship with niggas, and now he doesnt...happens with everyone... I dont believe u can abandon a grown ass man...especially when they say the had that much of a hand in his success...make another hov if thats the case... His other relationships seem to he in tact perfectly

This is fuck nigga shit. Beans held Jay down when tha nigga went on "vacation" during that Ether era. The whole reason Jay was able to fall back was because his soldiers fought his battle for him and basically ate his beefs. You telling me it's just business with dudes like this? The ones who held you down at your lowest point? Without Beans & State Prop there is no Roc after 2001. He owes Beans atleast a conversation

Didn't jay pay for beans lawyer, didn't beans have a clothing line, cartoon label albums. The boy fucked up and was looking for a bail out. Beans a fuck up." I'm not trying to change you just give you some game" you know the rest. Loyalty over money ? How about being loyal and not fucking up the next man's money with your dumb shit. And beans prolly could've had that convo if he didn't go public.

aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

Say that's the case how long does he owe you for that ?
 
IMO the problem seems to me that black artists need to understand this game is a fucking business. These niggas don't have this mentality with white execs, like they owe them some shit because they are black. It's business at the end of the day.

I bet you for one second the niggas don't run up on the ceo of Universal, Warner Bros,etc. Them crackers would shut their shit down in a quick second.

You think Jay-z, Puffy,etc can run up to the CEO of Sony on some "we suppose to be family". lol
 
usmarin3;7721890 said:
aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

Did I say owe forever? I said u owe me the man to man convo. Not the avoidance have security not let ne in concert / cowards way of not lookin someone in the eye cuz u know u doin/did something fucked up.
 
5th Letter;7721907 said:
zombie;7721864 said:
The problem with Jay is he pretends it family one minute and then when shit gets real or a better business opportunity presents itself all of a sudden it's all business.

You can't do business on some " roc la familial" shit and then just act like it's all business and shit on your people.

I agree that's why a lot of those guys were hurt because they genuinely thought them and Jay were friends. Hov made it seem that way and then he pulled the business "card" and dudes feel betrayed.

Exactly we are best buds when goons at ur head and u need me but oh it's just business when u turn ur nose down on me cuz u with rich folk. That's a user and a coward. Just like ti and how he did handled the alfamega situation. Just my opinion on it
 
aneed123;7721925 said:
usmarin3;7721890 said:
aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

Did I say owe forever? I said u owe me the man to man convo. Not the avoidance have security not let ne in concert / cowards way of not lookin someone in the eye cuz u know u doin/did something fucked up.

Ive already said that from what i remember reading the reason why Jay-z doesn't speak to Dehaven is he allegedly snitched and got his dude Emory 10 years. Why would he need to break words with him after that.
 
zombie;7721864 said:
The problem with Jay is he pretends it family one minute and then when shit gets real or a better business opportunity presents itself all of a sudden it's all business.

You can't do business on some " roc la familial" shit and then just act like it's all business and shit on your people.

When your dealing with millions of dollars, life changing numbers, family is business. EVERYTHING is business.

It's when niggas start compromising the money that they set themselves up to get abandoned. Jay may do some shifty things behind closed doors, but the only stories we ever hear are from jackasses citing retarded shit like capitalized text messages or wearing sandles on the beach.

Guys like Dame, Cam, Beans, Peedi, Jaz, and Flex only make themselves look foolish meanwhile Jay is the one people expect to respond to foolishness.
 
From my observation the reason why Jay has been successful is he never fell for the trappings. He wasn't a jailbird (Beans), he learned from people around him (Lyor Cohen,etc), and he stayed focus. If all them niggas had access to a dude like that and didn't observe anything, that's on them.
 
usmarin3;7721933 said:
aneed123;7721925 said:
usmarin3;7721890 said:
aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

Did I say owe forever? I said u owe me the man to man convo. Not the avoidance have security not let ne in concert / cowards way of not lookin someone in the eye cuz u know u doin/did something fucked up.

Ive already said that from what i remember reading the reason why Jay-z doesn't speak to Dehaven is he allegedly snitched and got his dude Emory 10 years. Why would he need to break words with him after that.

The Emory dude aint Jay. U love ur friends thru good and bad. So that tells u Jay wasn't his friend for real he just used him for street cred/muscle. That's cool but be up front bout it.
 
lmao...damn niggas is going back to the kid shit?

its always said that jay is unloyal but i dont see it. went the roc split jay just wanted his masters. they said no so he took what was given to him in a deal everyone signed. the artist had a choice of who to run with it. shit beans put state prop on hold not jay or dame.

deehaven a convicted felon. nigga u gotta wait. u cant just hand money over to felon.

jaz was offered a deal.

now who else was jay supposed to do for?
 
aneed123;7721963 said:
usmarin3;7721933 said:
aneed123;7721925 said:
usmarin3;7721890 said:
aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

Did I say owe forever? I said u owe me the man to man convo. Not the avoidance have security not let ne in concert / cowards way of not lookin someone in the eye cuz u know u doin/did something fucked up.

Ive already said that from what i remember reading the reason why Jay-z doesn't speak to Dehaven is he allegedly snitched and got his dude Emory 10 years. Why would he need to break words with him after that.

The Emory dude aint Jay. U love ur friends thru good and bad. So that tells u Jay wasn't his friend for real he just used him for street cred/muscle. That's cool but be up front bout it.

Wait, you love your snitch friend who got your cousin 10 years? lol
 
If it's business then fine. But don't act like you're a friend to these dudes. Talking that family shit, them dudes took it serious.
 
usmarin3;7721968 said:
aneed123;7721963 said:
usmarin3;7721933 said:
aneed123;7721925 said:
usmarin3;7721890 said:
aneed123;7721852 said:
Marine if me and u cool... I'm doin street shit on ur behalf... I show u the ropes and help give u your rap style ie dehaven and jaz .. u tellin me u would make it big and distance Urself without a phone call or man to man convo? U wouldn't call me or put nothin on my books? If not u dirty and fake.

So i'm suppose to owe you for the rest of my life. lol You really thinking a nigga like Dehaven is looking for a convo, he looking for a handout or to be a part of his team.

Jazo was offered a Rocafella contract by Jay and Dame. He turned it down because he felt he should of gotten more. From what i remember reading in the Source/XXL, Jay gave Jazo his New Jersey condo and Jazo ended up giving it away to some church/cult he belonged to. lol

Did I say owe forever? I said u owe me the man to man convo. Not the avoidance have security not let ne in concert / cowards way of not lookin someone in the eye cuz u know u doin/did something fucked up.

Ive already said that from what i remember reading the reason why Jay-z doesn't speak to Dehaven is he allegedly snitched and got his dude Emory 10 years. Why would he need to break words with him after that.

The Emory dude aint Jay. U love ur friends thru good and bad. So that tells u Jay wasn't his friend for real he just used him for street cred/muscle. That's cool but be up front bout it.

Wait, you love your snitch friend who got your cousin 10 years? lol

Didn't know they were cousin. Point taken
 
A lot of these relationships are strictly business though and everybody you come up with not going to stay with you til the end. I'm not defending Jay but People drift apart. That's just life.

On end you got people saying Jay is a snake on the other end he's a real nigga. So which one is it?

Dame, Biggs and Jay parted on mutual business terms by selling their share in Rocafella Records. Technically they don't owe each other shit when the agreement is up. They came in on business and left as such.

Jay gets the blame because he's the figurehead. At the same time we don't know how those niggas roll either.

Moral of the story you can't please everybody.
 
If Jay wasn't as successful as he is after the ROC breakup, would niggas come after him for abandoning them? I swear success can be a muthafucker!
 

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