Former BART officer convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

[DarcSkies777]

WOw...I'm actually shocked.

Well they've avoided a mini-riot. People still gonna be pissed when they give this cracker like 10 years probation.

 

[shootemwon]

SMH....involuntary manslaughter.

 

[dholt23]

4 years max for killing somebody in that case is a loss for sure

 

[mowgli the elite]

Disgusting. Funny listenined to all the house n1ggas on the news tellin n1ggas to behave. Funny hearing the white news reporter talkin to the black cops in code like *yall arent gonna let these n1ggas tear up OUR sh1t are you* Unbelievable.

 

[dholt23]

hell have his day when god decides to open them gates up or not, like all of us

 

[janklow]

i just started a forum on the verdict over in >The R & R< forum, thinking it wasn't to be posted here in SL...we can bring racial ordeals here now?

well, perhaps the correct answer is...

Janlklow will either merge or delete this one.

I dont see how this is wholly a race issue. It only becomes a race issue because whites like when cops murder blacks.

 

[fdouglass]

It was a accident he thought it was a taser!

 

[DarcSkies777]

*bitches about the SL again*

THere was a time when threads like these went deep into the 250 post range....

Oh how the mighty hath fallen...

 

[florida321]

I just hope if they do riot they only target cops. Tearing up somebody's business ain't got a damn thing to do with crooked cops.

 

[loch121]

This should be the biggest post.Fuck Lebron

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I don't see why people are surprised. I called this the day after it all happened. We all know it wasn't an accident, but legally, there is no way to prove it. You know his cop buddies stuck up for him and here was too much room for reasonable doubt. There was no way he was going to get hit with murder.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

It was a accident he thought it was a taser!

Get The Fuck Out Of Here

 

[northside7]

I don't see why people are surprised. I called this the day after it all happened. We all know it wasn't an accident, but legally, there is no way to prove it. You know his cop buddies stuck up for him and here was too much room for reasonable doubt. There was no way he was going to get hit with murder.

I hear that but its really some BS, an all white jury? Damn, Oscar Grant had no chance at justice.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Should of have been a murder conviction but I know the Law aint gonna do that.

Don't take this the wrong way when I ask this because by just reading this alone you can't hear inflection and tonality, but know what the legal definition of a murder is? A murder is a specific crime that has to meet a specific criteria. According the California Penal code 187 this is a murder:

187. (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.

and this is the definition of involuntary manslaughter:

192. Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without

malice. It is of three kinds:

(a) Voluntary--upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.

(b) Involuntary--in the commission of an unlawful act, not

amounting to felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might

produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and

circumspection. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199

You're saying that cop HAD INTENTIONALLY want to kill dude. That he got to the BART station and made up in his mind that he was going to pop nigga. I underlined the portion that is pertinent to the conversation and what says that the officer actually did. I seriously doubt the officer's intention was to kill Oscar Grant. Rex, so you believe that punk ass cop's story about him going for his taser? It's improbable, but not impossible. However, do believe that the cop didn't formulate in his mind before hand to kill somebody. Also what you're saying to that D.A. should of overcharged the officer. What would've happened was the jury would've came back with an acquittal.

I'm all for sending the police to jail when they fuck up. To tell the truth, I believe that former cops should have to do their time in population with everybody else and make it the best way they can. I don't believe in people having to do time for shit they didn't do and I don't think that cop's intention was to murder Oscar Grant.

 

[djparamnesia]

can some one sum up the story for me, what happened from point A to B, what was he doing to make the cop even think of doing something? i dont live in america so its not on the news and i cba with the political news bullshit that they put into articles, what actually happened?

 

[northside7]

Don't take this the wrong way when I ask this because by just reading this alone you can't hear inflection and tonality, but know what the legal definition of a murder is? A murder is a specific crime that has to meet a specific criteria. According the California Penal code 187 this is a murder:

187. (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.

and this is the definition of involuntary manslaughter:

192. Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without
malice. It is of three kinds:

(a) Voluntary--upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.

(b) Involuntary--in the commission of an unlawful act, not
amounting to felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might
produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and
circumspection. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199

You're saying that cop HAD INTENTIONALLY want to kill dude. That he got to the BART station and made up in his mind that he was going to pop nigga. I underlined the portion that is pertinent to the conversation and what says that the officer actually did. I seriously doubt the officer's intention was to kill Oscar Grant. Rex, so you believe that punk ass cop's story about him going for his taser? It's improbable, but not impossible. However, do believe that the cop didn't formulate in his mind before hand to kill somebody. Also what you're saying to that D.A. should of overcharged the officer. What would've happened was the jury would've came back with an acquittal.

I'm all for sending the police to jail when they fuck up. To tell the truth, I believe that former cops should have to do their time in population with everybody else and make it the best way they can. I don't believe in people having to do time for shit they didn't do and I don't think that cop's intention was to murder Oscar Grant.

So what would be the definition of first degree & second degree murder in California? Who knows what his intent was at that moment, he could of been thinking "I'll kill this guy if he doesn't cooperate" no way to read his thoughts. I'm not saying it was his intent when he went into the station to kill Oscar Grant but it could of have been at the time when the officers were trying to arrest him.

 

[musicology1985]

I hear that but its really some BS, an all white jury? Damn, Oscar Grant had no chance at justice.

cosign. the system is rigged from top to bottom against black people. cops are the biggest gang in the USA and we need to start recognizing that and deal with them as the occupying force that they are, regardless of complexion, because once they put that uniform on they all the same. u never see black cops fighting against this crap in mass.

 

[anthony7q]

can some one sum up the story for me, what happened from point A to B, what was he doing to make the cop even think of doing something? i dont live in america so its not on the news and i cba with the political news bullshit that they put into articles, what actually happened?

They had him on his stomach handcuffed and shot him point blank in the head. All of the cops on the scene showed no emothion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rich-silverstein/bart-shooting----peeling_b_641304.html

 

[janklow]

well, perhaps it should be...delete which ever was started last, right? ...or...whichever was started in the non-Race Forum, right?

well, no thread was deleted. but maybe it's "close the thread that has no other posts in it"

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

They had him on his stomach handcuffed and shot him point blank in the head. All of the cops on the scene showed no emothion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rich-silverstein/bart-shooting----peeling_b_641304.html

After seeing that video it is deplorable how a jury could possibly think that was involuntary manslaughter.