Female punches,spits n damages her grandpa(?) car #hoh

[Westie]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

School hazing going unreported unless there is physiological trauma(their asshole falling out), why? Cuz people aren't readily sharing how they were violated. Just like millions don't tell people how they were molested, cuz of the shame.

 

[bununs alias]

so as i understand this thread, if your 6 year old daughter said uncle ray ray been touching her, you all gonna sit down as a family and talk things out ?

 

[D. Morgan]

so as i understand this thread, if your 6 year old daughter said uncle ray ray been touching her, you all gonna sit down as a family and talk things out ?

I would believe my daughter but if growing up I never got that vibe or seen some shady shit from uncle ray no I'm not going to just go knock his head off. A complete stranger hell yes ASAP.

Something is going to happen just don't know what exactly.

 

[Scroter]

hit that bitch in the head with a bumper jack

 

[xxCivicxx]

@konceptjones don't waste your energy

 

[Westie]

@xxCivicxx mind your business

 

[NCswag]

Old boy looks like his hand is used to being on that ass cheek too much.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

 

[Westie]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

Ok, find those stats and give me the actual ones since the FBI and DOJ references aren't good enough.

It's not good enough to you that 68% of rapes are not even reported, it's not good enough to you that only 2% of rapes that occur are actually convicted. I would figure since so many people want physical proof and the victim's word doesn't mean anything, that this is a good stat to you. It goes to show you that rapists walk free every day because there isn't enough proof. I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

Now the problem is, the ones that do report it don't follow up. So that's that 30% that's not convicted? The victims fault then right?

So since most of the victims in your opinion chose not to pursue things, where is that number that you know? It already accounts for the 68% that don't even report them.

 

[Westie]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

I do not understand your point of view. I really want to. I understand when someone's reputation and life is on the line you may want to look at things objectively and give the alleged rapist the benefit of the doubt because there's a possibility that the woman could be lying.

But when it comes to sheer numbers, there's no face to these numbers that you're looking at. But yet and still you still feel the need to say that most of those women could be lying or they could be at fault somehow for the rapist walking free.

68% of those women actually said I have been raped but I never reported it. What's the point of lying about that? Like when you're faced with a number what is the need to protect the alleged rapist, why is it so strong?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

Ok, find those stats and give me the actual ones since the FBI and DOJ references aren't good enough.

It's not good enough to you that 68% of rapes are not even reported, it's not good enough to you that only 2% of rapes that occur are actually convicted. I would figure since so many people want physical proof and the victim's word doesn't mean anything, that this is a good stat to you. It goes to show you that rapists walk free every day because there isn't enough proof. I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

Now the problem is, the ones that do report it don't follow up. So that's that 30% that's not convicted? The victims fault then right?

So since most of the victims in your opinion chose not to pursue things, where is that number that you know? It already accounts for the 68% that don't even report them.

Ok, let's just ignore the obvious problems with those numbers like the implication that every person that claims to have been raped was actually raped. Let's say that's true. Every person that claims it, had it happen.

Ok 68%, of the victims don't even report it. So what are the prosecutors supposed to do? How can they prosecute crimes that victims don't even report? If the victims don't report those crimes to have them prosecuted, who is to blame for that? As for the other 32%, it usually comes down to he said/she said. Again, what would you like the prosecutors to do? Should they just throw every person accused of rape in jail even if there is nothing other than the accusation?

My point is that people need to stop throwing that picture around because its stupid and meaningless. It's meant to reinforce this idea that America has a rape culture that doesn't care about rape or its victims, and that's simply not true.

Frankly, most of the number feminists use are bullshit, and that's not me or a bunch of woman haters saying that. Other feminists are speaking out against it.

 

[Westie]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

Ok, find those stats and give me the actual ones since the FBI and DOJ references aren't good enough.

It's not good enough to you that 68% of rapes are not even reported, it's not good enough to you that only 2% of rapes that occur are actually convicted. I would figure since so many people want physical proof and the victim's word doesn't mean anything, that this is a good stat to you. It goes to show you that rapists walk free every day because there isn't enough proof. I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

Now the problem is, the ones that do report it don't follow up. So that's that 30% that's not convicted? The victims fault then right?

So since most of the victims in your opinion chose not to pursue things, where is that number that you know? It already accounts for the 68% that don't even report them.

Ok, let's just ignore the obvious problems with those numbers like the implication that every person that claims to have been raped was actually raped. Let's say that's true. Every person that claims it, had it happen.

Ok 68%, of the victims don't even report it. So what are the prosecutors supposed to do? How can they prosecute crimes that victims don't even report? If the victims don't report those crimes to have them prosecuted, who is to blame for that? As for the other 32%, it usually comes down to he said/she said. Again, what would you like the prosecutors to do? Should they just throw every person accused of rape in jail even if there is nothing other than the accusation?

My point is that people need to stop throwing that picture around because its stupid and meaningless. It's meant to reinforce this idea that America has a rape culture that doesn't care about rape or its victims, and that's simply not true.

I'm not blaming prosecutors or America for women not reporting rape. Rape is a very awful, personal, humiliating experience. At the same time, there is definitely shame associated with this crime, toward the victim. There are many many reasons women do not report rape. But let's not even talk about that 68% because as you said that's no one's fault.

But let's talk about the 32%. So out of the 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred and are reported, only 7% of those are even referred to a prosecutor. Is it your opinion that the rapes that do not get referred to the prosecutor are false claims?

 

[Westie]

@konceptjones

So 2 out of 32 reported rapes actually end in a conviction. Are all 30 of those other women lying? Justice gets served tho?
https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Those are bad stats. First, the graphic itself assumes that all alleged rapes are actual rapes. It also mulls over the fact that most of those supposed rapists walk away because the people that were raped choose not to push things. So you can't exactly complain about not getting justice when the victims are the ones that choose not to pursue it.

Ok, find those stats and give me the actual ones since the FBI and DOJ references aren't good enough.

It's not good enough to you that 68% of rapes are not even reported, it's not good enough to you that only 2% of rapes that occur are actually convicted. I would figure since so many people want physical proof and the victim's word doesn't mean anything, that this is a good stat to you. It goes to show you that rapists walk free every day because there isn't enough proof. I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

Now the problem is, the ones that do report it don't follow up. So that's that 30% that's not convicted? The victims fault then right?

So since most of the victims in your opinion chose not to pursue things, where is that number that you know? It already accounts for the 68% that don't even report them.

Frankly, most of the number feminists use are bullshit, and that's not me or a bunch of woman haters saying that. Other feminists are speaking out against it.

Why did this turn into satistics from feminists about rape? So the statistic that out of 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred, only 2% of those rapes end in a conviction, is that a false statistic?

What is it about rape that makes some people so nitpicky and wanting to shit on the victims? I don't get it at all. I didn't say anything about rape culture. I believe that insensitivity towards this subject is definitely wide spread on this site. That is one thing I will definitely say. It's a little bit ironic that you say it's just not true that people don't care about the victims of rape when it seems that at every turn, someone is telling me how women are lying about rape and it's their fault that rapists aren't brought to Justice.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm not blaming prosecutors or America for women not reporting rape. Rape is a very awful, personal, humiliating experience. At the same time, there is definitely shame associated with this crime, toward the victim. There are many many reasons women do not report rape. But let's not even talk about that 68% because as you said that's no one's fault.

But let's talk about the 32%. So out of the 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred and are reported, only 7% of those are even referred to a prosecutor. Is it your opinion that the rapes that do not get referred to the prosecutor are false claims?

Some of them are false claims. Some of them are simply not legitimate cases of rape (i.e. a girl gets drunk, has consensual sex, and then says she was raped because she can't remember consenting). Some of those claims are simply unverifiable (i.e. the girl says one thing, the guy says another, there is nothing to distinguish who is telling the truth). The fact is no one knows how many of those claims are actual rapes, and that's why that graphic is disingenuous.

Why did this turn into satistics from feminists about rape? So the statistic that out of 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred, only 2% of those rapes end in a conviction, is that a false statistic?

What is it about rape that makes some people so nitpicky and wanting to shit on the victims? I don't get it at all. I didn't say anything about rape culture. I believe that insensitivity towards this subject is definitely wide spread on this site. That is one thing I will definitely say. It's a little bit ironic that you say it's just not true that people don't care about the victims of rape when it seems that at every turn, someone is telling me how women are lying about rape and it's their fault that rapists aren't brought to Justice.

I just hate that graphic because it's obvious bullshit. If you were trying to make a point that I missed in my need to refute the graphic, I apologize. However, the fact that you think what I was saying was nitpicky is telling. The problem with you rape crusaders is that in standing up for victims, who do deserve your support, you're willing to bowl over due process and common sense in turn creating other victims. People who get falsely or inaccurately accused of rape have their lives ruined, but you guys seem to think that's ok as long as rape gets "taken seriously." The problem is that it was never really the case that rape wasn't taken seriously. Rape is just a hard crime to prosecute. You can't fix that problem treating every person that is accused of rape as someone who has already been convicted of rape.

I also think you misunderstand the other side's point. It's not that I or anyone else is telling you that every woman who says she was raped is lying. We just point out that there are women who do lie about it, and since those women exist, you can't just take for granted that everyone who says they were raped were in fact raped.

 

[Westie]

I'm not blaming prosecutors or America for women not reporting rape. Rape is a very awful, personal, humiliating experience. At the same time, there is definitely shame associated with this crime, toward the victim. There are many many reasons women do not report rape. But let's not even talk about that 68% because as you said that's no one's fault.

But let's talk about the 32%. So out of the 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred and are reported, only 7% of those are even referred to a prosecutor. Is it your opinion that the rapes that do not get referred to the prosecutor are false claims?

Some of them are false claims. Some of them are simply not legitimate cases of rape (i.e. a girl gets drunk, has consensual sex, and then says she was raped because she can't remember consenting). Some of those claims are simply unverifiable (i.e. the girl says one thing, the guy says another, there is nothing to distinguish who is telling the truth). The fact is no one knows how many of those claims are actual rapes, and that's why that graphic is disingenuous.

Why did this turn into satistics from feminists about rape? So the statistic that out of 32% of rapes that allegedly occurred, only 2% of those rapes end in a conviction, is that a false statistic?

What is it about rape that makes some people so nitpicky and wanting to shit on the victims? I don't get it at all. I didn't say anything about rape culture. I believe that insensitivity towards this subject is definitely wide spread on this site. That is one thing I will definitely say. It's a little bit ironic that you say it's just not true that people don't care about the victims of rape when it seems that at every turn, someone is telling me how women are lying about rape and it's their fault that rapists aren't brought to Justice.

I just hate that graphic because it's obvious bullshit. If you were trying to make a point that I missed in my need to refute the graphic, I apologize. However, the fact that you think what I was saying was nitpicky is telling. The problem with you rape crusaders is that in standing up for victims, who do deserve your support, you're willing to bowl over due process and common sense in turn creating other victims. People who get falsely or inaccurately accused of rape have their lives ruined, but you guys seem to think that's ok as long as rape gets "taken seriously." The problem is that it was never really the case that rape wasn't taken seriously. Rape is just a hard crime to prosecute. You can't fix that problem treating every person that is accused of rape as someone who has already been convicted of rape.

I also think you misunderstand the other side's point. It's not that I or anyone else is telling you that every woman who says she was raped is lying. We just point out that there are women who do lie about it, and since those women exist, you can't just take for granted that everyone who says they were raped were in fact raped.

I have already stated multiple times that rape is a hard crime to prosecute. I've been told that rape is cut and dry. I'm also not a rape Crusader I don't even know what that means. I'm not an activist, I don't go around looking for men to convict. I'm 100% aware that women lie about getting raped. I happen to believe it's on a much smaller scale than a lot of others have stated. I said about 8%, but the truth is that you nor I will ever know how many people lied about getting raped. In my personal experience in life, just about every woman that I've ever had a close friendship to or am related to has either been raped or molested. So I tend to believe that it does happen to a lot of women. I do know what it looks like to tell the truth about getting raped.

I also do not pretend to be a prosecutor, so I'm not saying what they need to do in order to convict a rapist. I do not think that the legal system should only take woman's word for it. The only thing I have ever stated on this web site is that for me personally, I take the victims word. That is simply because rape is a disgusting crime, and I'd rather not be the person on the end of the spectrum making a true victim feel worthless and alone, on top of already have been raped. To have someone violate your body at the most personal level and then to be treated like you're a liar or it's your fault on top of it. I don't do that and I will never do that. Why should I? If you need more evidence for your opinion that is perfectly fine. I have never ever said that someone should get locked up based on someone's word alone. I don't believe that.

If someone tells me they were raped, I'm not going to say "where is your evidence". If that's what you would say that's your business and I would feel sorry for whatever victim you are talking to. I'm not calling for a major overhaul of the Department of Justice and calling for every single man who's ever been accused of rape to go to jail because somebody said it. All I am saying is that if a woman says to me she was violated I'm going to believe what she says until I have a reason not to. But that is for my opinion strictly.

That doesn't mean I think the alleged perpetrators should go to jail without evidence. I'm not Prosecuting anyone and I don't know why anyone has a problem with that.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

http://www.brothersonsports.com/a-c...y-accused-of-rape-are-accused-by-white-women/
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/01...ully-accusing-black-people-committing-crimes/
http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/page/302

 

[Westie]

http://www.brothersonsports.com/a-criminologist-explains-90-of-black-men-falsely-accused-of-rape-are-accused-by-white-women/
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/01...ully-accusing-black-people-committing-crimes/
http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/page/302

Is this in response to my post? I have already said more than once there are women who lie about rape. I've explained why I take the victims word for it. So what are you trying to express here?

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

I thought shorty was dead wrong but yall saying yall caught her calling him a molester on the tape? And yall still defending him it explains the 25 unanswered hit him trying to stop her from going anywhere tho love bear hug and he's white that's them niggas m.o as been said b4 some of you niggas hate women sooooo bad

 

[Westie]

I thought shorty was dead wrong but yall saying yall caught her calling him a molester on the tape? And yall still defending him it explains the 25 unanswered hit him trying to stop her from going anywhere tho love bear hug and he's white that's them niggas m.o as been said b4 some of you niggas hate women sooooo bad

That's a different video hun.