Fat people who complain about being Fat Unappreciation thread

[Huruma]

That still boils down to "will power", unless something is severely wrong with them.

The will power to eat less fatty foods and to burn the same mount of calories (or more calories) than one consumes.

No one has any self-controlled 'will power'. The ambition and determination that someone feels to lose weight isn't self-determined, it's a result of genetic/environmental circumstances, when those circumstances change so will their 'will power'.

Some overweight people would have to work twice, thrice etc. times harder than most people would to maintain a healthy weight and many thin people (the same ones who criticize overweight people for lacking will power) who assume that overweight people would only have to exert the same effort that they would to lose weight don't have the will power it would actually take to lose weight if they had the same medical or genetic disposition to being as overweight.

 

[fiat_money]

No one has any self-controlled 'will power'. The ambition and determination that someone feels to lose weight isn't self-determined, it's a result of genetic/environmental circumstances, when those circumstances change so will their 'will power'...

As long as one is able to understand the concept that calories consumed relates to weight gain, and able to make decisions; then one should be able to decide to "eat less fatty foods and to burn the same mount of calories (or more calories) than one consumes".

Inability to make/execute such decisions shows a lack of willpower or a lack of desire to do so.

will power
 
noun
control of one's impulses and actions; self-control.

Definition of WILLPOWER
: energetic determination

willpower (ˈwɪlˌpaʊə)

— n
1. the ability to control oneself and determine one's actions
2. firmness of will

 

[StillFaggyAF]

No one has any self-controlled 'will power'. The ambition and determination that someone feels to lose weight isn't self-determined, it's a result of genetic/environmental circumstances, when those circumstances change so will their 'will power'.

Some overweight people would have to work twice, thrice etc. times harder than most people would to maintain a healthy weight and many thin people (the same ones who criticize overweight people for lacking will power) who assume that overweight people would only have to exert the same effort that they would to lose weight don't have the will power it would actually take to lose weight if they had the same medical or genetic disposition to being as overweight.

^^^^^^momma and sister is fat post

 

[twentyfivelighters]

I just became bolemic *shrugs*

Lmao. Do you mean Bulimic? If so, enjoy the swelling of your parotid glands and decaying tooth enamel, making you look like a chipmunk in the process.

 

[Huruma]

As long as one is able to understand the concept that calories consumed relates to weight gain, and able to make decisions; then one should be able to decide to "eat less fatty foods and to burn the same mount of calories (or more calories) than one consumes".

Inability to make/execute such decisions shows a lack of willpower or a lack of desire to do so.

I never said that will power doesn't exist, I said that it isn't self-determined and there's a practical limit to how much temptation someone can overcome. People have conflicting desires, on one hand, a desire to lose weight and be healthy but another desire for immediate gratification, neither desire is self-willed and human behavior is a reaction to stimuli, there's no 'choice' involved. Food is a source of consolation for some people and a low-calorie, healthy diet isn't necessarily the only thing required to lose weight. Exercising regularly, getting enough sleep, even eating healthy etc. can be difficult for people who have busy lives, are struggling financially etc.

 

[Will Munny]

This all fits in perfectly with Huruma's justifications of pedophilia.

 

[fiat_money]

I never said that will power doesn't exist, I said that it isn't self-determined and there's a practical limit to how much temptation someone can overcome. People have conflicting desires, on one hand, a desire to lose weight and be healthy but another desire for immediate gratification, neither desire is self-willed and human behavior is a reaction to stimuli, there's no 'choice' involved. Food is a source of consolation for some people and a low-calorie, healthy diet isn't necessarily the only thing required to lose weight. Exercising regularly, getting enough sleep, even eating healthy etc. can be difficult for people who have busy lives, are struggling financially etc.

I never said that you said that willpower doesn't exist either. Those definitions were merely to show that by definition, "willpower" is "self-control".

And whether willpower is self-determined or not, the "inability to make/execute such decisions shows" still shows "a lack of willpower or a lack of desire to do so".

Therefore, "that still boils down to 'willpower', unless something is severely wrong with them".

 

[Huruma]

I never said that you said that willpower doesn't exist either. Those definitions were merely to show that by definition, "willpower" is "self-control".

And whether willpower is self-determined or not, the "inability to make/execute such decisions shows" still shows "a lack of willpower or a lack of desire to do so".

Therefore, "that still boils down to 'willpower', unless something is severely wrong with them".

When lack of will power is the issue, and it isn't always, nobody can be blamed for it.

 

[fiat_money]

When lack of will power is the issue, and it isn't always, nobody can be blamed for it.

Sure they can; they person who lacks the willpower can be blamed with ease.

They can be blamed simply for not making/enforcing decisions that they should be capable of.

Such as: "I blame your fatness on you because you lack the ability to control yourself and to determine your actions in regards to your eating/exercise."

It's just like how a rapist can be blamed for lacking the ability to control theirself and to determine their actions in regards to raping bitches.

 

[Huruma]

Sure they can; they person who lacks the willpower can be blamed with ease.

They can be blamed simply for not making/enforcing decisions that they should be capable of.

Such as: "I blame your fatness on you because you lack the ability to control yourself and to determine your actions in regards to your eating/exercise."

It's just like how a rapist can be blamed for lacking the ability to control theirself and to determine their actions in regards to raping bitches.

We're still fucking with metaphysical naturalism out here, right? There's no 'decision making' center of the brain, neurons simply respond to internal and external stimuli. Nobody can be blamed for anything since nobody chooses to behave the way that they do.

 

[fiat_money]

We're still fucking with metaphysical naturalism out here, right? There's no 'decision making' center of the brain, neurons simply respond to internal and external stimuli. Nobody can be blamed for anything since nobody chooses to behave the way that they do.

Simply because their decision is a product of inherent/environmental factors doesn't mean a decision is not made. And once a decision is made, others can decide to critique the decision which was made. If the decision made is critiqued as a "poor decision", then the thing/person making the decision is at fault; and therefore, worthy of blame.

 

[Huruma]

Simply because their decision is a product of inherent/environmental factors doesn't mean a decision is not made. And once a decision is made, others can decide to critique the decision which was made. If the decision made is critiqued as a "poor decision", then the thing/person making the decision is at fault; and therefore, worthy of blame.

Brains don't make 'decisions' anymore than laptops do. 'Decision' implies that conscious rationalization lead to the preference of one alternative over another. Neuroscience has shown for decades that brains make 'decisions' seconds before they become consciously aware of them and at any given moment, any physical entity is only capable of whatever behavior environmental stimuli necessitates. A rock thrown from a window doesn't choose to fall anymore than brains choose to think, the only difference between the two is that brains are capable of conscious experience but conscious experience itself is caused by unconscious activity, consciousness is something brains do, not an innate property they have.

You can critique decisions to discourage people from making those decisions, you cannot blame people for making the decisions they make anymore than you can blame a car for breaking down.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Brains don't make 'decisions' anymore than laptops do. 'Decision' implies that conscious rationalization lead to the preference of one alternative over another. Neuroscience has shown for decades that brains make 'decisions' seconds before they become consciously aware of them and at any given moment, any physical entity is only capable of whatever behavior environmental stimuli necessitates. A rock thrown from a window doesn't choose to fall anymore than brains choose to think, the only difference between the two is that brains are capable of conscious experience but conscious experience itself is caused by unconscious activity, consciousness is something brains do, not an innate property they have.

You can critique decisions to discourage people from making those decisions, you cannot blame people for making the decisions they make anymore than you can blame a car for breaking down.

bullshit......

 

[StillFaggyAF]

free will doesn't exist

Right now i'm decided to call you a "faggot". But I didn't choose to say that right?

 

[fiat_money]

Brains don't make 'decisions' anymore than laptops do...

Sure laptops can make decisions.

If I design a circuit on the laptop's motherboard to shut off the laptop when one of the measured components reaches a temperature above 105°C; based on those inherent/environmental factors, the laptop will decide to shut down if one of its components' temperatures is greater than 105°C.

When I use the word "decide", I'm referring to this:

b : to select as a course of action —used with an infinitive

Whether it's known as "automated decision making", "multi-way selection", or simply "human choice"; they still a form of decision making.

 

[j.dini]

fat people da woat

 

[StillFaggyAF]

what are you though?
you are a mix of your experience, genetics, state of mind.
each is programmed to do certain things in certain environments, just as a ball of a certain weight, shape, size, and density thrown at a particular wall that is a certain weight, shape, size and density will bounce accordingly, you react as you're programmed to in the various situations you go through in life.

Everything is a mechanism. Why do people think humans are exempt from the laws of the universe?

So the "universe" made me type this?

 

[stupot0607]

Fat people just need DISCIPLINE

i dont believe this whole "ohhh i cant help eating burgers for breakfast" bullshit

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

This fat problem is only going to get worse. We complain about fat people, but tolerate fat lifestyles and habits.

Like all these women running around not cooking...dudes just up and accept that shit without question. Eating bullshit all day, just up and accept it

We equate physical beauty with health...even if ur girl, or potential girl, looks good or is in shape she shouldnt be eating bullshit. We wait till it becomes an eyesore for it to become an issue

Regardless of if ya broad is 500 pounds or 110, her ass needs to put the fast food down. Whether 500 or 110, her ass needs to be working out. EVERYONE DOES

Women need to get on their dudes too....all the above applied there too

we allowed this to get out of hand by way of our lack of standards...

If mofos are serious, get ur broads back in the kitchen, and call out bullshit. Im 24...at this age, it seems like everyone has children...if a broad has kids but she eats nothing but fast food, call that shit out. She should have home cooked food on G.P....now her kids are gonna be fat too, and ur ass laying up w/ her tolerating that shit

its a cycle

 

[longmeat]

Your personality dictated so.
Your personality controls you, you do not control it.

get off the pipe breh