Fans of older Ye over new.. Hate growth in an artist or have a legit argument?

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straightupsho;3801263 said:
I really honestly can't see where you're coming from

In the days where people are calling the Carter 3 a classic and niggas in the hood bumping How to Love calling Kanye a genius with the average stuff he's putting out now is blasphemous to the 03-05 Kanye
 
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ocelot;3801545 said:
In the days where people are calling the Carter 3 a classic and niggas in the hood bumping How to Love calling Kanye a genius with the average stuff he's putting out now is blasphemous to the 03-05 Kanye

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lol at blasphemous... you guys are in the minority
a lot of people still think ye's new albums are great
 
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KingdomKame;3801628 said:
lol at blasphemous... you guys are in the minority

a lot of people still think ye's new albums are great

i really don't care what rolling stone or spin thinks, they said the carter 3 was a classic so .... lol

but yea outside the net i have only run into maybe 2 or 3 people who thought MBDTF was great or a classic .... honestly

most mofos i've talked to consider it to be one of his worst
 
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desertrain10;3801672 said:
i really don't care what rolling stone or spin thinks, they said the carter 3 was a classic so .... lol

but yea outside the net i have only run into maybe 2 or 3 people who thought MBDTF was great or a classic .... honestly
most mofos i've talked to consider it to be one of his worst

xxl and the source too.......
every mag alive really

and thats the icing on the cake.. I knew it was a good album on first listen before all the critics
 
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straightupsho;3801589 said:
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I said the same thing...lol
I couldn't believe it till I heard niggas talking about " you ain't a real man if you can't understand how to love"
Niggas I grew up with...smh... I

KingdomKame;3801628 said:
lol at blasphemous... you guys are in the minority
a lot of people still think ye's new albums are great
JayZ Kingdom Come and BP3 are good ablums that was outside the Jay Z norm... Are those albums better than
RD...BP... TBA?... Hell vol.1 is better than those albums... Doesn't change the fact that Kingdom Come or BP3 were great albums
Kanye will always make great music
 
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yeah but in that case there are going to be people who think mbdtf is better than cd
and you can't change their minds
 
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ocelot;3801677 said:
I said the same thing...lol
I couldn't believe it till I heard niggas talking about " you ain't a real man if you can't understand how to love"
Niggas I grew up with...smh... I

i'm part of this young generation and i smack this shit outta someone saying lil wayne has ANY classic material
 
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KingdomKame;3801676 said:
xxl and the source too.......
every mag alive really

and thats the icing on the cake.. I knew it was a good album on first listen before all the critics

icing on the cake??? oooookkkkk

at the end of the day, i could care less if i am in the minority... mc hammer was one of the most successful rappers of all time? does that mean he was the best ever???? no....and millions of people purchased the critically acclaimed the carter 3, does that make it a classic????? no . sales or ploys to sell more magazines doesn't make an album great

some of the best albums are largely unrecognized .... and vice versa

some people think its a ok album while some think its classic ... i guess we gotta agree to disagree
 
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man kanye has never lyrically been rappin like he is now mbdtf is in his top 2 albums musically the man a fuckin genius no rapper push the boundaries like dude what else is it to say
 
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straightupsho;3801743 said:
i'm part of this young generation and i smack this shit outta someone saying lil wayne has ANY classic material

nigga carter 1 was most deff a classic.... Wayne from 03 to bout 06 was the best Wayne...
 
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Disciplined InSight;3802047 said:
Stop being "eccentric" i.e. a diva...

This is what confuses me ... When was be not eccentric ie a diva?? What incarnation of kanye are people referring to when he was not these things?
 
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straightupsho;3802213 said:
so does working with trip hop artists and sampling house music count as avant garde?

no, not necessarily.... but it depends on whether the music sounds forced or overproduced

like with MBDTF ye worked so hard to make tracks like runaway ( which took 6 PEOPLE to write. lol) and the blame game sound effortless and heartfelt but runaway sounded contrived and was poorly written ... blame game was too emo for me nothing great about it

all the lights and monster was overproduced, too feature heavy, while ye's verses were meh,.....

devil in a new dress was produced by b!nk and i enjoyed rick ross's verse better than ye's,.....

only thing great about dark fantasy was the production and rza produced that....

the voice effects on lost in this world was overbearing and annoying as hell....

gorgeous was cool, but again with the voice effects was a distraction...hell of a life was meh...

who will survive in america, so apalled and power were ok ...

and there were really no quotable verses to speak of...really no memorable hooks...

still a good effort but def not a great or classic outing from ye
 
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