*f-cking dead* Amber Rose Organizing "Slut Walk" Protest To Combat Slut-Shaming

[Knives Amilli]

LOL FOH man.

This is complete bullshit.

IN all phases of life every guy I know that has slept with a lotta women is a fucking hero. An idol even.

Even on this very website.... Go to any thread about Trey Songz or Drake even and I bet you there's a great deal of pontificating an bigging up done over how many women they've potentially slept with and how *easy* it is for them to bed women.

And in those same threads I bet not one fucking person brings up how unsafe multiple sexual partners are or how "immoral" it is.

But when women are publicly displaying the same flippancy about sex, its now immoral and dangerous.

Ok. Makes sense.

I don't know what kind of lames you hang with, but I've never been anywhere where simply fucking a lot of chicks makes you a hero. lol It sounds stupid to even say that shit. You of you niggas man. lol The only niggas that put that much praise into fucking a lot of women are the ones that don't get any at all.

And yeah, I'm sure there are threads where people comment on how many women Trey or Drake have, but nobody puts them on a pedestal for that. They are celebrities for goodness sake. Getting women is part of the process in that lifestyle, so it doesn't even make sense to be impressed by that.

And I'm pretty sure I've said in every post that the lack of morality and the dangers present in gross sexual promiscuity are present for both men and women, but I understand you had to ignore that to make your point whatever the hell that actually is. I can't really even tell at this point.

And I say to that: if you're gonna act willfully ignorant to the praise, admiration, envy that our society gives to men who bed a lot of women, then we're just have to agree to disagree.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

lol Let me ask ya'll a couple questions about this so-called double standard. Women who sleep around get called sluts. Men who sleep around don't. That's about the gist of it right.

What gender do you think does the most slut shaming?

What gender chooses not to criticize men for the same poor behavior?

My personal opinion is that the answer to the first question is women. That's supported by the fact that this topic exists because a group of women were supposedly slut shaming Amber Rose.

The answer to the second question is definitely women.

So if women are the ones bashing women who adhere to low standards and aren't holding men to higher standards. Isn't this an internal female problem? And isn't this so-called double standard against women being largely perpetuated by the actions of women?

 

[Batman.]

I don't like Amber one bit, but I like what she's doing here.

 

[desertrain10]

1. A woman sleeping with whomever she's pleases even if that means sleeping with every suiter is her being proactive, practicing her free will

So how is that if women were to be appear to be more "selective" the solution, if I believe the problem with the double standard is that women are discouraged from exploring their sexuality any way they see fit? lol

Ur suggestion would be just another stipulation used to constrain women from enacting their sexual agency/practing their own free will lol

2. Obviously a woman has the choice to sleep with whomever she pleases

What I mean is that we live in a patriarchy. And the men with the influence to shape public policy, social structure, public opinion, etc have always sought to prevent women having complete agency of her own body, and have succeeded time and time again

In America, at one point not to long ago it was perfectly legal for a man to hospitalize a female kin because she didn't want to marry which was attributed to a form of hysteria by the male doctors

Today we have wealthy white men in congress trying to force women including rape victims to birth babies that they do not want

Slut shaming is just another way to police womens bodies

It's gotta to the point where woman dances inappropriately she's a "slut", a woman takes a semi nude picture on Instagram she is a "slut" , she sleeps with a man too fast she's a "slut"

Are you being serious or starting to troll now?

1. I specifically said proactive as in going out and selectively finding and choosing the right guys for them and not just having sex with any and everybody that comes along. So I'm not understanding why you even made this point. Yes, having sex with any and everybody is exercising free will. It's also slutty behavior regardless if it's practiced by a man or woman. Again, you seem to want frivolous and dangerous behavior to be applauded, and that is stupid.

2. You're just making excuses and throwing blame again. It's not about patriarchy. Men typically don't want to wife sluts. I don't think most men want virgins, but they do want women who have maintained some sort of exclusivity with regards to who they've given themselves to. Can you name one partriarchy produced public policy, social structure, public opinion, etc... that prevents women from holding men to that same standard? If a man doesn't want to marry a chick with a huge body count, that is not a matter of trying to police her body. That's just a man exercising his preference, and women are completely free to do that.

You say slut shaming is another way to police women's bodies. I say people actually believe slutty behavior is shameful and are vocal about that opinion.

Me the troll? Lol

The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll

As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same

It's undeniable

That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies

If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss

 

[Batman.]

1. A woman sleeping with whomever she's pleases even if that means sleeping with every suiter is her being proactive, practicing her free will

So how is that if women were to be appear to be more "selective" the solution, if I believe the problem with the double standard is that women are discouraged from exploring their sexuality any way they see fit? lol

Ur suggestion would be just another stipulation used to constrain women from enacting their sexual agency/practing their own free will lol

2. Obviously a woman has the choice to sleep with whomever she pleases

What I mean is that we live in a patriarchy. And the men with the influence to shape public policy, social structure, public opinion, etc have always sought to prevent women having complete agency of her own body, and have succeeded time and time again

In America, at one point not to long ago it was perfectly legal for a man to hospitalize a female kin because she didn't want to marry which was attributed to a form of hysteria by the male doctors

Today we have wealthy white men in congress trying to force women including rape victims to birth babies that they do not want

Slut shaming is just another way to police womens bodies

It's gotta to the point where woman dances inappropriately she's a "slut", a woman takes a semi nude picture on Instagram she is a "slut" , she sleeps with a man too fast she's a "slut"

Are you being serious or starting to troll now?

1. I specifically said proactive as in going out and selectively finding and choosing the right guys for them and not just having sex with any and everybody that comes along. So I'm not understanding why you even made this point. Yes, having sex with any and everybody is exercising free will. It's also slutty behavior regardless if it's practiced by a man or woman. Again, you seem to want frivolous and dangerous behavior to be applauded, and that is stupid.

2. You're just making excuses and throwing blame again. It's not about patriarchy. Men typically don't want to wife sluts. I don't think most men want virgins, but they do want women who have maintained some sort of exclusivity with regards to who they've given themselves to. Can you name one partriarchy produced public policy, social structure, public opinion, etc... that prevents women from holding men to that same standard? If a man doesn't want to marry a chick with a huge body count, that is not a matter of trying to police her body. That's just a man exercising his preference, and women are completely free to do that.

You say slut shaming is another way to police women's bodies. I say people actually believe slutty behavior is shameful and are vocal about that opinion.

You're coming off as a square.

Oh yeah side note where's that pic of me in the dick pic thread? I wanna put that as my sig.

 

[Knives Amilli]

lol Let me ask ya'll a couple questions about this so-called double standard. Women who sleep around get called sluts. Men who sleep around don't. That's about the gist of it right.

What gender do you think does the most slut shaming?

What gender chooses not to criticize men for the same poor behavior?

My personal opinion is that the answer to the first question is women. That's supported by the fact that this topic exists because a group of women were supposedly slut shaming Amber Rose.

The answer to the second question is definitely women.

So if women are the ones bashing women who adhere to low standards and aren't holding men to higher standards. Isn't this an internal female problem? And isn't this so-called double standard against women being largely perpetuated by the actions of women?

Women frown up at sexual liberation from other women due to the same reason Black people will frown up at "niggerish" behavior from other Black People: because both parties have bought into the tastes, beliefs, mores, that patriarchy/White Western Europe have conditioned them to believe in.

Understand that typically people who ARE MOST DEPENDENT on what ever system they are oppressed by will be the first ones who buy into the lies the system pumps out.

 

[Batman.]

When you talk about how women like amber rose are shameful understand that you're not a man when you say that.

You're like one of those muslims who have to make their women where linen because the feel threatened about other dudes look at them.

It's insecure, men are born to fuck a lot of pussy. That's just not a manly thing to say.

 

[NoCompetition]

Cool with me. I aint like the average dude to just jump on whatever broad cause you think she's attractive. I prefer to see what she about. So this is them showin what they about. And if i dont like what you portray i aint bothering you you can be all the slut you want not my concern i aint involved. Also sometimes dudes get tricked at least they being honest.

 

[BEAM]

Generally, men getting a lot of pussy = Good thing.

Generally, women getting a lot of dick = Bad thing.

The double standard is obvious, and has been around for centuries, cross-culturally;

Because all men have issues with pride ~ Which is why female slut shaming is mainly done by men.

No man wants to know that their woman has a past, so collectively ( and almost subconsciously ) men shame women into thinking that being promiscuous = Being a hoe; To lessen the chances of shorty having been with more men than a nigga's pride can handle.

That's the psychology behind it all.

It's really that simple.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Me the troll? Lol

The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll

As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same

It's undeniable

That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies

If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss

I'm not trolling. As I said before. I've explained why it's not a real double standard on multiple occasions, but if you'd like me to do so again I will.

For something to be a double standard, two parties have to be treated differently for some reason when all other things are equal.

There is a double standard when it comes to how women are paid because a woman can go into a company and do the same exact job as men (sometimes better) and still get paid a lower amount. That is a true double standard.

This whole slut vs playa bullshit isn't really a double standard because all other things are not equal due to traditional gender roles. The roles men and women are expected to play in sexuality and relationships are different. Men are expected to be the pursuers. Women are expected to be the discriminators and choosers.

Men get called playas or pimps or whatever you want to call it because if they have a lot of sex that means they have some set of skills or characteristics that lead to them getting chosen frequently. So besides simply having the sex, they are actually accomplishing something.

Women don't get that same respect when they have a lot of sex because they don't have to accomplish anything to have sex. It literally comes to them. Most women get hit on from sun up to sun down, so there is nothing particularly impressive getting a lot of dick. In fact, it really just meaning you're not playing that "discriminator" role too well.

The analogy I always use is that men are set up to be hunters and women are set up to be prey. The lion that can get the kill every time it goes out is going to be treated as a valued member of the pride. The gazelle that lays down and lets the lion get it is just food. There is nothing respectable about that.

It's not a double standard. That doesn't mean its fair. Women have the same urges men do, so they shouldn't necessarily be relegated solely to a role of discriminating between who offer is the best, but that's how the traditional gender roles are set up. Which is I've been saying this whole time that if you want to get rid of this so-called double standard, the best way is to get rid of the gender roles. And you don't do that by continuing to accept the role but complaining about the treatment you receive when you break the rules of that role. That's stupid

 

[desertrain10]

lol Let me ask ya'll a couple questions about this so-called double standard. Women who sleep around get called sluts. Men who sleep around don't. That's about the gist of it right.

What gender do you think does the most slut shaming?

What gender chooses not to criticize men for the same poor behavior?

My personal opinion is that the answer to the first question is women. That's supported by the fact that this topic exists because a group of women were supposedly slut shaming Amber Rose.

The answer to the second question is definitely women.

So if women are the ones bashing women who adhere to low standards and aren't holding men to higher standards. Isn't this an internal female problem? And isn't this so-called double standard against women being largely perpetuated by the actions of women?

Women frown up at sexual liberation from other women due to the same reason Black people will frown up at "niggerish" behavior from other Black People: because both parties have bought into the tastes, beliefs, mores, that patriarchy/White Western Europe have conditioned them to believe in.

Understand that typically people who ARE MOST DEPENDENT on what ever system they are oppressed by will be the first ones who buy into the lies the system pumps out.

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

[zombie]

Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top

And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well

You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to slut shame, subscribe to sexist double standards

Utter and total bullshit

Expound

You state that sexism and racism work in tandem to keep white men affluent and that's the reason why they are on top and every one else below.

But you discount that we live in a capitalistic democracy and that white people are the sole biggest population Therefore they will naturally be the most affluent population. If you remove sexism and racism whites will still be on top of the social structure because money and wealth are the greatest determining factors that decide status in a capitalistic society. Followed by race and then sex.

A capitalistic environment is intrinsically hostile because it's based on competition, IT'S the white family vs the black family for the use of economic resources. men have to play their role and women have to play their role when this works in harmony we are capable to attaining gains in this system when women/men engage in behaviors that fuck with this harmony we are weakened as a whole . Men will not respect sluts AND IF WE DON'T respect you we won't be inclined to marry you, because just like money pussy has value based on it's level of rarity. Now being that the family in the basic building block of any society if we don't marry you then it weaken black society within the usa.

so we slut shame you to disincentive behaviors that make you undesirable as mates.

 

[jono]

Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top

And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well

You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to slut shame, subscribe to sexist double standards

There you go again...

 

[Batman.]

Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top

And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well

You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to slut shame, subscribe to sexist double standards

Utter and total bullshit

Expound

You state that sexism and racism work in tandem to keep white men affluent and that's the reason why they are on top and every one else below.

But you discount that we live in a capitalistic democracy and that white people are the sole biggest population Therefore they will naturally be the most affluent population. If you remove sexism and racism whites will still be on top of the social structure because money and wealth are the greatest determining factors that decide status in a capitalistic society. Followed by race and then sex.

A capitalistic environment is intrinsically hostile because it's based on competition, IT'S the white family vs the black family for the use of economic resources. men have to play their role and women have to play their role when this works in harmony we are capable to attaining gains in this system when women/men engage in behaviors that fuck with this harmony we are weakened as a whole . Men will not respect sluts AND IF WE DON'T respect you we won't be inclined to marry you, because just like money pussy has value based on it's level of rarity. Now being that the family in the basic building block of any society if we don't marry you then it weaken black society within the usa.

so we slut shame you to disincentive behaviors that make you undesirable as mates.

Marriage, lol. What a faggot.

That aside. Sluts and non-sluts can co-exist, you don't have to marry a slut you fucking square. Let hoes be hoes.

 

[desertrain10]

Me the troll? Lol

The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll

As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same

It's undeniable

That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies

If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss

I'm not trolling. As I said before. I've explained why it's not a real double standard on multiple occasions, but if you'd like me to do so again I will.

For something to be a double standard, two parties have to be treated differently for some reason when all other things are equal.

There is a double standard when it comes to how women are paid because a woman can go into a company and do the same exact job as men (sometimes better) and still get paid a lower amount. That is a true double standard.

This whole slut vs playa bullshit isn't really a double standard because all other things are not equal due to traditional gender roles. The roles men and women are expected to play in sexuality and relationships are different. Men are expected to be the pursuers. Women are expected to be the discriminators and choosers.

Men get called playas or pimps or whatever you want to call it because if they have a lot of sex that means they have some set of skills or characteristics that lead to them getting chosen frequently. So besides simply having the sex, they are actually accomplishing something.

Women don't get that same respect when they have a lot of sex because they don't have to accomplish anything to have sex. It literally comes to them. Most women get hit on from sun up to sun down, so there is nothing particularly impressive getting a lot of dick. In fact, it really just meaning you're not playing that "discriminator" role too well.

The analogy I always use is that men are set up to be hunters and women are set up to be prey. The lion that can get the kill every time it goes out is going to be treated as a valued member of the pride. The gazelle that lays down and lets the lion get it is just food. There is nothing respectable about that.

It's not a double standard. That doesn't mean its fair. Women have the same urges men do, so they shouldn't necessarily be relegated solely to a role of discriminating between who offer is the best, but that's how the traditional gender roles are set up. Which is I've been saying this whole time that if you want to get rid of this so-called double standard, the best way is to get rid of the gender roles. And you don't do that by continuing to accept the role but complaining about the treatment you receive when you break the rules of that role. That's stupid

And lol @ women not accomplishing anything by having sex

While we may not always initiate contact, we accomplish and set the same goals as a man

And when we do intiate contact it can be with something as simple as a smile or a long stare

Than we also must first find a willing partner with whom find suitable to help satisfy our urges

But I disagress u admit women have the same urges men do and that all that needs to be said

We shouldn't be viewed any differently than men for acting on those urges

That is all that needs to be said

 

[BEAM]

women have the same urges men do and that all that needs to be said

We shouldn't be viewed any differently than men for acting on those urges

That is all that needs to be said

Period.

 

[zombie]

Me the troll? Lol

The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll

As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same

It's undeniable

That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies

If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss

I'm not trolling. As I said before. I've explained why it's not a real double standard on multiple occasions, but if you'd like me to do so again I will.

For something to be a double standard, two parties have to be treated differently for some reason when all other things are equal.

There is a double standard when it comes to how women are paid because a woman can go into a company and do the same exact job as men (sometimes better) and still get paid a lower amount. That is a true double standard.

This whole slut vs playa bullshit isn't really a double standard because all other things are not equal due to traditional gender roles. The roles men and women are expected to play in sexuality and relationships are different. Men are expected to be the pursuers. Women are expected to be the discriminators and choosers.

Men get called playas or pimps or whatever you want to call it because if they have a lot of sex that means they have some set of skills or characteristics that lead to them getting chosen frequently. So besides simply having the sex, they are actually accomplishing something.

Women don't get that same respect when they have a lot of sex because they don't have to accomplish anything to have sex. It literally comes to them. Most women get hit on from sun up to sun down, so there is nothing particularly impressive getting a lot of dick. In fact, it really just meaning you're not playing that "discriminator" role too well.

The analogy I always use is that men are set up to be hunters and women are set up to be prey. The lion that can get the kill every time it goes out is going to be treated as a valued member of the pride. The gazelle that lays down and lets the lion get it is just food. There is nothing respectable about that.

It's not a double standard. That doesn't mean its fair. Women have the same urges men do, so they shouldn't necessarily be relegated solely to a role of discriminating between who offer is the best, but that's how the traditional gender roles are set up. Which is I've been saying this whole time that if you want to get rid of this so-called double standard, the best way is to get rid of the gender roles. And you don't do that by continuing to accept the role but complaining about the treatment you receive when you break the rules of that role. That's stupid

And lol @ women not accomplishing anything by having sex

While we may not always initiate contact, we accomplish and set the same goals as a man

And when we do intiate contact it can be with something as simple as a smile or a long stare

Than we also must first find a willing partner with whom find suitable to help satisfy our urges

But I disagress u admit women have the same urges men do and that all that needs to be said

We shouldn't be viewed any differently than men for acting on those urges



That is all that needs to be said

yes you should because the results of you acting on those urges are more destructive to you and to society, it fosters misogyny and disrespect for women. you being a slut is going to encourage more men to seek out sluts which will then encourage more women to be sluts.

 

[zombie]

lol@equating slutiness with being an empowered woman.

from my impression of feminism when i first encountered it as a young woman was that it was very important to be valued for more than being a sexual objects, that men and the system needed to recognize our merits, intellectually or otherwise, outside of our sexuality. I have no idea how in the fuck shit went from that to totally reducing yourself to your sexuality.

Maybe we need to organize a Women/Girls in Science walks instead of this ludicrous bullshit

That should be the real focus of feminism not pushing women to be immoral whores

 

[Batman.]

Me the troll? Lol

The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll

As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same

It's undeniable

That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies

If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss

I'm not trolling. As I said before. I've explained why it's not a real double standard on multiple occasions, but if you'd like me to do so again I will.

For something to be a double standard, two parties have to be treated differently for some reason when all other things are equal.

There is a double standard when it comes to how women are paid because a woman can go into a company and do the same exact job as men (sometimes better) and still get paid a lower amount. That is a true double standard.

This whole slut vs playa bullshit isn't really a double standard because all other things are not equal due to traditional gender roles. The roles men and women are expected to play in sexuality and relationships are different. Men are expected to be the pursuers. Women are expected to be the discriminators and choosers.

Men get called playas or pimps or whatever you want to call it because if they have a lot of sex that means they have some set of skills or characteristics that lead to them getting chosen frequently. So besides simply having the sex, they are actually accomplishing something.

Women don't get that same respect when they have a lot of sex because they don't have to accomplish anything to have sex. It literally comes to them. Most women get hit on from sun up to sun down, so there is nothing particularly impressive getting a lot of dick. In fact, it really just meaning you're not playing that "discriminator" role too well.

The analogy I always use is that men are set up to be hunters and women are set up to be prey. The lion that can get the kill every time it goes out is going to be treated as a valued member of the pride. The gazelle that lays down and lets the lion get it is just food. There is nothing respectable about that.

It's not a double standard. That doesn't mean its fair. Women have the same urges men do, so they shouldn't necessarily be relegated solely to a role of discriminating between who offer is the best, but that's how the traditional gender roles are set up. Which is I've been saying this whole time that if you want to get rid of this so-called double standard, the best way is to get rid of the gender roles. And you don't do that by continuing to accept the role but complaining about the treatment you receive when you break the rules of that role. That's stupid

And lol @ women not accomplishing anything by having sex

While we may not always initiate contact, we accomplish and set the same goals as a man

And when we do intiate contact it can be with something as simple as a smile or a long stare

Than we also must first find a willing partner with whom find suitable to help satisfy our urges

But I disagress u admit women have the same urges men do and that all that needs to be said

We shouldn't be viewed any differently than men for acting on those urges



That is all that needs to be said

yes you should because the results of you acting on those urges are more destructive to you and to society, it fosters misogyny and disrespect for women. you being a slut is going to encourage more men to seek out sluts which will then encourage more women to be sluts.

This nigga white knighting.

 

[soul rattler]

Christians, Muslims, and Jews have historically persecuted women for being women. If they have sex, they could be killed. If they get raped, they could be killed for being raped. Showing their face, arms, or legs? Capital punishment. Speaking in the presence of men? Punishment.

This is enough for me to pick my position on this slut shaming thing.