Dumitru Duduman! The prophet from 1988 who saw Occupy Wall street!

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

...And Satan did the exact same thing you are doing on Jesus (it didn't work though)

Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. (Matthew 4:5, 6 KJV)

The scripture he quoted was Psalm 91:11-12.

Why didn't Jesus just throw himself down? Satan was quoting from God's Word.

Jesus tells us why He didn't throw himself down.

"Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matthew 4:7

 

[alissowack]

Jesus tells us why He didn't throw himself down.

"Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matthew 4:7

Of course!!! And that is where you dangerously thread...wanting to test the scriptures; wanting to test God.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Of course!!! And that is where you dangerously thread...wanting to test the scriptures; wanting to test God.

Nah I disagree. I'm not testing God. I'm obeying God.

Some wont believe the message, others will.

There will only be a remnant in the last days. So hey, all this is doing is proving God to be true. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

Nah I disagree. I'm not testing God. I'm obeying God.

Some wont believe the message, others will.

There will only be a remnant in the last days. So hey, all this is doing is proving God to be true. Amen.

But isn't that what Satan wanted Jesus to do...to obey?

 

[DRO]

that's where the faith piece comes in at my friend. I haven't even left babylon yet. So i don't have any plans for what i will do when i get to the destination god has already marked out for me. I can tell you a few things though that i know to be true because god has revealed them to me.

1. I will flee babylon

2. My destiny is in israel.

3. God will provide.

Anything i say after that, i would not be operating in faith. It's all about trust my brother. And all i trust in is god and in his word. Even when the world tells me i am wrong, i will always believe what god says. Nobody can tell me otherwise. Amen.

..so ur fleeing the country...

Whata bout the rest of those that serve god?.. You know, i know and he knows that everyone that follow his word will not have the means to make this trip that you are talking about.....

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

But isn't that what Satan wanted Jesus to do...to obey?

I'm obeying Gods commands, not satan.

 

[alissowack]

I'm obeying Gods commands, not satan.

But Satan used God's Word. He used scripture. How would you know the difference between God telling you and Satan telling you when they both are using the same words?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

..so ur fleeing the country...

Whata bout the rest of those that serve god?.. You know, i know and he knows that everyone that follow his word will not have the means to make this trip that you are talking about.....

Yes I am leaving PuPu. If God says it, that settles it. There are too many deceivers gone out into the world, just like Jesus said there would be. I'm following what God says in His word to the letter!

"Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;" Revelation 18:4

That is God speaking in the above passage of scripture. If you want to argue about staying in a place that God said He is going to destroy, well you'll be here to witness the destruction first hand. Amen.

Now about people not being able to flee, I disagree with that notion with all my heart. If God is El-Shaddai that means that He can do anything. The problem is not with God making a way, the problem is with us believing that God will make a way. A lot of people don't have faith PuPu. They may say all the right words, say all the right phrases, speak "christianese", but when push comes to shove most believers are faithless.

The God I serve can move mountains!

The God I serve can make a way out of no way!

The God I serve can stop the sun in it's course in order to give me more sunshine if needed!

The God I serve is the sovereign of the universe.

THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN'T DO!

You see the problem PuPu is faithlessness in the people of God. There are no obstacles for God! He can do anything! And I believe it with all my heart! God will snatch me away in a chariot of fire if thats how He has decreed for me to leave Babylon! I don't limit God in anything. He is the ALMIGHTY!

But check this out PuPu. Look at what God says about us:

"A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." Proverbs 27:12

You see how plain God makes His word PuPu? A prudent man has a vision and sees whats coming! Thus, when a prudent man sees what's coming, he takes precautions! I'm taking precautions. I'm getting ready for whats coming, because I see it. Nobody else can tell me different! If you don't take precautions God tells us what happens to those folks, "The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences"

I'm prudent my friend. God has made me so and I glorify Him. But the simple are not so! They always have objections. They always have excuses. They always want to argue. They always want to debate. But all the while they are going head long into the furnace and they will suffer the consequences!

I let the word of God do my talking PuPu. If there is one thing that the world can hold me guilty of, it is that I let God speak for Himself. The Bible has all the answers for every and any situation! I have complete trust in it PuPu.

The bottom line PuPu is that people lack faith. Thus they will not be prepared for whats coming, Instead the will suffer the consequences. And there will be A WHOLE LOT OF CONSEQUENCES to face if you are still living in Babylon when the sword comes.

You need to pray my brother and seriously seek God in this matter. You know God will lead you in the right direction. So seek His face and ask Him to reveal truth to you. You know I am always here for you my friend. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

But Satan used God's Word. He used scripture. How would you know the difference between God telling you and Satan telling you when they both are using the same words?

The Holy Spirit is my teacher. If your born-again you would know that.

 

[alissowack]

The Holy Spirit is my teacher. If your born-again you would know that.

And you think you have earned a spot to have the Holy Spirit talk to you?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

And you think you have earned a spot to have the Holy Spirit talk to you?

The Holy Spirit talks to all believers. And that fellowship is not earned, it is given through faith in Jesus Christ.

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." John 16:13

This hearkens back to my original assumption. From post #29 I said:

"Something is telling me that you haven't been spending enough time in His word my brother. By you diminishing the importance of Babylons fall, you are displaying your ignorance pretty shamefully. The trap is being laid right before our eyes. How you respond to that trap will be an indication of how much fellowship you truly have with God. Just saying."

So how much fellowship do you truly have with the Lord if your asking me such a question as you asked me? That's very unlearned to be honest. If your not even hearing from God, you may need to do this:

"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?" 2 Corinthians 13:5

Right now you are failing that test just from the words that you are speaking. Amen.

 

[The True Flesh]

If U.S. is Babylon and Zionist rule in modern day Israel is almost entirely enforced by the U.S.

How could moving there be a means of coming out of Babylon?

One question for the T/S.......do you think that the use of the words "city" or "nation" are always literal or are they sometimes metaphorical?

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Revelation 3:12

Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. Micah 4:10

The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD.

For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your reward. Isaiah 52:10-12

Moving to Israel now won't matter.......

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. Isaiah 34:4

The whole earth and all that is therein will be destroyed.......including modern day Zionist Israel.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10

This is the order:

In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;

And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. Micah 4:6-7

And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem. Micah 4:8

If we make the physical trek to another land it will only be temporary.

We must depart Babylon in our hearts.......Then the Kingdom will come to us. Where we are geographically won't matter at all.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Revelation 21:2

PEACE

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

If U.S. is Babylon and Zionist rule in modern day Israel is almost entirely enforced by the U.S.

How could moving there be a means of coming out of Babylon?

One question for the T/S.......do you think that the use of the words "city" or "nation" are always literal or are they sometimes metaphorical?

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Revelation 3:12

Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. Micah 4:10

The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD.

For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your reward. Isaiah 52:10-12

Moving to Israel now won't matter.......

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. Isaiah 34:4

The whole earth and all that is therein will be destroyed.......including modern day Zionist Israel.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10

This is the order:

In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;

And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. Micah 4:6-7

And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem. Micah 4:8

If we make the physical trek to another land it will only be temporary.

We must depart Babylon in our hearts.......Then the Kingdom will come to us. Where we are geographically won't matter at all.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Revelation 21:2

PEACE

Whats up my brother True Flesh? God says that "Mystery Babylon" is a physical location. There is nothing metaphorical about it. As for other references to "cities" or "nations" being metaphorical, I would have to see the passage of scripture that your referring to.

Also, the reason why one must go to Israel in the last days is to be part of the wilderness deliverance spoken of by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:15-20, Revelation 12, and Daniel 11:41.

Israel will be trampled down by the Antichrist in the last days, but God will deliver a remnant when the abomination of desolation happens. Jesus tells those who are in Judea to flee to the mountains when the AOD happens (Matthew 24:15-20).

Daniel 11:41 tells us that the modern day country of Jordan will escape out of the Antichrist hand because those who are in Judea fleeing will be fleeing to the wilderness, by way of the country of Jordan.

Revelation 12 details the deliverance that will happen for all those who fled from Judea, through Jordan, and down into the wilderness of Paran.

God gives us His gameplan in His word. God always delivers a remnant. Whether it was the 8 on the Arc, Lot from Sodom, the 7,000 who didn't bow the knee to Baal, or the end-time remnant of Revelation 12. Those who are wise will understand these things. Our God changes not.

The thing about all this is, is that God works things out in order. The first thing that has to happen is the falling of Babylon, that is why God says this, "You that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind." Jeremiah 51:50

Only those who listen to what God says, which is to flee, will escape the sword. And when they do escape they are to go to Jerusalem. God gives us clear instructions, the only thing left to do is for us to obey.

Just like Paul knew his destiny was in Rome, I know mine is in Israel. What purpose I have over there, remains to be seen. But I do know that I will get there because God has already promised me. All I have to do is trust and believe. In the mean time God has given me a message to preach against Babylon because it is about to fall. All I can do is give out the word and let the word do what it does. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

The Holy Spirit talks to all believers. And that fellowship is not earned, it is given through faith in Jesus Christ.

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." John 16:13

This hearkens back to my original assumption. From post #29 I said:

"Something is telling me that you haven't been spending enough time in His word my brother. By you diminishing the importance of Babylons fall, you are displaying your ignorance pretty shamefully. The trap is being laid right before our eyes. How you respond to that trap will be an indication of how much fellowship you truly have with God. Just saying."

So how much fellowship do you truly have with the Lord if your asking me such a question as you asked me? That's very unlearned to be honest. If your not even hearing from God, you may need to do this:

"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?" 2 Corinthians 13:5

Right now you are failing that test just from the words that you are speaking. Amen.

Again, do you think you have "earned" a spot to have the Holy Spirit speak to you? Because, there is just this sense that you think that you have gained God's Favor. Don't use the Bible as a cover-up.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Again, do you think you have "earned" a spot to have the Holy Spirit speak to you? Because, there is just this sense that you think that you have gained God's Favor. Don't use the Bible as a cover-up.

How can something be earned when it is freely given?

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." John 16:13

Do you know what this verse is saying?

 

[noirwar]

So what do yo stand on in these last days my friend? Truth or error?

I stand outside of that stuff Do-U. I like to see what's up as a lurker here. I will wait and see if the Lamb will return as a Lion. If it doesn't happen I won't poke fun. But I do find others peoples faith and passion interesting. I used to flow with it until I got an understanding of why things are the way they are now.

Keep your faith I will stand firmly on mine. Like I said what would the light be without the dark. I have come to my own in the distinguishing nature religion has wrought to man's views.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

I stand outside of that stuff Do-U. I like to see what's up as a lurker here. I will wait and see if the Lamb will return as a Lion. If it doesn't happen I won't poke fun. But I do find others peoples faith and passion interesting. I used to flow with it until I got an understanding of why things are the way they are now.

Keep your faith I will stand firmly on mine. Like I said what would the light be without the dark. I have come to my own in the distinguishing nature religion has wrought to man's views.

Interesting my friend. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. May seeds of truth be planted into your spirit so that when you do see the Lion come, with all the host of heaven, He will have no trouble recognizing you and accepting you into His kingdom. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

How can something be earned when it is freely given?

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." John 16:13

Do you know what this verse is saying?

Oh, I'm aware of what the verse is saying. But you carry yourself as if you have a God-given right to use God's Word as you personally see fit, not as the Holy Spirit leads you. There is no sense that God has any control over your life. The end will come, and if America meets it's end, so be it. But, telling people that America is going to be destroyed is not the gospel. Pointing out events, however coincidental or not, is not a way to show how much the world needs Jesus. The issue goes far deeper than whether America will get bombed...far deeper. The end of the world is far deeper than what you...or even I think it is.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Oh, I'm aware of what the verse is saying. But you carry yourself as if you have a God-given right to use God's Word as you personally see fit, not as the Holy Spirit leads you. There is no sense that God has any control over your life. The end will come, and if America meets it's end, so be it. But, telling people that America is going to be destroyed is not the gospel. Pointing out events, however coincidental or not, is not a way to show how much the world needs Jesus. The issue goes far deeper than whether America will get bombed...far deeper. The end of the world is far deeper than what you...or even I think it is.

I love you my friend. Amen.

 

[alissowack]

I love you my friend. Amen.

Only God knows what love is.