Dude Gets Killed Over Running A Train After Chick Lies And Says She Was Raped

[blackgod813]

I been thru two sexual assault cases..not pleasant

I knew you got raped by a opa locka goon

But from all the places.m. :'(

 

[Westie]

Regardless of what the "actual numbers" are, a simple google search should be enough to inform you that it happens more often than it should and is a serious problem.

Most would say the same thing about rape

You said many of them ....implying what ...out of total rapes reported ???

I in no way condone someone falsely accusing another person of rape and have already said they should be convicted and sentenced.

To make any assumption... like you did ...is stupid

You're speaking from a perspective of white privilege and entitlement.

So you probably don't even fully understand what you're implying.........or maybe you do, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't.

Basically, you're trying to minimize the problem and make it seem like it's not serious because you've probably heard that false rape accusations/convictions only represent a small percentage of all rape cases.

I'm not disputing that, but I have enough empathy to understand that regardless of how small the percentage is...........it's still a problem for those few people who are unfortunate enough to fall into that percentile.

However, I don't want this to devolve into a back and forth so I'll give you your stats.
http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf

Spoiler

To date, much of the research conducted on the prevalence of false allegations of sexual assaultsis unreliable because of inconsistencies with definitions and methods employed to evaluatedata (Archambault, n.d.). A review of research finds that the prevalence of false reporting is between 2 percent and 10 percent. The following studies support these findings:

A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault founda 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009).

A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Bostonfrom 1998-2007 found a 5.9 percent rate

of false reports (Lisak et al., 2010).

Using qualitative and quantitative analysis, researchers studied 812 reports of sexual

assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1 percent rate of false reports (Heenan

& Murray 2006).

Many published reports do not clearly define false allegation, and often include data that falls outside

of most accepted definitions (Lisak et al., 2010).

The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) upholds that, “The determination that a report

of sexual assault is false can be made only if the evidence establishes that no crime was committed

or attempted” (IACP National Law Enforcement Policy Center, 2005, pp. 12-13).

The FBI and IACP have issued guidelines that exclude certain factors, by themselves, from constituting a false report (Lisak et al., 2010, p. 1320). These include:

Insufficient evidence to proceed to prosecution

Delayed reporting

Victims deciding not to cooperate with investigators

Inconsistencies in victim statement

While some police departments may follow these guidelines, it is not mandatory, and as a result, many do not. In addition, gaps in law enforcement training may inadvertently encourage identifying any of the following factors as indicators of a false report: delayed reporting, victim indifference to injuries, vagueness, or victim’s attempt to steer away from unsafe details, suspect description,or location of offense (Archambault, 2005).

As a result, many reports are classified as “false.”

Conclusion

Research shows that rates of false reporting are frequently inflated, in part because of inconsistent definitions and protocols, or a weak understanding of sexual assault.

Misconceptions about false reporting rates have direct, negative consequences and can contribute to why many

victims don’t report sexual assaults (Lisak etal., 2010).

To improve the response to victims of sexual violence, law enforcement and service providers need a thorough understanding of sexual violence and consistency in their definitions, policies and procedures.

From what I've read, the general consensus is between 2 and 10 percent.

That's a pretty wide range, and the article even admits that it's somewhat misleading due to various definitions of what actually constitutes a false rape accusation.

However, even if you choose to go on the lower end of 2 percent.......that's still a significant number of false rape accusations.

Again, small consolation to anyone who's in that 2 percent.

Its not that those 2-10% shouldn't be acknowledged...its when people use that small minority to create a narrative for the majority of rape accusations.

That's the problem..........you're acting like 2-10% is an insignificant number, but it isn't.

That's a wide range bruh.

If you want to break it down further, the median is 6%.

Now, if we were talking about economics, gdp, earnings reports, annual returns, changes in employment rate, etc........what you consider a "small minority" would be considered a major stat.

2-10%...........and/or a 6% median...........is a serious problem.

So when I say about out of every 1000 rapes that occur, only 6 are convicted, is that a small or large number? it's very concerning when it happens that someone is falsely accused of rape, but are you concerned at all with the number of victims who never get Justice? or is that not a serious problem?

Both are serious problems.

That's why it's so hard for me to understand why more women don't speak out against false rape accusations.

It hurts actual victims of rape almost as much as the falsely accused.

Simply because there's probably a strong correlation between the number of false rape accusations and the number of victims who don't get justice because they assume that they're lying........based on other people who have lied in similar situations.

Basically, the "boy/girl who cried wolf" effect.

Meaning, even though a particular individual may not have lied about their situation........their credibility is compromised/questioned based on similar situations in which another person was lying.

What is happening here, is that people focus on the falsely accused men OVER the victims. Men have been raping as a way of life for eons. women having recourse for this is a new thing. So think of all this implies. Between 2 - 8% of rapes are falsely reported. So that discounts the other 92% That are actual assault? you don't think that's more of a societal problem that's focused on discounting every single real victim Because of the very few False ones?

so that means 92% of rapists are given in extreme benefit of the doubt while 92% of the victims are Unfairly treated as if they are on trial for someone assaulting them. What's fair about that?

 

[Westie]

Think about that out of 1000 rapes 6 perpetrators are actually convicted and all we can say is what about those wrongfully convicted. that's like a percentage of the six out of 1000. NAH this society definitely doesn't have a victim-blaming culture.

 

[blackrain]

Regardless of what the "actual numbers" are, a simple google search should be enough to inform you that it happens more often than it should and is a serious problem.

Most would say the same thing about rape

You said many of them ....implying what ...out of total rapes reported ???

I in no way condone someone falsely accusing another person of rape and have already said they should be convicted and sentenced.

To make any assumption... like you did ...is stupid

You're speaking from a perspective of white privilege and entitlement.

So you probably don't even fully understand what you're implying.........or maybe you do, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't.

Basically, you're trying to minimize the problem and make it seem like it's not serious because you've probably heard that false rape accusations/convictions only represent a small percentage of all rape cases.

I'm not disputing that, but I have enough empathy to understand that regardless of how small the percentage is...........it's still a problem for those few people who are unfortunate enough to fall into that percentile.

However, I don't want this to devolve into a back and forth so I'll give you your stats.
http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf

Spoiler

To date, much of the research conducted on the prevalence of false allegations of sexual assaultsis unreliable because of inconsistencies with definitions and methods employed to evaluatedata (Archambault, n.d.). A review of research finds that the prevalence of false reporting is between 2 percent and 10 percent. The following studies support these findings:

A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault founda 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009).

A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Bostonfrom 1998-2007 found a 5.9 percent rate

of false reports (Lisak et al., 2010).

Using qualitative and quantitative analysis, researchers studied 812 reports of sexual

assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1 percent rate of false reports (Heenan

& Murray 2006).

Many published reports do not clearly define false allegation, and often include data that falls outside

of most accepted definitions (Lisak et al., 2010).

The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) upholds that, “The determination that a report

of sexual assault is false can be made only if the evidence establishes that no crime was committed

or attempted” (IACP National Law Enforcement Policy Center, 2005, pp. 12-13).

The FBI and IACP have issued guidelines that exclude certain factors, by themselves, from constituting a false report (Lisak et al., 2010, p. 1320). These include:

Insufficient evidence to proceed to prosecution

Delayed reporting

Victims deciding not to cooperate with investigators

Inconsistencies in victim statement

While some police departments may follow these guidelines, it is not mandatory, and as a result, many do not. In addition, gaps in law enforcement training may inadvertently encourage identifying any of the following factors as indicators of a false report: delayed reporting, victim indifference to injuries, vagueness, or victim’s attempt to steer away from unsafe details, suspect description,or location of offense (Archambault, 2005).

As a result, many reports are classified as “false.”

Conclusion

Research shows that rates of false reporting are frequently inflated, in part because of inconsistent definitions and protocols, or a weak understanding of sexual assault.

Misconceptions about false reporting rates have direct, negative consequences and can contribute to why many

victims don’t report sexual assaults (Lisak etal., 2010).

To improve the response to victims of sexual violence, law enforcement and service providers need a thorough understanding of sexual violence and consistency in their definitions, policies and procedures.

From what I've read, the general consensus is between 2 and 10 percent.

That's a pretty wide range, and the article even admits that it's somewhat misleading due to various definitions of what actually constitutes a false rape accusation.

However, even if you choose to go on the lower end of 2 percent.......that's still a significant number of false rape accusations.

Again, small consolation to anyone who's in that 2 percent.

Its not that those 2-10% shouldn't be acknowledged...its when people use that small minority to create a narrative for the majority of rape accusations.

That's the problem..........you're acting like 2-10% is an insignificant number, but it isn't.

That's a wide range bruh.

If you want to break it down further, the median is 6%.

Now, if we were talking about economics, gdp, earnings reports, annual returns, changes in employment rate, etc........what you consider a "small minority" would be considered a major stat.

2-10%...........and/or a 6% median...........is a serious problem.

So when I say about out of every 1000 rapes that occur, only 6 are convicted, is that a small or large number? it's very concerning when it happens that someone is falsely accused of rape, but are you concerned at all with the number of victims who never get Justice? or is that not a serious problem?

Both are serious problems.

That's why it's so hard for me to understand why more women don't speak out against false rape accusations.

It hurts actual victims of rape almost as much as the falsely accused.

Simply because there's probably a strong correlation between the number of false rape accusations and the number of victims who don't get justice because they assume that they're lying........based on other people who have lied in similar situations.

Basically, the "boy/girl who cried wolf" effect.

Meaning, even though a particular individual may not have lied about their situation........their credibility is compromised/questioned based on similar situations in which another person was lying.

That is actually why some police departments say they dont prosecute for false rape allegations...

 

[deadeye]

Think about that out of 1000 rapes 6 perpetrators are actually convicted and all we can say is what about those wrongfully convicted. that's like a percentage of the six out of 1000. NAH this society definitely doesn't have a victim-blaming culture.

Are we talking about 1000 actual rapes or 1000 rape accusations?

Assuming they're rape accusations, if we're being true to the stats of 2-10%........than, at a minimum, 20 of those accusations are false.

If we assume the worst case of 10%, that's 100 false rape accusations.

And if we go with the median of 6%, that's 60 false rape accusations.

Again, we're assuming based on general consensus that the range is 2-10%.

It could actually be a lot greater than that.

If only 6 out of 1000 rape accusations result in convictions, is it possible that.......the women weren't necessarily lying..........but that what happened to them wasn't necessarily rape?

Not saying 994 of them were lying, but........statistically speaking..........at least 20-100 of them were false.

Put it like this: we know white women have a longstanding history of making false rape accusations against black men.

Several black men have been lynched for this throughout the history of this country.

Obviously, we're still here........so, going by your logic.........."most" black men didn't get lynched over a white woman lying.

It was probably a small percentage overall, but what you and others don't quite seem to understand is that a small percentage can still be a serious problem.........regardless of how many black men "didn't" get lynched over a white woman's lies.

Now, I know you don't have that attitude about lynchings...........yet, you can't quite seem to apply the same principles to false rape accusations.

Probably because it doesn't affect you directly, which is somewhat understandable.

I doubt you're at risk for anyone falsely accusing you of rape.

As a man, however, I don't have that luxury.

 

[Westie]

@deadeye

oh poor you you might get accused of rape you have a very very small percentage of a chance that you will get accused of rape do you know what the likelihood of me getting raped is? My daughters? Any female in your family? Take a fucking guess. your post is insulting and ridiculous. You don't have that ****luxury*****????? would you rather get fucked in the ass?

 

[Westie]

If you're going to talk atrocities and put in exact comparison it's as if 1000 people got lynched and out of the 1,000 people, 2-8% of the 6 actually hung themselves, but the families lied. but 994 of those white men that lynched those black men got off.

 

[CapitalB]

In college one of my homies almost caught a situation like this. Knocked down a chick with a bf, and when he dissed her afterward she told the bf she got raped. Dude came with his crew to my boys place with baseball bats and shit.

Luckily when he told the boyfriend it was consensual, he believed him and dipped. The girl came with him and was screaming and crying at my boy when they left. Deep down the man knew his girl was a slut thot. More niggas should be aware of their bitch ho tendencies.

this happened to my best friend at the time..

well something similar..

he was cool wit the chick and her dude.. in fact more tight wit the nigga..

anyways.. ol girl was at his house.. his pops was there and everything and she braided his hair..

bitch left two days later he calling me talking about his pa'tna was after him behind the bitch saying he raped her..

he say he didn't touch her and I believe her..

but the bitch did get taken down at a party in-between days and I think getting caught up she blamed the shit on my nigga.. anyways.. my nigga didn't bang or none of that but the other nigga did so me being me always worried about other fuckin people kinda took the heat and got involved.. well shit got big at that point and for some reason parents got involved.. well.. they made the girl call the police and now the police got involved..

I never seen no shit like that.. a bitch jus can say she was raped and they basically busted down his pops door and took his ass in..

did a rape kit on the bitch and found 4 other samples of semen NONE matching my partners.. BUT THEY KEPT HIS ASS IN JAIL ANYWAY!!! and the prosecutor was aggressive as fuck.. bitch story changed like 3 times from her partents to the cop to the detective to the courts.. AND THEY STILL WAS READY TO TAKE THAT SHIT TO TRIAL!!!

my nigga was so scared for his life he took a plea jus to get out of jail..

I was sick.. I think he was jus tired of being in jail.. me I wouldve said take that shit to court but he wasn't built like that..

but anyways its crazy how society does u if ur so much as labeled a rapist.. even if its a KNOWN SLUT screaming that shit..

niggas talked bad about him and me for defending him..

we eventually fell out cause even I had my doubts.. I jus didnt understand how he could take a plea..

I mean I'm older now and its easy to understand..

but at the time.. nah... I wouldve went to war for that nigga.. and he wouldn't even go to trial for himself. but that jus comes to show u how this shit is set up and one of the main reasons I be like fuck these bitches..

where's the proof.

 

[Westie]

Uuuuggghh I be trying to chill but some of y'all are fucking TRASH

 

[Westie]

Yup you too

 

[CapitalB]

Yup you too

 

[Westie]

Yup you too

I ain't the one with issues with females so.....

Anyway I chuckled

 

[CapitalB]

Yup you too

I ain't the one with issues with females so.....

Anyway I chuckled

I aint got issues wit females either..

bitches tho??

and of course u did.

 

[Westie]

Yup you too

I ain't the one with issues with females so.....

Anyway I chuckled

I aint got issues wit females either..

bitches tho??

and of course u did.

So you grew up with a healthy attitude towards women....

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[CapitalB]

Yup you too

I ain't the one with issues with females so.....

Anyway I chuckled

I aint got issues wit females either..

bitches tho??

and of course u did.

So you grew up with a healthy attitude towards women....

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women?? yes

bitches tho??

 

[CapitalB]

@Westie

as I told one of them lesbian fuck niggas in the other thread..

I have a 90yr old great grandmother thats still living..

I'm my grandmother's world.. my mothers closest child.. I have a sister and daughter..

to go even further I have platonic female friends..

even the females that work for me I treat with the upmost respect.. even on this very site..

I have a healthy relationship with WOMEN..

but bitches tho??

but whats ur issues wit MEN tho??

cause u the one in here emotionally scarred and scorned..

im good over here.

 

[deadeye]

In college one of my homies almost caught a situation like this. Knocked down a chick with a bf, and when he dissed her afterward she told the bf she got raped. Dude came with his crew to my boys place with baseball bats and shit.

Luckily when he told the boyfriend it was consensual, he believed him and dipped. The girl came with him and was screaming and crying at my boy when they left. Deep down the man knew his girl was a slut thot. More niggas should be aware of their bitch ho tendencies.

this happened to my best friend at the time..

well something similar..

he was cool wit the chick and her dude.. in fact more tight wit the nigga..

anyways.. ol girl was at his house.. his pops was there and everything and she braided his hair..

bitch left two days later he calling me talking about his pa'tna was after him behind the bitch saying he raped her..

he say he didn't touch her and I believe her..

but the bitch did get taken down at a party in-between days and I think getting caught up she blamed the shit on my nigga.. anyways.. my nigga didn't bang or none of that but the other nigga did so me being me always worried about other fuckin people kinda took the heat and got involved.. well shit got big at that point and for some reason parents got involved.. well.. they made the girl call the police and now the police got involved..

I never seen no shit like that.. a bitch jus can say she was raped and they basically busted down his pops door and took his ass in..

did a rape kit on the bitch and found 4 other samples of semen NONE matching my partners.. BUT THEY KEPT HIS ASS IN JAIL ANYWAY!!! and the prosecutor was aggressive as fuck.. bitch story changed like 3 times from her partents to the cop to the detective to the courts.. AND THEY STILL WAS READY TO TAKE THAT SHIT TO TRIAL!!!

my nigga was so scared for his life he took a plea jus to get out of jail..

I was sick.. I think he was jus tired of being in jail.. me I wouldve said take that shit to court but he wasn't built like that..

but anyways its crazy how society does u if ur so much as labeled a rapist.. even if its a KNOWN SLUT screaming that shit..

niggas talked bad about him and me for defending him..

we eventually fell out cause even I had my doubts.. I jus didnt understand how he could take a plea..

I mean I'm older now and its easy to understand..

but at the time.. nah... I wouldve went to war for that nigga.. and he wouldn't even go to trial for himself. but that jus comes to show u how this shit is set up and one of the main reasons I be like fuck these bitches..

where's the proof.

@BOSSExcellence

You think your boy would've felt better if he knew that he was only part of a small percentage of men who are falsely accused of rape?

@Westie

Do you think that would've made him feel any better?

 

[Westie]

@Westie

as I told one of them lesbian fuck niggas in the other thread..

I have a 90yr old great grandmother thats still living..

I'm my grandmother's world.. my mothers closest child.. I have a sister and daughter..

to go even further I have platonic female friends..

even the females that work for me I treat with the upmost respect.. even on this very site..

I have a healthy relationship with WOMEN..

but bitches tho??

but whats ur issues wit MEN tho??

cause u the one in here emotionally scarred and scorned..

im good over here.

Lol nah y'all are just awful and I point it out.

 

[Westie]

In college one of my homies almost caught a situation like this. Knocked down a chick with a bf, and when he dissed her afterward she told the bf she got raped. Dude came with his crew to my boys place with baseball bats and shit.

Luckily when he told the boyfriend it was consensual, he believed him and dipped. The girl came with him and was screaming and crying at my boy when they left. Deep down the man knew his girl was a slut thot. More niggas should be aware of their bitch ho tendencies.

this happened to my best friend at the time..

well something similar..

he was cool wit the chick and her dude.. in fact more tight wit the nigga..

anyways.. ol girl was at his house.. his pops was there and everything and she braided his hair..

bitch left two days later he calling me talking about his pa'tna was after him behind the bitch saying he raped her..

he say he didn't touch her and I believe her..

but the bitch did get taken down at a party in-between days and I think getting caught up she blamed the shit on my nigga.. anyways.. my nigga didn't bang or none of that but the other nigga did so me being me always worried about other fuckin people kinda took the heat and got involved.. well shit got big at that point and for some reason parents got involved.. well.. they made the girl call the police and now the police got involved..

I never seen no shit like that.. a bitch jus can say she was raped and they basically busted down his pops door and took his ass in..

did a rape kit on the bitch and found 4 other samples of semen NONE matching my partners.. BUT THEY KEPT HIS ASS IN JAIL ANYWAY!!! and the prosecutor was aggressive as fuck.. bitch story changed like 3 times from her partents to the cop to the detective to the courts.. AND THEY STILL WAS READY TO TAKE THAT SHIT TO TRIAL!!!

my nigga was so scared for his life he took a plea jus to get out of jail..

I was sick.. I think he was jus tired of being in jail.. me I wouldve said take that shit to court but he wasn't built like that..

but anyways its crazy how society does u if ur so much as labeled a rapist.. even if its a KNOWN SLUT screaming that shit..

niggas talked bad about him and me for defending him..

we eventually fell out cause even I had my doubts.. I jus didnt understand how he could take a plea..

I mean I'm older now and its easy to understand..

but at the time.. nah... I wouldve went to war for that nigga.. and he wouldn't even go to trial for himself. but that jus comes to show u how this shit is set up and one of the main reasons I be like fuck these bitches..

where's the proof.

@BOSSExcellence

You think your boy would've felt better if he knew that he was only part of a small percentage of men who are falsely accused of rape?

@Westie

Do you think that would've made him feel any better?

I dgaf I promise you

 

[Westie]

Nah @deadeye don't cop out of that post.

Would you rather be accused or violated?