Dude Gets Killed Over Running A Train After Chick Lies And Says She Was Raped

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Damn I just read in so many words that its quite OK and expected that a person's good name should be ruined just to further an investigation for some shit that person may not have even done.

What if the accused did do it?????

Releasing a pictue or name of the accused could compell a witness to come forward to possibly help put a rapist in prison....which has happened countless of times

Or what if a witness comes forward after seeing the accused mugshot to clear his name...which has happened countless of times. Had we kept his identity anonymous until a conviction think of what that could possibly mean for the accused... The investigation would have to be reopened...Appeal made...There would have to be another trail...etc

So yes as i alluded to I'm torn

Being falsely accused of a crime as serious as rape or murder is horrible

But if our main 2 goals should be arriving at the truth and crime prevention...why put up any more road block that could potential make it harder for investigators to get to the truth

Lol

Use ur words bruh

Its not as simple or black and white as ur making it seem

We keep the accused name anonymous until a conviction there will be rapist who escape justice and more innocent men who go to jail

No question about that

 

[D. Morgan]

Damn I just read in so many words that its quite OK and expected that a person's good name should be ruined just to further an investigation for some shit that person may not have even done.

What if the accused did do it?????

Releasing a pictue or name of the accused could compell a witness to come forward to possibly help put a rapist in prison....which has happened countless of times

Or what if a witness comes forward after seeing the accused mugshot to clear his name...which has happened countless of times. Had we kept his identity anonymous until a conviction think of what that could possibly mean for the accused... The investigation would have to be reopened...Appeal made...There would have to be another trail...etc

So yes as i alluded to I'm torn

Being falsely accused of a crime as serious as rape or murder is horrible

But if our main 2 goals should be arriving at the truth and crime prevention...why put up any more road block that could potential make it harder for investigators to get to the truth

Lol

Use ur words bruh

Its not as simple or black and white as ur making it seem

We keep the accused name anonymous until a conviction there will be rapist who escape justice and more innocent men who go to jail

No question about that

The gif I used had words

With the way its set up now innocent people still go to jail and guilty people still go free regardless of the crime committed.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Damn I just read in so many words that its quite OK and expected that a person's good name should be ruined just to further an investigation for some shit that person may not have even done.

What if the accused did do it?????

Releasing a pictue or name of the accused could compell a witness to come forward to possibly help put a rapist in prison....which has happened countless of times

Or what if a witness comes forward after seeing the accused mugshot to clear his name...which has happened countless of times. Had we kept his identity anonymous until a conviction think of what that could possibly mean for the accused... The investigation would have to be reopened...Appeal made...There would have to be another trail...etc

So yes as i alluded to I'm torn

Being falsely accused of a crime as serious as rape or murder is horrible

But if our main 2 goals should be arriving at the truth and crime prevention...why put up any more road block that could potential make it harder for investigators to get to the truth

Lol

Use ur words bruh

Its not as simple or black and white as ur making it seem

We keep the accused name anonymous until a conviction there will be rapist who escape justice and more innocent men who go to jail

No question about that

The gif I used had words

With the way its set up now innocent people still go to jail and guilty people still go free regardless of the crime committed.

Unfortunately yes

But that is not a direct result of the accusers name being released during an investigation

We keep the accused name anonymous until a conviction there will be MORE rapist who escape justice and MORE innocent men who go to jail

 

[D. Morgan]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser or the accuser just flat out lied

They case could go either way

But there are 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they have no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they saw to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Hummm 4 hours later and STILL NO WOMAN TO ANSWER TO THE MAIN QUESTIONS.

After the smoke clears....

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

Yes they should get punished, and idk what the sentence should be. It should be jail time.

This isn't about avoiding the main subject it's a related topic.

yes the thread did get derailed but the woman cried rape why isn't that a natural deviation from topic? Rape is in the subject.

Yes indeed it derailed.

Please dont disrespect RAPE by using it when it comes to LIARS. She got everything but RAPE.

She just lied about something really bad that can have lethal consequences.

If my sister comes to me and cris rape, it will take me HOURS before i put a critical reflexion on that. Because when a woman gets rape, HER WHOLE FAMILLY GETS RAPE TOO. Hence the usage of rape as a war tactic to EMASCULATE, HUMILIATE THE MEN. One can act up and loud but you are psychologocally BEATEN if someone rape one of the familly's females upfront.

Did that promiscuous woman knew? This has to be investigated.

Did you just make a violation of a woman's body about MEN????

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Yes i did. WE ARE SOCIAL BEINGS and rape consequences goes BEYOND THE WOMAN'S BODY. Hence the thread : a man has killed for it.

KILLED!

Plus MEN GET RAPED TOO!!

Lets not waist our time with trying to genderize rape.

Rape is social

Political

Warfare

 

[D. Morgan]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser

And there 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they say to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

You saying all that like the shit is perfect now and innocent folks don't go to jail.

No matter the process like I said before some innocent people going to go to jail and some guilty people going to walk free.

I'm just of the opinion that people's faces shouldn't be plastered everywhere when its quite possible they didn't commit the crime.

No system is perfect I just feel folks names and faces shouldn't attached to shit before its proven they done it.

Everybody ain't a good citizen so just because these witnesses favorable to the accused sees his face and can exonerate him doesn't mean they will do so just that because its the right thing to do.

The main point is even with being proven innocent that still doesn't change the fact that said persons face has now been plastered on the news as a possible rapist when that is a crime he was proven to have not done.

You know the news and newspaper don't run stories saying the guy picture we've been showing you all for 2 weeks straight has been proven that he isn't the rapist.

Imagine a father going to pick his child from school how the teachers and parents going to look at him regardless of being proven innocent.

Child will never be able to have friends come over to the house for birthday parties or sleepovers. All because an innocent man face was on the news for some shit he didn't do.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser

And there 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they say to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

You saying all that like the shit is perfect now and innocent folks don't go to jail.

No matter the process like I said before some innocent people going to go to jail and some guilty people going to walk free.

I'm just of the opinion that people's faces shouldn't be plastered everywhere when its quite possible they didn't commit the crime.

No system is perfect I just feel folks names and faces shouldn't attached to shit before its proven they done it.

Everybody ain't a good citizen so just because these witnesses favorable to the accused sees his face and can exonerate him doesn't mean they will do so just that because its the right thing to do.

The main point is even with being proven innocent that still doesn't change the fact that said persons face has now been plastered on the news as a possible rapist when that is a crime he was proven to have not done.

You know the news and newspaper don't run stories saying the guy picture we've been showing you all for 2 weeks straight has been proven that he isn't the rapist.

Imagine a father going to pick his child from school how the teachers and parents going to look at him regardless of being proven innocent.

Child will never be able to have friends come over to the house for birthday parties or sleepovers. All because an innocent man face was on the news for some shit he didn't do.

I understand the system is flawed

My point is that what u r proposing makes getting justice exponentially harder ...

And ppl can move ...only a very small percentage of rape cases make the news and an even smaller percentage make the national news

A false rape accusation does not always end in the accused life being ruined beyond repair

See it will celebrities and even average folk

Their families community continues to support them ...ppl forget...and life moves on

Sure 4 out of 8 of ppl falsely accused of crimes would rather have not spent X amount of days behind bars stuck in limbo because a mugshot or news report compelled witnesses to come forward

It seems like ur beef is ultimately with the media not devoting as much attention to tearing a man down as they do to admitting their errors....thats a different issue

 

[7figz]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser

And there 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they say to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

You saying all that like the shit is perfect now and innocent folks don't go to jail.

No matter the process like I said before some innocent people going to go to jail and some guilty people going to walk free.

I'm just of the opinion that people's faces shouldn't be plastered everywhere when its quite possible they didn't commit the crime.

No system is perfect I just feel folks names and faces shouldn't attached to shit before its proven they done it.

Everybody ain't a good citizen so just because these witnesses favorable to the accused sees his face and can exonerate him doesn't mean they will do so just that because its the right thing to do.

The main point is even with being proven innocent that still doesn't change the fact that said persons face has now been plastered on the news as a possible rapist when that is a crime he was proven to have not done.

You know the news and newspaper don't run stories saying the guy picture we've been showing you all for 2 weeks straight has been proven that he isn't the rapist.

Imagine a father going to pick his child from school how the teachers and parents going to look at him regardless of being proven innocent.

Child will never be able to have friends come over to the house for birthday parties or sleepovers. All because an innocent man face was on the news for some shit he didn't do.

I understand the system is flawed

My point is that what u r proposing makes getting justice exponentially harder ...

And ppl can move ...only a very small percentage of rape cases make the news and an even smaller percentage make the national news

A false rape accusation does not always end in the accused life being ruined beyond repair

See it will celebrities and even average folk

Their families community continues to support them ...ppl forget...and life moves on

Sure 4 out of 8 of ppl falsely accused of crimes would rather have not spent X amount of days behind bars stuck in limbo because a mugshot or news report compelled witnesses to come forward

It seems like ur beef is ultimately with the media not devoting as much attention to tearing a man down as they do to admitting their errors....thats a different issue

How does protecting the accused's identity make getting justice harder ?

 

[D. Morgan]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser

And there 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they say to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

You saying all that like the shit is perfect now and innocent folks don't go to jail.

No matter the process like I said before some innocent people going to go to jail and some guilty people going to walk free.

I'm just of the opinion that people's faces shouldn't be plastered everywhere when its quite possible they didn't commit the crime.

No system is perfect I just feel folks names and faces shouldn't attached to shit before its proven they done it.

Everybody ain't a good citizen so just because these witnesses favorable to the accused sees his face and can exonerate him doesn't mean they will do so just that because its the right thing to do.

The main point is even with being proven innocent that still doesn't change the fact that said persons face has now been plastered on the news as a possible rapist when that is a crime he was proven to have not done.

You know the news and newspaper don't run stories saying the guy picture we've been showing you all for 2 weeks straight has been proven that he isn't the rapist.

Imagine a father going to pick his child from school how the teachers and parents going to look at him regardless of being proven innocent.

Child will never be able to have friends come over to the house for birthday parties or sleepovers. All because an innocent man face was on the news for some shit he didn't do.

I understand the system is flawed

My point is that what u r proposing makes getting justice exponentially harder ...

And ppl can move ...only a very small percentage of rape cases make the news and an even smaller percentage make the national news

A false rape accusation does not always end in the accused life being ruined beyond repair

See it will celebrities and even average folk

Their families community continues to support them ...ppl forget...and life moves on

Sure 4 out of 8 of ppl falsely accused of crimes would rather have not spent X amount of days behind bars stuck in limbo because a mugshot or news report compelled witnesses to come forward

It seems like ur beef is ultimately with the media not devoting as much attention to tearing a man down as they do to admitting their errors....thats a different issue

I disagree with making it harder to a conviction.

You tripping like shit

 

[Westie]

Hummm 4 hours later and STILL NO WOMAN TO ANSWER TO THE MAIN QUESTIONS.

After the smoke clears....

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

Yes they should get punished, and idk what the sentence should be. It should be jail time.

This isn't about avoiding the main subject it's a related topic.

yes the thread did get derailed but the woman cried rape why isn't that a natural deviation from topic? Rape is in the subject.

Yes indeed it derailed.

Please dont disrespect RAPE by using it when it comes to LIARS. She got everything but RAPE.

She just lied about something really bad that can have lethal consequences.

If my sister comes to me and cris rape, it will take me HOURS before i put a critical reflexion on that. Because when a woman gets rape, HER WHOLE FAMILLY GETS RAPE TOO. Hence the usage of rape as a war tactic to EMASCULATE, HUMILIATE THE MEN. One can act up and loud but you are psychologocally BEATEN if someone rape one of the familly's females upfront.

Did that promiscuous woman knew? This has to be investigated.

Did you just make a violation of a woman's body about MEN????

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Yes i did. WE ARE SOCIAL BEINGS and rape consequences goes BEYOND THE WOMAN'S BODY. Hence the thread : a man has killed for it.

KILLED!

Plus MEN GET RAPED TOO!!

Lets not waist our time with trying to genderize rape.

Rape is social

Political

Warfare

You were talking about a woman getting raped, I'm aware men get raped.

Oh yeah, this thread is an example of how empathetic people are to the violation of a woman's body.

HER BODY.

NOT SOCIETY'S

NOT THE GOVERNMENT

NOT ANYONE'S PROPERTY

 

[Westie]

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[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

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PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

Brooklyn threesome killer sobs behind bars over girlfriend’s deceit: ‘I threw my life away for a f---ing lie’

He raced to his lover’s defense, killing a man he thought raped his girlfriend in a three-way tryst — and now he sits in jail fearing she set him up.

A disheveled Christopher Membreno was stunned on Saturday to learn that police believe the ménage à trois in Brooklyn involving his girlfriend and two men was consensual.

“I threw my life away for a f---ing lie? My life is over because of a f---ing lie?” a weeping Membreno asked a Daily News reporter in an exclusive jailhouse interview.

The 24-year-old said he barely remembers what happened early Monday after his girlfriend called him claiming she had been raped in Park Slope.

Man charged in Brooklyn threesome revenge killing

She sounded “distraught, scared,” he said.

Membreno rounded up some friends and they went looking for 20-year-old Manos Ikonomidis.

They found him leaving the apartment where the girlfriend had the steamy threesome.

“I just wanted some f---ing justice,” Membreno said at Rikers Island. “I wanted to hold him until the police got there.”

Man stabbed to death after threesome in Brooklyn turns violent

But cops say Membreno and his posse set upon Ikonomidis with bats and knives, leaving him to die in a pool of blood in the hallway of the building before taking off.

Membreno claims he was high at the time and doesn’t remember many details of the murder.

...

“Did she set me up? I deserve to know the truth,” he told The News.

Membreno said he hasn’t spoken to his girlfriend since being locked up — adding that he hasn’t slept or showered in five days.

“This is my life now,” he said, ripping open his beige jail jumpsuit and grabbing it in his fist. “I can’t do it anymore. I really don’t know what I have to live for.”

...

Membreno, facing murder and criminal possession of a weapon charges, said he harbors no ill will against his girlfriend.

“I still love her even though she set me up,” he said. “I don’t know why I still love her.

“I just want some answers,” he added.

Detectives have not determined whether or not Membreno’s flame will face any charges.

“She has not been charged at this point with anything,” said a high-ranking police source, who noted that charges may never come. “Lying to your boyfriend is not the same as, say, lying to the police.”

 

[Westie]

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PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

Brooklyn threesome killer sobs behind bars over girlfriend’s deceit: ‘I threw my life away for a f---ing lie’

He raced to his lover’s defense, killing a man he thought raped his girlfriend in a three-way tryst — and now he sits in jail fearing she set him up.

A disheveled Christopher Membreno was stunned on Saturday to learn that police believe the ménage à trois in Brooklyn involving his girlfriend and two men was consensual.

“I threw my life away for a f---ing lie? My life is over because of a f---ing lie?” a weeping Membreno asked a Daily News reporter in an exclusive jailhouse interview.

The 24-year-old said he barely remembers what happened early Monday after his girlfriend called him claiming she had been raped in Park Slope.

Man charged in Brooklyn threesome revenge killing

She sounded “distraught, scared,” he said.

Membreno rounded up some friends and they went looking for 20-year-old Manos Ikonomidis.

They found him leaving the apartment where the girlfriend had the steamy threesome.

“I just wanted some f---ing justice,” Membreno said at Rikers Island. “I wanted to hold him until the police got there.”

Man stabbed to death after threesome in Brooklyn turns violent

But cops say Membreno and his posse set upon Ikonomidis with bats and knives, leaving him to die in a pool of blood in the hallway of the building before taking off.

Membreno claims he was high at the time and doesn’t remember many details of the murder.

...

“Did she set me up? I deserve to know the truth,” he told The News.

Membreno said he hasn’t spoken to his girlfriend since being locked up — adding that he hasn’t slept or showered in five days.

“This is my life now,” he said, ripping open his beige jail jumpsuit and grabbing it in his fist. “I can’t do it anymore. I really don’t know what I have to live for.”

...

Membreno, facing murder and criminal possession of a weapon charges, said he harbors no ill will against his girlfriend.

“I still love her even though she set me up,” he said. “I don’t know why I still love her.

“I just want some answers,” he added.

Detectives have not determined whether or not Membreno’s flame will face any charges.

“She has not been charged at this point with anything,” said a high-ranking police source, who noted that charges may never come. “Lying to your boyfriend is not the same as, say, lying to the police.”

That's really sad.

 

[7figz]

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PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

Seriously ?

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

Seriously ?

Do they read threads or just skim thru it? *Hov voice*

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Why not go to all the rape victims within a certain time frame in that city and show them the accused picture in a line up style of photos personally instead plastering an innocent until proven guilty man picture all over the news?

That way while still investigating a person's name and reputation might not actually be ruined if they are found not guilty or during the course of the investigation its found out that said person couldn't have committed that crime.

There is no perfect way to do these things without someone feeling violated and the crime victim has actually already been violated. With that said that still doesn't mean that another person's name and reputation should be ruined either especially when there is a possibility that they could be innocent.

Imagine if accused was mistaken to be someone else by the accuser

And there 3 witnesses out there who can provide testimony to help clear his name....but they no connections or relations with the accused or accuser

What would compell them to report what they say to the police if the identity of the accused was kept anonymous

That's not just me pulling hypotheticals out my ass...but this shit happens all the time

Beyond enforcing and or tinkering with the laws we already have on the books i dont see there being another good solution legally

With the exception of doing things like banning the felony conviction box on job apps

You saying all that like the shit is perfect now and innocent folks don't go to jail.

No matter the process like I said before some innocent people going to go to jail and some guilty people going to walk free.

I'm just of the opinion that people's faces shouldn't be plastered everywhere when its quite possible they didn't commit the crime.

No system is perfect I just feel folks names and faces shouldn't attached to shit before its proven they done it.

Everybody ain't a good citizen so just because these witnesses favorable to the accused sees his face and can exonerate him doesn't mean they will do so just that because its the right thing to do.

The main point is even with being proven innocent that still doesn't change the fact that said persons face has now been plastered on the news as a possible rapist when that is a crime he was proven to have not done.

You know the news and newspaper don't run stories saying the guy picture we've been showing you all for 2 weeks straight has been proven that he isn't the rapist.

Imagine a father going to pick his child from school how the teachers and parents going to look at him regardless of being proven innocent.

Child will never be able to have friends come over to the house for birthday parties or sleepovers. All because an innocent man face was on the news for some shit he didn't do.

I understand the system is flawed

My point is that what u r proposing makes getting justice exponentially harder ...

And ppl can move ...only a very small percentage of rape cases make the news and an even smaller percentage make the national news

A false rape accusation does not always end in the accused life being ruined beyond repair

See it will celebrities and even average folk

Their families community continues to support them ...ppl forget...and life moves on

Sure 4 out of 8 of ppl falsely accused of crimes would rather have not spent X amount of days behind bars stuck in limbo because a mugshot or news report compelled witnesses to come forward

It seems like ur beef is ultimately with the media not devoting as much attention to tearing a man down as they do to admitting their errors....thats a different issue

How does protecting the accused's identity make getting justice harder ?

Read my previous 3, 4 posts

Its pretty straight forward

Rape is a hard crime to prove, especially if no bruises are present

So witness statements are especially valued and can help build a case for or against thw accused

And cases have been won, lost, or dismissed based on the accounts of other victims and witnesses who would have not been compelled to come forward had they not known the identity of the accused

With what he is proposing they could possible learn of the identity of the accused once a conviction is secured, but for the accused who are actually guilty that leaves them free to rape again

When investigators release the name and picture of the accused more times than not its meant to get ppl to come forward based on the facts of the case...its a common and longstanding practice

Witnesses lie sometimes but that is not a good reason to question and or undervalue their importance. And there are ways to verify their stories

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

PAGES

PAGES

PAGES full of multi trajectories debates.

Rape is bad. Rape is a crime. The victim of the rape, male or female, finds it hard to report because of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS, FAMILLY PRESSURE.

Matter of fact how come i report to the police about my Dad, Mum or clause relative having raped me?

That being said IT WASNT THE TOPIC !! The issue is SOMEBODY DIED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED. Then the LIER recognized that she in fact did lie,

YET SHE COMES CLEAN OUT OF IT!

SHE BENEFITS FROM NAME WITNESS PROTECTION TYPE OF SHIT BY HAVING HER NAME UNDISCLOSED!!

SHE WONT GET EVEN AN OFFICIAL WARNING FROM A JUDGE!!

SHE LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED!! AND SOMEBODY DIED!!

SHE GOT THE THRESSOME SHE WANTED, SHE GOT HER EGO SATISFIED BY SEING HER CUCK FRIEND ACT FOR HER, AND AHE COMES CLEAN FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT!

imo SHE DESERVES TO GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING SHITTED ON THE REAL RAPE VICTIMS, MALE AND FEMALES.

SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO REINFORCE BAD STEREOTYPE ABOUT RAPE ACCUSATIONS.

so yall can keep on debating about

Numbers

Statistics

POVs

Yall personal upbringing

As far as im concerned im disgusted by this case. LIERS DESERVE JAIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT DIFFICULT TOPIC, RAPE!!

bonsoir

And shame on any female and male in here who will try to derail the thread from its purpose, which is

LETHAL LIERS DONT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED BUT PROSECUTED and SENTENCED

for whatever reason

Simping

Deranged feminism

Deranged masculinity

Some of yall are heavily biased. The thread isnt far fetched and hard to decipher :

SOMEBODY LIED ABOUT RAPE

IT RESULTED IN MURDER

THE LIER IS FREE AND PROTECTED.

IS IT FUCKED UP OR NAH?

IS LYING ABOUT RAPE THE SOLE MURDEROUS TECHNIQUE THAT WONT PUT YOUR ASS TO JAIL EVEN IF CAUGHT?

its just about that. In this thread.

Like u arent biased lol

You are using THE FOX NEWS / ALL LIVE MATTERS/ I DONT LIKE RAP BUT I LIKE EMINEM / techniques aka you are deplacing the core of the subject bit by bit in order to create a debate atmosphere where you will feel confortable and avoid the MAIN QUESTION THAT THREAD IS ASKING YOU :

SHOULD RAPE LIARS GET PROSECUTED AND SENTENCED?

YES - HOW AND WHAT DO THEY DESERVE?

NO - WHY?

10 pages ago you should have answered WITH THE SAME ENERGY AND ACCURACY YOU HAVE USED AVOID THE MAIN SUBJECT.

I already said multiple times if there is evidence she lied beyond a reasonable doubt she lied she should be charged; Falsely accusing someone of rape is criminal; making a false police report is criminal

I also made the point that there being little to no evidence of rape does not automatically mean a rape didnt occur...

That is a part of the reason her name has not been released is because they are still investigating whether a rape occurred ...and they havent found conclusive evidence she lied

If they ever do i bet charges are coming down the line

That said, with rape or any serious crime, i dont believe the accusers name should be released by the police during the investigation ....the cons outweigh the pros...

I get that the accused would prefer to negotiate the legal system in privacy, they stand to lose a lot

But in practice, this would lead to more rapists escaping justice or more innocent men going to jail

In concerns to the "derailment"of the thread...we don't know all the facts and there is only a limited amount of ways one can only say lying is bad so naturally the discussion deviated a bit...*shrugs*

She lied

The Jakes told her man that they are 100% sure that she was the main actor of a thressome.

A man died

A cuck will go to jail completely devastated

And the LIAR is walking FREE!!

When was this?

Link to the story

Brooklyn threesome killer sobs behind bars over girlfriend’s deceit: ‘I threw my life away for a f---ing lie’

He raced to his lover’s defense, killing a man he thought raped his girlfriend in a three-way tryst — and now he sits in jail fearing she set him up.

A disheveled Christopher Membreno was stunned on Saturday to learn that police believe the ménage à trois in Brooklyn involving his girlfriend and two men was consensual.

“I threw my life away for a f---ing lie? My life is over because of a f---ing lie?” a weeping Membreno asked a Daily News reporter in an exclusive jailhouse interview.

The 24-year-old said he barely remembers what happened early Monday after his girlfriend called him claiming she had been raped in Park Slope.

Man charged in Brooklyn threesome revenge killing

She sounded “distraught, scared,” he said.

Membreno rounded up some friends and they went looking for 20-year-old Manos Ikonomidis.

They found him leaving the apartment where the girlfriend had the steamy threesome.

“I just wanted some f---ing justice,” Membreno said at Rikers Island. “I wanted to hold him until the police got there.”

Man stabbed to death after threesome in Brooklyn turns violent

But cops say Membreno and his posse set upon Ikonomidis with bats and knives, leaving him to die in a pool of blood in the hallway of the building before taking off.

Membreno claims he was high at the time and doesn’t remember many details of the murder.

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“Did she set me up? I deserve to know the truth,” he told The News.

Membreno said he hasn’t spoken to his girlfriend since being locked up — adding that he hasn’t slept or showered in five days.

“This is my life now,” he said, ripping open his beige jail jumpsuit and grabbing it in his fist. “I can’t do it anymore. I really don’t know what I have to live for.”

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Membreno, facing murder and criminal possession of a weapon charges, said he harbors no ill will against his girlfriend.

“I still love her even though she set me up,” he said. “I don’t know why I still love her.

“I just want some answers,” he added.

Detectives have not determined whether or not Membreno’s flame will face any charges.

“She has not been charged at this point with anything,” said a high-ranking police source, who noted that charges may never come. “Lying to your boyfriend is not the same as, say, lying to the police.”

As i said if they have evidence she lied what she did was criminal

And she shouldnt just be able to walk away without facing any legal consequences

Wasnt able to find much on the story beyond the article in the op when i first posted in the thread...will admit i havent made the greatest effort either