Do You Believe In God?

[Rozetta5tone]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

 

[zombie]

You still haven't answered the question. You just avoid it.

If it is so logical then what premises lead to that conclusion?

you asked me what evidence is there that we have power to fix the world and i answered we can reason and the earth provides enough for all of us. The existence of the universe and all of reality if they exist then that means they had to have been created.

If something exists it must have been created. This only makes sense.

So how do you jump from that, to God must have created it?

Because god being the only force that cannot be created and always existed is the most logical answer to the creation of the universe.

Sounds as logical as something coming from nothing. How can something always exist and how can something come from nothing. I don't think we can just settle on an answer like it's that obvious.

God is not A THING.

and like i keep telling people we all choose to believe what we believe We run into problems when my total conviction that the god i know is real smashes up against your conviction that god is not

Both sides cannot convince the other because they both have to use subjective or provable evidence.

I'm not dealing with anything subjective. I'm not making the initial assertion. If you pose an answer, then it is you that must give proof. You have people dedicating their everything to something someone said was actual and i'm not saying if it is or isn't. I'm saying, you're the one that is offering the theory. It's on you. I would never just make something up and say that must be it and you have to believe without trying my hardest to prove it. How can you say God is not a thing but have all these descriptions of what God is, what God planned, and what we should do for God?

The only proof that can be given of anything is subjective because like i tried to tell you we don't even know that we exist or at lest we cannot prove it. The reason why people use descriptions to talk about god is because as limited beings we cannot communicate the unphysical otherwise. If YOU have an understanding in your head but can't use descriptions then you will never tell anyone because you can't. WE can't comprehend what god is. so mankind has always tried to break it god into terms we can try to understand.

So people are just making shit up cuz they confused? Interesting. We don't know we exist but we know God exist. Interesting. I know i'm having this conversation with you and i also know that even if i died. Things will Occur because those things will be in a different state of being when i see it next even if it's not detectable by the human eye. If we don't know we are real, that throws a huge monkey wrench in your conclusion that God is real. There is far less evidence there since it hasn't replied to my post yet.

No people believe what they do based on what they think is real and what they think is real is subjective. What is actually "real" we cannot prove. This goes for things in the universe. We know we exist but we cannot know that we are real do you understand what i mean.

Not really. because what does being real mean exactly? We just discovered in the last few centuries what we are made of. We still don't know what energy is. Bottom line, if we don't know these things, why come with such a broad conclusion? You're saying because we don't know one thing, the other thing must be? How so?

We discovered what we think is real because all things in this physical world that we think exists cannot be proved to exist outside of what we think.

To prove something is real you would have have to prove it's existence without having any experience of it. This is impossible which is why the only thing that can really be proved to exist without doubt is each individuals mind.

however if multiple minds exist which they clearly do then that means they had to come from someplace or something that something can be called god.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

You still haven't answered the question. You just avoid it.

If it is so logical then what premises lead to that conclusion?

you asked me what evidence is there that we have power to fix the world and i answered we can reason and the earth provides enough for all of us. The existence of the universe and all of reality if they exist then that means they had to have been created.

If something exists it must have been created. This only makes sense.

So how do you jump from that, to God must have created it?

Because god being the only force that cannot be created and always existed is the most logical answer to the creation of the universe.

Sounds as logical as something coming from nothing. How can something always exist and how can something come from nothing. I don't think we can just settle on an answer like it's that obvious.

God is not A THING.

and like i keep telling people we all choose to believe what we believe We run into problems when my total conviction that the god i know is real smashes up against your conviction that god is not

Both sides cannot convince the other because they both have to use subjective or provable evidence.

I'm not dealing with anything subjective. I'm not making the initial assertion. If you pose an answer, then it is you that must give proof. You have people dedicating their everything to something someone said was actual and i'm not saying if it is or isn't. I'm saying, you're the one that is offering the theory. It's on you. I would never just make something up and say that must be it and you have to believe without trying my hardest to prove it. How can you say God is not a thing but have all these descriptions of what God is, what God planned, and what we should do for God?

The only proof that can be given of anything is subjective because like i tried to tell you we don't even know that we exist or at lest we cannot prove it. The reason why people use descriptions to talk about god is because as limited beings we cannot communicate the unphysical otherwise. If YOU have an understanding in your head but can't use descriptions then you will never tell anyone because you can't. WE can't comprehend what god is. so mankind has always tried to break it god into terms we can try to understand.

So people are just making shit up cuz they confused? Interesting. We don't know we exist but we know God exist. Interesting. I know i'm having this conversation with you and i also know that even if i died. Things will Occur because those things will be in a different state of being when i see it next even if it's not detectable by the human eye. If we don't know we are real, that throws a huge monkey wrench in your conclusion that God is real. There is far less evidence there since it hasn't replied to my post yet.

No people believe what they do based on what they think is real and what they think is real is subjective. What is actually "real" we cannot prove. This goes for things in the universe. We know we exist but we cannot know that we are real do you understand what i mean.

Not really. because what does being real mean exactly? We just discovered in the last few centuries what we are made of. We still don't know what energy is. Bottom line, if we don't know these things, why come with such a broad conclusion? You're saying because we don't know one thing, the other thing must be? How so?

We discovered what we think is real because all things in this physical world that we think exists cannot be proved to exist outside of what we think.

To prove something is real you would have have to prove it's existence without having any experience of it. This is impossible which is why the only thing that can really be proved to exist without doubt is each individuals mind.

however if multiple minds exist which they clearly do then that means they had to come from someplace or something that something can be called god.

When we see things, we know it to exist yet it may not have a name. We don't say it doesn't exist because we can't identify it. We say it is an unknown object and to we know it further. Just because we see something, that doesn't mean we know it or that it exist at all. There are things called mirages that are called so because light and our mind presented something that isn't tangible even though it's drawn from memory. Explain why blind people may have never had sight can navigate around solid objects. Explain why the cat jumped on the table yet they see things different then us. They seem to have a concept of scale regardless.

 

[zombie]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

 

[Rozetta5tone]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

 

[FatterThanKat]

But you have no evidence. You jumped from the idea that if something exists it must be created to saying that God is that creator. How do you know that it is God and not something else? What makes that view more probable?

because everything else is in the universe and therefore must be a creation.

Yes we already established this. The things in the universe that currently exist need to have some cause for their existence. Why is God more believable than any of the other theories?

occums razor the simplest answer is the one i choose.

Okay, now I think I get where you were going with the subjectivity idea. My next question was to be, well how exactly is God any simpler than say the Alien theory that Scientologists believe, or the Big Bang Theory that Cosmologists adhere to. And this is seemingly exactly where subjective ideas would lead one to believe one is simpler than the other.

Just out of curiosity though, how exactly is an omnipotent being simpler than the idea of Aliens creating humans?

 

[zombie]

You still haven't answered the question. You just avoid it.

If it is so logical then what premises lead to that conclusion?

you asked me what evidence is there that we have power to fix the world and i answered we can reason and the earth provides enough for all of us. The existence of the universe and all of reality if they exist then that means they had to have been created.

If something exists it must have been created. This only makes sense.

So how do you jump from that, to God must have created it?

Because god being the only force that cannot be created and always existed is the most logical answer to the creation of the universe.

Sounds as logical as something coming from nothing. How can something always exist and how can something come from nothing. I don't think we can just settle on an answer like it's that obvious.

God is not A THING.

and like i keep telling people we all choose to believe what we believe We run into problems when my total conviction that the god i know is real smashes up against your conviction that god is not

Both sides cannot convince the other because they both have to use subjective or provable evidence.

I'm not dealing with anything subjective. I'm not making the initial assertion. If you pose an answer, then it is you that must give proof. You have people dedicating their everything to something someone said was actual and i'm not saying if it is or isn't. I'm saying, you're the one that is offering the theory. It's on you. I would never just make something up and say that must be it and you have to believe without trying my hardest to prove it. How can you say God is not a thing but have all these descriptions of what God is, what God planned, and what we should do for God?

The only proof that can be given of anything is subjective because like i tried to tell you we don't even know that we exist or at lest we cannot prove it. The reason why people use descriptions to talk about god is because as limited beings we cannot communicate the unphysical otherwise. If YOU have an understanding in your head but can't use descriptions then you will never tell anyone because you can't. WE can't comprehend what god is. so mankind has always tried to break it god into terms we can try to understand.

So people are just making shit up cuz they confused? Interesting. We don't know we exist but we know God exist. Interesting. I know i'm having this conversation with you and i also know that even if i died. Things will Occur because those things will be in a different state of being when i see it next even if it's not detectable by the human eye. If we don't know we are real, that throws a huge monkey wrench in your conclusion that God is real. There is far less evidence there since it hasn't replied to my post yet.

No people believe what they do based on what they think is real and what they think is real is subjective. What is actually "real" we cannot prove. This goes for things in the universe. We know we exist but we cannot know that we are real do you understand what i mean.

Not really. because what does being real mean exactly? We just discovered in the last few centuries what we are made of. We still don't know what energy is. Bottom line, if we don't know these things, why come with such a broad conclusion? You're saying because we don't know one thing, the other thing must be? How so?

We discovered what we think is real because all things in this physical world that we think exists cannot be proved to exist outside of what we think.

To prove something is real you would have have to prove it's existence without having any experience of it. This is impossible which is why the only thing that can really be proved to exist without doubt is each individuals mind.

however if multiple minds exist which they clearly do then that means they had to come from someplace or something that something can be called god.

When things are left behind and we know it to exist because it is a thing left there yet it has know name. We don't say it doesn't exist becaue we can't identify it. We say it is an unknown object and to we know it further. Just because we see something, that doesn't mean we know it or that it exist at all. There are things called mirages that are called so because light and our mind presented something that isn't tangible. Explain why blind people have never seen can navigate solid objects. Explain why the cat jumped on the table yet they see things different then us.

All things are illusions the first time we encounter something new it might not have a name but still it's just a new illusion.in the sense that it cannot be proved to exist outside of human measurement. Because we cannot prove it's actually there we only thinks it's there. WE HAVE to use our senses to measure and nagivate the world but our senses are just in the brain and the brain is nothing more than a filter for the mind like the video i posted suggests.

blind people can navigate because they have other senses and a cats brain cannot filter the same amount of information that we can so their consciouness is smaller.

 

[zombie]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

You still haven't answered the question. You just avoid it.

If it is so logical then what premises lead to that conclusion?

you asked me what evidence is there that we have power to fix the world and i answered we can reason and the earth provides enough for all of us. The existence of the universe and all of reality if they exist then that means they had to have been created.

If something exists it must have been created. This only makes sense.

So how do you jump from that, to God must have created it?

Because god being the only force that cannot be created and always existed is the most logical answer to the creation of the universe.

Sounds as logical as something coming from nothing. How can something always exist and how can something come from nothing. I don't think we can just settle on an answer like it's that obvious.

God is not A THING.

and like i keep telling people we all choose to believe what we believe We run into problems when my total conviction that the god i know is real smashes up against your conviction that god is not

Both sides cannot convince the other because they both have to use subjective or provable evidence.

I'm not dealing with anything subjective. I'm not making the initial assertion. If you pose an answer, then it is you that must give proof. You have people dedicating their everything to something someone said was actual and i'm not saying if it is or isn't. I'm saying, you're the one that is offering the theory. It's on you. I would never just make something up and say that must be it and you have to believe without trying my hardest to prove it. How can you say God is not a thing but have all these descriptions of what God is, what God planned, and what we should do for God?

The only proof that can be given of anything is subjective because like i tried to tell you we don't even know that we exist or at lest we cannot prove it. The reason why people use descriptions to talk about god is because as limited beings we cannot communicate the unphysical otherwise. If YOU have an understanding in your head but can't use descriptions then you will never tell anyone because you can't. WE can't comprehend what god is. so mankind has always tried to break it god into terms we can try to understand.

So people are just making shit up cuz they confused? Interesting. We don't know we exist but we know God exist. Interesting. I know i'm having this conversation with you and i also know that even if i died. Things will Occur because those things will be in a different state of being when i see it next even if it's not detectable by the human eye. If we don't know we are real, that throws a huge monkey wrench in your conclusion that God is real. There is far less evidence there since it hasn't replied to my post yet.

No people believe what they do based on what they think is real and what they think is real is subjective. What is actually "real" we cannot prove. This goes for things in the universe. We know we exist but we cannot know that we are real do you understand what i mean.

Not really. because what does being real mean exactly? We just discovered in the last few centuries what we are made of. We still don't know what energy is. Bottom line, if we don't know these things, why come with such a broad conclusion? You're saying because we don't know one thing, the other thing must be? How so?

We discovered what we think is real because all things in this physical world that we think exists cannot be proved to exist outside of what we think.

To prove something is real you would have have to prove it's existence without having any experience of it. This is impossible which is why the only thing that can really be proved to exist without doubt is each individuals mind.

however if multiple minds exist which they clearly do then that means they had to come from someplace or something that something can be called god.

When things are left behind and we know it to exist because it is a thing left there yet it has know name. We don't say it doesn't exist becaue we can't identify it. We say it is an unknown object and to we know it further. Just because we see something, that doesn't mean we know it or that it exist at all. There are things called mirages that are called so because light and our mind presented something that isn't tangible. Explain why blind people have never seen can navigate solid objects. Explain why the cat jumped on the table yet they see things different then us.

All things are illusions the first time we encounter something new it might not have a name but still it's just a new illusion.in the sense that it cannot be proved to exist outside of human measurement. Because we cannot prove it's actually there we only thinks it's there. WE HAVE to use our senses to measure and nagivate the world but our senses are just in the brain and the brain is nothing more than a filter for the mind like the video i posted suggests.

blind people can navigate because they have other senses and a cats brain cannot filter the same amount of information that we can so their consciouness is smaller.

My point was that they interact with the same objects yet they obviously don't share our concepts. It is our density that keeps us from penetrating objects and we know that smaller organisms don't have such an issue because they are small enough to get inbetween our visually solid skin. It is interacting regardless without us noticing. That will not keep us from getting sick or dying. It still impacts what it interacts with on a small or grand scale and can be measured if not by us, by the mathematical proportions that govern such objects.

 

[Rozetta5tone]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

nigga please

 

[VIBE]

It would be pretty bad ass that we end up finding out aliens from another universe created our universe and everything in it.

Scientists have thought about creating small universes in a lab, and if this curiosity is here right now, who's to say we can never create one in the future?

 

[zombie]

But you have no evidence. You jumped from the idea that if something exists it must be created to saying that God is that creator. How do you know that it is God and not something else? What makes that view more probable?

because everything else is in the universe and therefore must be a creation.

Yes we already established this. The things in the universe that currently exist need to have some cause for their existence. Why is God more believable than any of the other theories?

occums razor the simplest answer is the one i choose.

Okay, now I think I get where you were going with the subjectivity idea. My next question was to be, well how exactly is God any simpler than say the Alien theory that Scientologists believe, or the Big Bang Theory that Cosmologists adhere to. And this is seemingly exactly where subjective ideas would lead one to believe one is simpler than the other.

Just out of curiosity though, how exactly is an omnipotent being simpler than the idea of Aliens creating humans?

Because for there to be aliens or any kind of life there has to be a universe first. Planets have to form and there must be solid matter and a whole long list of things have to happen. just for there to be one aliens as far as i know scientologist believe in many aliens races and the big bang is even more complex than a planet forming.

an omnipotent being does not have to be vastly complex things HAPPEN the way god wants them to because he wills it that is it how it happens is another issue.

 

[zombie]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

nigga please

nigga i answered your fucking dumbass question if you don't like it go fuck your mother and when your done go fuck your faggot father batty man

 

[Rozetta5tone]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

nigga please

nigga i answered your fucking dumbass question if you don't like it go fuck your mother and when your done go fuck your faggot father batty man

you follow God yet speak with the tongue of Lucifer.

That's wassup bro

 

[zombie]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

nigga please

nigga i answered your fucking dumbass question if you don't like it go fuck your mother and when your done go fuck your faggot father batty man

you follow God yet speak with the tongue of Lucifer.

That's wassup bro

I follow god but i am not perfect so i'll break your fucking jaw if you spoke to me like that in real life.

Then pray and hope god forgives me Now fuck off i am finished with you.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

 

[damobb2deep]

But you have no evidence. You jumped from the idea that if something exists it must be created to saying that God is that creator. How do you know that it is God and not something else? What makes that view more probable?

because everything else is in the universe and therefore must be a creation.

Or it could have created itself like the ability of your God to just exist..

where does it say god created himself...

Um, you said God always but the same principles can be applied to the Universe or not. Doesn't dismiss everything else i said about coming to grand conclusions. What's your proof that God always was and the Universe wasn't or doesn't exist within a cycle or in multitudes? Basically, just saying it is doesn't make it so. I'm speaking on mans conceptualization of this deity btw.

where does it say god always was?

In this very forum from statements made. What is your angle? Maybe it says it in your holy book, maybe not. Who gives a fuck? We are arguing the concept. What's yours?

i said "it" as in the bible.. also how can u argue a thought when u dont kno the opposite side.. jus from the few posts i read u seem more aggy then objective.. thats why i asked those questions because u are assuming some things are in the bible that you dont kno if they are actually there or not..

Objective? Really. People making statements that God exist with no evidence. I don't need your bible to get statements that people are making. I don't recall passages but I've seen plenty asserting to either concept of God. What is there to be Objective about when I'm not making any grand statements that something specific created the universe? You need your bible to argue these concepts? I'm sure you can do a good job presenting the evidence from your book. Looks like no one else has. Like i said, people on this board have made these grand statements and many don't follow the bible. Your book is flawed from it's inception and these grand statements have penetrated society and it's been shown that there isn't even proper translation of your book in the first place. I needed to read your Bible to get that info?

tryna prove that the bible is flawed is not a hard task given the fact that it was made from plenty of different books.. from different times.. some books were omitted.. ( even to this day some bibles omit "songs of Solomon ") and thru the years and thru translations of course it will be hard 2 have it in its original form.. Christians know this.. but that does not change the fact that the root beliefs have not changed and are biblically and historically facts. jesus did walk the earth. he was believed to be the son of god. he died on the cross and he believed that he was dying for our sins.. everything else honestly don't matter...

but about the "god exists with no evidence" that's actually subjective because what can be evidence to me might not be evidence for you.. I can go off the facts that the laws of physics are not absolute proves that god exists.. somebody else could say the fact that we can learn teach and wonder outside of basic instincts proves god exists.. somebody else could have gone thru a personal situation in they life that proved to them that god exists.. "miracles" happen all the time..

 

[Rozetta5tone]

Without the idea of Lucifer, none of you devout followers of God would know God.

Maybe your God is the biggie of the universe and without the only relevant God, your God wouldn't exist.

If Tupac were the one true God tho.

God was known before the devil. Read genesis 1 and 2.

The devil showed up after God had already established relationships with our first parents Adam and Eve. Amen.

Nah nigga. God was nobody but the landlord until Lucifer woke their asses up.

Niggas don't respect God like they respect Lucifer. If they did, the tree of knowledge would never have been touched.

Face it bro. Everything you believe in is based on a nigga that is second place in everything he does.

God didn't save you. You're natural sense of self preservation did. YOU got tired of the drugs and alcohol. God just so happened to be your outlet. Ummm your crutch.

Drop that crutch and enlighten yourself.

they did not eat that apple because they respected lucifer they ate it because they wanted to eat it. All lucifer did was TELL them the half truth of what would happen as a result of them eating it

Yet you call yourself zombie.

Last time I checked, a zombie was the living dead. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lucifer say "you shall not surely die?"

So ummm aren't you an example of what Lucifer was talking about?

You are for God but underneath it all, you are one with Lucifer.

I could be wrong tho.

I call myself zombie because when a zombie bites you you become a zombie i want people to think the way i do so i try to convince them. Get it. That's the explanation for my name now but i just picked this name at random ONE Night after watching night of the living dead.

nigga please

nigga i answered your fucking dumbass question if you don't like it go fuck your mother and when your done go fuck your faggot father batty man

you follow God yet speak with the tongue of Lucifer.

That's wassup bro

I follow god but i am not perfect so i'll break your fucking jaw if you spoke to me like that in real life.

Then pray and hope god forgives me Now fuck off i am finished with you.

you'd prolly be asking me for a job if you saw me in person.

I wouldn't hire you tho bcuz you seem like a flake. I only have dependable guys on payroll.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

But you have no evidence. You jumped from the idea that if something exists it must be created to saying that God is that creator. How do you know that it is God and not something else? What makes that view more probable?

because everything else is in the universe and therefore must be a creation.

Or it could have created itself like the ability of your God to just exist..

where does it say god created himself...

Um, you said God always but the same principles can be applied to the Universe or not. Doesn't dismiss everything else i said about coming to grand conclusions. What's your proof that God always was and the Universe wasn't or doesn't exist within a cycle or in multitudes? Basically, just saying it is doesn't make it so. I'm speaking on mans conceptualization of this deity btw.

where does it say god always was?

In this very forum from statements made. What is your angle? Maybe it says it in your holy book, maybe not. Who gives a fuck? We are arguing the concept. What's yours?

i said "it" as in the bible.. also how can u argue a thought when u dont kno the opposite side.. jus from the few posts i read u seem more aggy then objective.. thats why i asked those questions because u are assuming some things are in the bible that you dont kno if they are actually there or not..

Objective? Really. People making statements that God exist with no evidence. I don't need your bible to get statements that people are making. I don't recall passages but I've seen plenty asserting to either concept of God. What is there to be Objective about when I'm not making any grand statements that something specific created the universe? You need your bible to argue these concepts? I'm sure you can do a good job presenting the evidence from your book. Looks like no one else has. Like i said, people on this board have made these grand statements and many don't follow the bible. Your book is flawed from it's inception and these grand statements have penetrated society and it's been shown that there isn't even proper translation of your book in the first place. I needed to read your Bible to get that info?

tryna prove that the bible is flawed is not a hard task given the fact that it was made from plenty of different books.. from different times.. some books were omitted.. ( even to this day some bibles omit "songs of Solomon ") and thru the years and thru translations of course it will be hard 2 have it in its original form.. Christians know this.. but that does not change the fact that the root beliefs have not changed and are biblically and historically facts. jesus did walk the earth. he was believed to be the son of god. he died on the cross and he believed that he was dying for our sins.. everything else honestly don't matter...

but about the "god exists with no evidence" that's actually subjective because what can be evidence to me might not be evidence for you.. I can go off the facts that the laws of physics are not absolute proves that god exists.. somebody else could say the fact that we can learn teach and wonder outside of basic instincts proves god exists.. somebody else could have gone thru a personal situation in they life that proved to them that god exists.. "miracles" happen all the time..

Christians know their book is flawed yet they believe regardless everything in it? Wait know they don't most cherry pick and mistranslates the mistranslations which is the reason for the numerous denomination and the denial that Catholics are Christians at all. It the same for every religion though. There may be competing theories in science, but non is considered absolute because new evidence may broaden the scope and change course. Evidence that i can't tangibly prove using the scientific methods that your provided isn't proper evidence. Are you telling me that there is reproducible evidence outside of people's delusions and unproven statements or evidence derived for a different approach to the same issue proves God?

Tesla and Edison both discovered various means of using electricity but applied in differently. Only Edison succeeded financially because he was able to villianize the other. Tesla was proven to be more astute because his discoveries provided more far reaching tangible benefits. The thing is, we actually use scientific discoveries to adapt more advanced tools to deal with our world. This is why i don't require direct hands on knowledge of most discoveries. People don't care anyway until it creates a product or cure which is the ultimate proof of concept. The more we learn about space and it's origins, the more we can prevent or detect any potential cataclysmic event that will affect us. It is always a race against time because we really don't know, but should we not have sent that prob to a comet to find out how they function? Does it have no benefit? It increases our survival potential but it seems most religious people are only concerned about the afterlife anyway. Learning about gravity allowed us to create skyscrapers. No you can't just say if we don't have a complete working of a theory, it has to be the other thing. It doesn't work that way. The other thing has to meet the same burden of proof.

 

[damobb2deep]

But you have no evidence. You jumped from the idea that if something exists it must be created to saying that God is that creator. How do you know that it is God and not something else? What makes that view more probable?

because everything else is in the universe and therefore must be a creation.

Or it could have created itself like the ability of your God to just exist..

where does it say god created himself...

Um, you said God always but the same principles can be applied to the Universe or not. Doesn't dismiss everything else i said about coming to grand conclusions. What's your proof that God always was and the Universe wasn't or doesn't exist within a cycle or in multitudes? Basically, just saying it is doesn't make it so. I'm speaking on mans conceptualization of this deity btw.

where does it say god always was?

In this very forum from statements made. What is your angle? Maybe it says it in your holy book, maybe not. Who gives a fuck? We are arguing the concept. What's yours?

i said "it" as in the bible.. also how can u argue a thought when u dont kno the opposite side.. jus from the few posts i read u seem more aggy then objective.. thats why i asked those questions because u are assuming some things are in the bible that you dont kno if they are actually there or not..

Objective? Really. People making statements that God exist with no evidence. I don't need your bible to get statements that people are making. I don't recall passages but I've seen plenty asserting to either concept of God. What is there to be Objective about when I'm not making any grand statements that something specific created the universe? You need your bible to argue these concepts? I'm sure you can do a good job presenting the evidence from your book. Looks like no one else has. Like i said, people on this board have made these grand statements and many don't follow the bible. Your book is flawed from it's inception and these grand statements have penetrated society and it's been shown that there isn't even proper translation of your book in the first place. I needed to read your Bible to get that info?

tryna prove that the bible is flawed is not a hard task given the fact that it was made from plenty of different books.. from different times.. some books were omitted.. ( even to this day some bibles omit "songs of Solomon ") and thru the years and thru translations of course it will be hard 2 have it in its original form.. Christians know this.. but that does not change the fact that the root beliefs have not changed and are biblically and historically facts. jesus did walk the earth. he was believed to be the son of god. he died on the cross and he believed that he was dying for our sins.. everything else honestly don't matter...

but about the "god exists with no evidence" that's actually subjective because what can be evidence to me might not be evidence for you.. I can go off the facts that the laws of physics are not absolute proves that god exists.. somebody else could say the fact that we can learn teach and wonder outside of basic instincts proves god exists.. somebody else could have gone thru a personal situation in they life that proved to them that god exists.. "miracles" happen all the time..

Christians know their book is flawed yet they believe regardless everything in it? Wait know they don't most cherry pick and mistranslates the mistranslations which is the reason for the numerous denomination and the denial that Catholics are Christians at all. It the same for every religion though. There may be competing theories in science, but non is considered absolute because new evidence may broaden the scope and change course. Evidence that i can't tangibly prove using the scientific methods that your provided isn't proper evidence. Are you telling me that there is reproducible evidence outside of people's delusions and unproven statements or evidence derived for a different approach to the same issue proves God? Tesla and Edison both discovered various means of using electricity but applied in differently. Only Edison succeeded financially because he was able to villianize the other. Tesla was proven to be more astute because his discoveries provided more far reaching tangible benefits. The thing is, we actually use scientific discoveries to adapt more advanced tools to deal with our world. This is why i don't require direct hands on knowledge of most discoveries. People don't care anyway until it creates a product or cure which is the ultimate proof of concept. Learning about gravity allowed us to create skyscrapers. No you can't just say if we don't have a complete working of a theory, it has to be the other thing. It doesn't work that way. The other thing has to meet the same burden of proof.

lol that's long ass titian graph you jus wrote jus proved my point... that's all subjective.. I gave examples of things that people can say " proved" to them god exists and you proves nothing.. you cant change a persons true beliefs.. only they can..