damobb2deep;6705871 said:
FuriousOne;6705691 said:
damobb2deep;6705635 said:
yes you can believe in something with out "facts".. you and I both do it..
That's a bit of a grand belief isn't it? I don't believe anything to be so finite without knowing that to be the case without cryptic case studies based on rhetoric and suspect supernatural conclusions tacked onto historical facts. There are too many possibilities and none have been ultimately proven. People give they all for something that can't be proven and tell me i can't disprove what they believe yet tell me in the same breath that i better believe too cuz they know I'm gonna suffer. That's contradictory. You can't tell me what to believe either. People front like they came up with the theory on their own as if others didn't convince them to believe using the fear of the unknown. Bottom line is, if i can't know what's in your head, i can't know what's in the head of the people that wrote the bible either. Your taking a leap of faith based on another mans word. It's more then hopping though, you changing your entire lifestyle based on what's in another mans head but the ultimate presentation of what that man claims has never been proven. You can't compare that to science which only observes what others can easily observe. You jump off a bridge, that's gravity. Hope the preacher don't ask you to jump on faith.
thats the thing you are doing alot of assuming yo self.. lots of people are not "changing" they lifestyle off another.. like i said you may not believe but there are more reasons why people believe then u an i will ever kno.. plus u are trying 2 use "logic" on something that is not ment 2 be totally logical... also as a Christian i dont push my beliefs on another person.. never have.. it seems 2 me you have more of a disdain 4 them as people.. I cant make you believe in god frankly idgaf if u do or don't.. my thing is tolerance on both sides and seeing both sides because the both have flaws.. truthfuly there is nothing that's says both cant work hand in hand (givin the fact that the origin of science comes from religion)
So your assuming that a lot of people are not changing their life styles based on this Book? SO how many are? two? If you call yourself a Christian, then you are by proxy not coming to conclusions or believe in certain things by independent method. You are part of the group think that considers themselves by a name based on certain principles that you yourself did not create. You also didn't do the math on why and how this is so; you just said it must be so. Not good enough for me. You just filled in the blanks based on text presented by your parents or whom ever you decided to believe on faith. That's really dangerous and this sort of thinking is how despots get followers. People on this very board just said that believing in God is a logical conclusions yet you say i can't use logic.
More contradictions. Science did not come from religion, the scientific method was the result of religious hypocrisy and clerics claiming powers based on their position in a church with noting supporting them other then hearsay. Men have been seeking knowledge since the first person thought of the concept of God. Acquiring the ability to make fire was a scientific investigation and the results was the production of fire with no need for natural causes. Scientific discoveries are also found when groups share and investigate knowledge and large gatherings can produce greater results which is why scientific discoveries come out of civilizations rather then small enclaves. There is more to figure out to support larger groups. Stop playing the victim card. I have a disdain for people attempting to play on the ignorance of others to support their erroneous claims.
