Discovered on a faded scrap of papyrus, the words "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'"

[MARIO_DRO]

YALL DO KNOW THAT THE CHURCH IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST RIGHT?

... IT WOULD LITERALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND SPIRITUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO BE HAVING SEX.. IF HE WAS, THE WHOLE BIBLE, CHRISTIANANITY, ECT WOULD BE A LIE

ever heard of symbolism?

this is an example why people shouldnt take every word in the bible literally....

OF COURSE I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY..THEY'RE CALLED PARABLES....

LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY WIFE/BRIDE THAT JESUS HAS IS THE CHURCH..

IF JESUS HAD SEX.. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT GOD HAD SEX

THAT WOULD MEAN THAT JESUS LUST AND IS A CHILD MOLESTOR....

THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT JESUS SINS...

How would that mean he's a "child molester"?

Also, how is it a "sin" if he is married?

JESUS AND GOD ARE 1 IN THE TRINITY...WE ARE CHILDREN OF HIM...

THE SIN PLAYS INTO THE LUST ASPECT... HE HAD TO BE FELLING AND WANTING THE LADY TO MARRY HER.

THERE WOULD BE ZERO SPRITITUAL OR LOGICAL REASON FOR JESUS TO MARRY AND IM SURE HE WOULD HAVE HAD A CHILD ALSO...

 

[King Erauno]

Pics of Jesus wife or it didnt happen

 

[Dupac]

ephesians 5:25 said Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church,

so maybe he was talking about the church....anyways... this is R&R

 

[HafBayked]

dro was raised by his granny

but he calls her mama

 

[Matt-]

nobody believes the Bible when it says Jesus is married to the church

but some random note turns up about Jesus' bride and everyone believes he was getting it in?

 

[HafBayked]

fuck the note, i been hearing that shit for years.....i got a problem with a lot of shit in the church and thats why i dont go now....

 

[Matt-]

It's pretty interesting. Jesus never referred to himself as being God or the unique son of God or God in the flesh. Other people promoted that mostly, most notably Paul, who didn't even actually know Jesus. And the only Gospel that really goes out of it's way to portray Jesus as divine was John, and that particular book was the last of the Gospels written and was clearly in response to the debate over whether Jesus was divine or not.

do you even know what you are talking about?

John 10

30 I and the Father are one.”

32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

 

[MARIO_DRO]

dro was raised by his granny

but he calls her mama

DAM.. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?

 

[MARIO_DRO]

fuck the note, i been hearing that shit for years.....i got a problem with a lot of shit in the church and thats why i dont go now....

IM SURE YOU ALSO HAVE ALOTTA PROBLEM WITH THINGS THAT GO ON AT YOUR JOB, BUT U STILL GO ANYWAY..

DO LET WHAT PEOPLE DO TURN YOU AWAY FROM GOD...

THE CHURCH ISNT PERFECT, BUT U SHOULD STRIVE FOR ETERNAL LIFE

 

[Bodhi]

THE CHURCH ISNT PERFECT

shouldn't it be? It's God's "house" right?

 

[HafBayked]

fuck the note, i been hearing that shit for years.....i got a problem with a lot of shit in the church and thats why i dont go now....

IM SURE YOU ALSO HAVE ALOTTA PROBLEM WITH THINGS THAT GO ON AT YOUR JOB, BUT U STILL GO ANYWAY..

DO LET WHAT PEOPLE DO TURN YOU AWAY FROM GOD...

THE CHURCH ISNT PERFECT, BUT U SHOULD STRIVE FOR ETERNAL LIFE

i still read the bible somewhat and take what i can from it...i also pray....but the whole church thing is just a big game to me...i hate i feel that way but i've seen too much funny shit in the church mane...shit is basically just business....a damn good business i must say...

 

[VIBE]

It's pretty interesting. Jesus never referred to himself as being God or the unique son of God or God in the flesh. Other people promoted that mostly, most notably Paul, who didn't even actually know Jesus. And the only Gospel that really goes out of it's way to portray Jesus as divine was John, and that particular book was the last of the Gospels written and was clearly in response to the debate over whether Jesus was divine or not.

do you even know what you are talking about?

John 10

30 I and the Father are one.”

32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

Doesn't say Jesus IS god though.

 

[alissowack]

Maybe it just me, but I just notice something. Whenever the argument for Jesus's existence comes up, it is about disproving that he ever did exist in respect to the Bible...or that the stories are parallel to other previously written documents about the Jesus's story. But, when something like this comes up we know where exactly where to look.

The guy does caution that it may not be in regards to the historical Jesus but sometimes we just can't resist taking it there especially when the "Christian" seems to be exposing themselves moment by moment.

 

[Matt-]

It's pretty interesting. Jesus never referred to himself as being God or the unique son of God or God in the flesh. Other people promoted that mostly, most notably Paul, who didn't even actually know Jesus. And the only Gospel that really goes out of it's way to portray Jesus as divine was John, and that particular book was the last of the Gospels written and was clearly in response to the debate over whether Jesus was divine or not.

do you even know what you are talking about?

John 10

30 I and the Father are one.”

32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

Doesn't say Jesus IS god though.

"i and the father are one" meaning we are the same. meaning i am god

 

[MARIO_DRO]

THE CHURCH ISNT PERFECT

shouldn't it be? It's God's "house" right?

OF COURSE NOT!

HUMANS ARE IN THERE...NO HUMAN IS PERFECT

THATS LIKE SAYIN EVERYONE IN THE HOSPITAL SHOULD BE WELL...

WHEN U SUFFER FROM SIN, YOU GO TO CHURCH TO GET BETTER..

 

[Jack_Riches]

first of all, the Bible is a reliable collection of historical documents written in 3 diff languages(Hebrew,Aramiacnd Greek) on 3 diff continents(Africa,Asia,nd Europe) written over a period of 1500 yrs, by over 40 diff authors(eye witnesses mind u) whom most have never met one another. Jesus is in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. I say that to say this, what we have already known as The Bible is the finished product. No man can add or take away from what is in those pages. Let ur logic wrap around that fact.

 

[Jack_Riches]

and before someone says all the translations lost the true message of the Bible..no. Wrong again. You would have to go back to the original Hebrew,Aramaic,Greek manuscripts to translate. from that they were translated to Syriac,Coptic and Latin. If The Bible was "forged" or "re-written" that means you would have to change the original manuscripts to match the changes you made in the Syriac Coptic nd Latin translations. lol come on bro. lets get serious here

 

[Bodhi]

THE CHURCH ISNT PERFECT

shouldn't it be? It's God's "house" right?

OF COURSE NOT!

HUMANS ARE IN THERE...NO HUMAN IS PERFECT

Humans were supposedly created by god, a perfect being, correct?

A perfect being cannot create an imperfect being or an imperfect world

 

[Bodhi]

first of all, the Bible is a reliable collection of historical documents written in 3 diff languages(Hebrew,Aramiacnd Greek) on 3 diff continents(Africa,Asia,nd Europe) written over a period of 1500 yrs, by over 40 diff authors(eye witnesses mind u) whom most have never met one another. Jesus is in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. I say that to say this, what we have already known as The Bible is the finished product. No man can add or take away from what is in those pages. Let ur logic wrap around that fact.

First of all, you don't even know who the authors of the bible were, so to say that it is wholly reliable is a bit of a "leap". Some of them were not eye witnesses and some of them contradict each other; for instance:

MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

Secondly, the church created the bible, not the other way around. The church chose what Christian literature would go in and what would not be included in the "finished product"

No man can add or take away from what is in those pages. Let ur logic wrap around that fact.

Is that what god said, or is that what man said?

Paul, for example, is an admitted liar and throughout the Bible, expresses his own opinions and puts forth his own law:

1 Corinthians 7:12: But to the rest speak I, not the Lord

1 Corinthians 7:25: Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.

2 Corinthians 8:10: And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago.

Dueteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

2 Corinthians 12:16 Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery!

1 Corinthians 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

 

[Bodhi]

You would have to go back to the original Hebrew,Aramaic,Greek manuscripts to translate. from that they were translated to Syriac,Coptic and Latin. If The Bible was "forged" or "re-written" that means you would have to change the original manuscripts to match the changes you made in the Syriac Coptic nd Latin translations.

This doesn't make any sense. There are certain words from one language that are not easy to translate into another; some languages do not have a word that would equal the word coming from the first language. For example, some foreign languages have words in which we do not have an English word for. On top of that, keep in mind that puncuation marks can change meanings dramatically: "I'm going to eat, grandma".."I'm going to eat grandma". Clearly, the addition or removal of the comma changes the meaning of the sentence.