Dirty Dave Meltzer says Rey Mysterio was a bigger draw than Undertaker

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Taker was a bigger draw the less and less he wrestled during his latter years, but I would challenge Daves logic and guarantee I could beat his Japan bootlicking ass too in it.

This nigga didnt give HBK vs Taker at WM 25 a classic 5 stars right? Fuck his life.
 
I believe it. I've never liked Rey and was a Taker fan but when was the last time you saw peeps on TV sporting Taker merch?

You saw damn near every kid in arenas in Mysterio masks even after he peaked. Dude was a real life superhero to them while Taker barely registered with anyone who wasn't an older head.
 
Broddie;9051760 said:
I believe it. I've never liked Rey and was a Taker fan but when was the last time you saw peeps on TV sporting Taker merch?

You saw damn near every kid in arenas in Mysterio masks even after he peaked. Dude was a real life superhero to them while Taker barely registered with anyone who wasn't an older head.

Not since 2009
 
Joker_De_La_Muerta;9052180 said:
Broddie;9051760 said:
I believe it. I've never liked Rey and was a Taker fan but when was the last time you saw peeps on TV sporting Taker merch?

You saw damn near every kid in arenas in Mysterio masks even after he peaked. Dude was a real life superhero to them while Taker barely registered with anyone who wasn't an older head.

Not since 2009

I took a decade off from watching this product. When I came back in 2012 he was still one of their top merch sellers. They even put Sin Cara with him to see if the same effect will rub off on his merchandise sales.
 
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Broddie;9051760 said:
I believe it. I've never liked Rey and was a Taker fan but when was the last time you saw peeps on TV sporting Taker merch?

You saw damn near every kid in arenas in Mysterio masks even after he peaked. Dude was a real life superhero to them while Taker barely registered with anyone who wasn't an older head.

A huge portion of wrestling fans are Mexican which is why there are more Hispanic champs and stuff. I can see why he sells out shows.
 
60,000-100,000 people didnt come to wrestlemania to see mysterio do the 619. taker's streak has been wrestlemania's main selling point for well over a decade. is that not drawing?

and of course mysterio sold more merchandise than taker. fans mostly buy what they see on tv. taker hasnt worn his t-shirts to the ring in 13 years, if he even had a t-shirt since the biker gimmick ended
 
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Drawing money for one event doesn't compare to drawing for multiple events. The people who bought Mysterio's merchandise came to see him. So he drew at both merchadising and the box office which makes it believable that he outdrew Taker in the long run.
 
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I think there are mutliple ways to perceive who a draw is. If it was in relation to merchandise i believe Rey but box office...not buying Rey was a bigger box office draw.
 
Broddie;9052671 said:
Drawing money for one event doesn't compare to drawing for multiple events. The people who bought Mysterio's merchandise came to see him. So he drew at both merchadising and the box office which makes it believable that he outdrew Taker in the long run.

how about drawing money for thousands of events in the last 25 years?
 
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Already Home_17;9052812 said:
Broddie;9052671 said:
Drawing money for one event doesn't compare to drawing for multiple events. The people who bought Mysterio's merchandise came to see him. So he drew at both merchadising and the box office which makes it believable that he outdrew Taker in the long run.

how about drawing money for thousands of events in the last 25 years?

True but Taker has only become the draw he is today for about 10 of those years. Specifically since Ruthless Aggression till now. During the old days and attitude era he was outdrawn by others like Hogan and Savage, Michaels and Razor and Rock and Austin.
 
Once the streak was made kayfabe is when Taker became a real draw. Prior to that he wasn't moving tickets like that.
 
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Also Meltzer has had sources with this kinda info since before Taker even went to WWF. So I give him the benefit of the doubt. He has pretty much tracked Taker's entire career there.
 
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Broddie;9052851 said:
Already Home_17;9052812 said:
Broddie;9052671 said:
Drawing money for one event doesn't compare to drawing for multiple events. The people who bought Mysterio's merchandise came to see him. So he drew at both merchadising and the box office which makes it believable that he outdrew Taker in the long run.

how about drawing money for thousands of events in the last 25 years?

True but Taker has only become the draw he is today for about 10 of those years. Specifically since Ruthless Aggression till now. During the old days and attitude era he was outdrawn by others like Hogan and Savage, Michaels and Razor and Rock and Austin.

yes he was outdrawn by those wrestlers. doesnt mean he wasnt a draw himself. he was always one of the most popular wrestlers on the roster. people came to the event to see him, therefore he's a draw. dude was a star way before the attitude era. stop with the disrespect

Broddie;9052853 said:
Also Meltzer has had sources with this kinda info since before Taker even went to WWF. So I give him the benefit of the doubt. He has pretty much tracked Taker's entire career there.

i'll let @jono handle this
 

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