Why do people act like HBK drew money??

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Paul Hate.;5516831 said:
TRILLip Brooks;5515251 said:
Outside of Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Rock, Austin and Cena, who did?

^sting,goldberg,jericho??

Sting drew based on the power of the nWo. Without that lengthy feud he wasn't the man like that. In fact Sting was the face of WCW and got bumped by Hogan, returned and then got bumped again by Goldberg....

Speaking of Goldberg he was indeed a big star for WCW. No doubt about it.

Jericho was never a draw anywhere he performed, highly entertaining but nowhere near HBK as a PPV or live attraction. The fact you even brought him up is askew in my opinion.

There are 5 big time draws in modern wrestling:

Hogan, Savage, Flair (questionable), Austin & Rock everyone else is at best a moderate draw (HBK, Bret, Nash, Sting, Luger, Angle etc).
 
*Cena is more recent and is the biggest draw of recent wrestlers. Jeff Hardy, Brock Lesnar & Randy Orton are also on that list.

Jeff could have surpassed Cena in my opinion if he had decided to stay around.
 
The ROck and Austin have the biggest WM and PPv's of all time..let's not talk about Merchandise.Austin technically speaking made more dollars for the WWF than Hogan but obviously Hogan was in a different era less tv and ppv's and licsenced merchandise.

Jericho sold merchandise than a motherfucker and he was involved in some very succesful PPv's.

 
Over=someone who is popular and credible with a particular promotions fan base.

(Christopher Daniels,Koffi Kingston,Kane,etc).

Brand Name =Someone who is generally well known and popular among wrestling fan's in general regardless of promotion.

(Rvd,Samoa Joe,Angle,Raven,Scott Hall,etc).

Draw=someone who sells merchandise,tickets, and has a positive effect on ratings off name and appearance alone.

Wrestling has plenty of draws.

(flair,Bret,Sting,Cena,etc turf)

Superstar=someone who crosses over into mainstream media and entertainment success.Someone who can transfer over to non wrestling fans.

Wresting has few true Superstars(austin,Rock,Hogan,Piper,Macho,Andre,turf).
 
not being on the level of a hogan, flair, sting, scsa, or rock shouldnt really be a knock against a legend because those names are in a class of their own, according to u, wrestling has plenty of draws, and im sure hbk was one so ion think u can really knock a hbk, or a jericho, or a mysterio, at least they drew something and werent failures as champs like a jack swagger or diesel, look at that roster hbk was competing with, u really think Connecticut Blue Blood Hunter Hearst Helmsley woulda drew more? lmao, and at the end of the day does it even matter? when u ask somebody why their favorite wrestler is their favorite wrestler, im sure the last thing they think about is how much money the guy drew, HBK still one of the most popular and best of all time
 
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^ I remember that. I also remember HBK stomping Vader's face in that match too. He was probably high LOL
 
Paul Hate.;5517151 said:
Crow Sting drew like a motherfucker.One of the hottest runs of all time.

He didn't draw on his own, he was feuding at the time with the biggest draw in the company, Hulk Hogan. Sting was about as good of a draw as Shawn Michaels, nobody wasn't watching WCW until the NWO angle started
 
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Paul Hate.;5517167 said:
Over=someone who is popular and credible with a particular promotions fan base.

(Christopher Daniels,Koffi Kingston,Kane,etc).

Brand Name =Someone who is generally well known and popular among wrestling fan's in general regardless of promotion.

(Rvd,Samoa Joe,Angle,Raven,Scott Hall,etc).

Draw=someone who sells merchandise,tickets, and has a positive effect on ratings off name and appearance alone.

Wrestling has plenty of draws.

(flair,Bret,Sting,Cena,etc turf)

Superstar=someone who crosses over into mainstream media and entertainment success.Someone who can transfer over to non wrestling fans.

Wresting has few true Superstars(austin,Rock,Hogan,Piper,Macho,Andre,turf).

You know ya shit my nigga but ya Jeff woulda been bigger than Cena imo if he stayed and is the TNA equivalent to Cena right now.
 
VIBE;5517759 said:
Can Ziggler become the next HBK?

Lotta people comparing the two.

He gonna have his cult following grow more and more (since its already been established), but I don't see him transcending the sport .. like guess starring on tv shows, talk shows, VH1 shows, being randomly bought up in casual context as a representation of the wrestling industry on a sketch comedy, being used as a line in random rap or rock verses, and doing movies.

 
MC The Rapper;5517633 said:
HBK was fucking up the money if any thing case in point


Damn Jim ethered the f**k outta Shawn Michaels. I always wondered why Vader never won the belt

I think I heard somewhere, Vader was suppose to win it at Survivor Series 96 (I think) but some shss happen
 
T. Sanford;5520004 said:
MC The Rapper;5517633 said:
HBK was fucking up the money if any thing case in point


Damn Jim ethered the f**k outta Shawn Michaels. I always wondered why Vader never won the belt

I think I heard somewhere, Vader was suppose to win it at Survivor Series 96 (I think) but some shss happen


Jim ethers everybody
 
i dont care that he wasn't an outside draw like the rock or hogan, or a marketer's dream like Austin was. HBK ate, drank, breathed, snorted the wrestling business. Yeah he was a jerk, but that jerk was the reason i started watching wrestling.
 
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