Did she just ask him to apologize for a rape he was acquitted for?

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Respect @obnoxiouslyfresh i hear everything you saying and appreciate you not losing sight of the big picture.

Thanks @blacktux It's like nobody wants to give me credit for still supporting the film and buying tickets.

 

[Copper]

Somebody give her some Internet credit for buying a movie ticket

 

[Mr.LV]

I think what really hurt nate parker is he is married to white woman ,because if Nate was married to a black woman I do not think this blow up would be as big.

Aint that some nerve? And you got people in this thread who wanna psychoanalyze black women who "cape for white women" who would never stand up for them, but they don't wanna psychoanalyze what type of issues you have to have to go marry a white woman after going through a whole trial being accused of rape. Who the fuck does that? He has issues. How does he look at his own face in the mirror? I could give 2 shits about white women and their accusations when it comes to black men, black women, or black children. I could name a dozen black men I still supported after being accused by white women. Aint nobody stop me from liking Bill Cosby. I aint gotta like Nate Parker. You could steal a crayon from a white person in kindergarten, they'll use it as leverage for why they hate black people 50 years later. They dont need much at all. This goofball gets accused of rape,, could have spent 30 years in jail, has his reputation ruined, and finds the first white woman to marry. Stupmo!

It's wierd because if a white woman accused me of rape and I was found not guilty ,I would not socialize with white women or marry a white woman,I would keep my distance from them.

In theory that makes sense. In reality in most cases shit don't work that way.

A black man gets accused of a crime by another black gets found not guilty. Should that black now not ever socialize with other black men again?

I get and respect what you saying and don't agree with that move that Nate Parker made in who he chose to marry but for most people shit ain't going to break down that way.

Apples to oranges, white women have a long history of fucking over Black men over bullshit in America. It's not even close.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Somebody give her some Internet credit for buying a movie ticket

TWO tickets.

 

[Copper]

Somebody give her some Internet credit for buying a movie ticket

TWO tickets.

 

[R.D.]

Want credit for buying tickets instead of watching the movie?

Fuck the sales

Niggas supposed to watch

 

[xxCivicxx]

Want credit for buying tickets instead of watching the movie?

Fuck the sales

Niggas supposed to watch

Don't even bother she's lost

The cycle will continue

 

[D. Morgan]

I think what really hurt nate parker is he is married to white woman ,because if Nate was married to a black woman I do not think this blow up would be as big.

Aint that some nerve? And you got people in this thread who wanna psychoanalyze black women who "cape for white women" who would never stand up for them, but they don't wanna psychoanalyze what type of issues you have to have to go marry a white woman after going through a whole trial being accused of rape. Who the fuck does that? He has issues. How does he look at his own face in the mirror? I could give 2 shits about white women and their accusations when it comes to black men, black women, or black children. I could name a dozen black men I still supported after being accused by white women. Aint nobody stop me from liking Bill Cosby. I aint gotta like Nate Parker. You could steal a crayon from a white person in kindergarten, they'll use it as leverage for why they hate black people 50 years later. They dont need much at all. This goofball gets accused of rape,, could have spent 30 years in jail, has his reputation ruined, and finds the first white woman to marry. Stupmo!

It's wierd because if a white woman accused me of rape and I was found not guilty ,I would not socialize with white women or marry a white woman,I would keep my distance from them.

In theory that makes sense. In reality in most cases shit don't work that way.

A black man gets accused of a crime by another black gets found not guilty. Should that black now not ever socialize with other black men again?

I get and respect what you saying and don't agree with that move that Nate Parker made in who he chose to marry but for most people shit ain't going to break down that way.

Apples to oranges, white women have a long history of fucking over Black men over bullshit in America. It's not even close.

And black people don't have that same long history of fucking over other black people? Come on be realistic.

I agree it was a fucked up move. All I'm saying is most people not just going to cut off an entire race of people cause of one person doing some fucked up shit.

 

[deadeye]

I think what really hurt nate parker is he is married to white woman ,because if Nate was married to a black woman I do not think this blow up would be as big.

Aint that some nerve? And you got people in this thread who wanna psychoanalyze black women who "cape for white women" who would never stand up for them, but they don't wanna psychoanalyze what type of issues you have to have to go marry a white woman after going through a whole trial being accused of rape. Who the fuck does that? He has issues. How does he look at his own face in the mirror? I could give 2 shits about white women and their accusations when it comes to black men, black women, or black children. I could name a dozen black men I still supported after being accused by white women. Aint nobody stop me from liking Bill Cosby. I aint gotta like Nate Parker. You could steal a crayon from a white person in kindergarten, they'll use it as leverage for why they hate black people 50 years later. They dont need much at all. This goofball gets accused of rape,, could have spent 30 years in jail, has his reputation ruined, and finds the first white woman to marry. Stupmo!

It's wierd .

@MissK

 

[VulcanRaven]

Who this man married and who accused him of rape has nothing to do with each other. You people can not be that absurd. His personal life is his right and it's a contradiction to his freedom to have an issue with that. Anyway women of all races have lied about rape.

 

[desertrain10]

I don't think it's fair to say that a patriarchy automatically means the subjugation of women. It is hard for women to obtain top levels of power, but that doesn't mean women are property or without value. A lot of older African cultures were patriarchies, but women still had important roles and power within the community. Just because you give one party the lead doesn't mean all other parties become slaves.

If men are the gatekeepers of respectability...the law makers so they shape public policy ...business leaders...etc

Men are basically in control of every aspect of our lives, soceity

You don't find that problematic?

Just look at history...

Or look at how women are treated in starch patriarchal societies across the world

And as I was saying patriarchy breeds misogyny

You're basically saying that patriarchies must be male dictatorships, but that's not true. Just because men are the leaders doesn't mean that women don't get a say so. I'm the head of my household, but my wife still has input on what happens. It's not like I hit her with the "My way or the highway" line on a daily basis. Just like all slavery wasn't the same as the chattel slavery used in America, not all patriarchies are the same as what we see in America. Again, many precolonial African societies were technically patriarchies, but women were given special roles and held their own power.

This is one reason why it was silly for black women to jump on the feminism bandwagon in the way that white women did, because the relationships between men and women in the black community were not the same as between men and women in the white community.

if your girl and you decide that you are "the head of the house", that's your decision ...what ever works for you...

i'm talking about patriarchy in the sense that culture and society are dominated by men's thoughts, ideas, opinions, and desires. basically america since it's conception

though we are slowly becoming a more inclusive society for women, it's still problematic because it reinforces gender stereotypes. and its based on lies. men are not smarter than women. they are not better decision makers than women. they are not better leaders than women. they don't have better judgment. women are not inherently more emotional than men. yet still these lies are used to rationalize why men are offered better jobs , male dominated career fields net more pay, men pay less for products, men aren't told what to do with their reproductive organs, "women's work" is undervalued, industries have been built from exploiting women's insecurities, etc

not to mention power concentrated in the hands of one group is dangerous and corrupts. there needs to be a balance..

and it's not just women who suffer. patriarchy as a social structure assumes not just men, but specific types of men should have all the power. for example, lower class men are subjected to men of higher status and everyone is expected to adhere to rigid gender expectations. then men are not protected in many circumstances as they should " be able to protect themselves "

lol@ jump on the bandwagon? why do you all continue to repeat this garbage

you're basically marginalizing the large numbers of blk women who made significant contributions to the feminist movement from its inception

blk women were more likely than white women to support feminism and feminist issues when the movement first began because we not afforded the same protections as our white counterparts and we've always had to work for a living

i myself am a feminist because of the teachings and writings of blk women from today and the past...

and regardless of whether most tribes in pre-colonial africa were patriarchal. doesn't mean that relations between blk men and women were so much better. african women were often married off young and denied the same rights as men, same as they are in modern day africa. so why continue the perpetration of patriarchal thinking and not taking steps to correct it?

 

[Lord Ether]

 

[xxCivicxx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9aUPoLKsI

All facts

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I don't think it's fair to say that a patriarchy automatically means the subjugation of women. It is hard for women to obtain top levels of power, but that doesn't mean women are property or without value. A lot of older African cultures were patriarchies, but women still had important roles and power within the community. Just because you give one party the lead doesn't mean all other parties become slaves.

If men are the gatekeepers of respectability...the law makers so they shape public policy ...business leaders...etc

Men are basically in control of every aspect of our lives, soceity

You don't find that problematic?

Just look at history...

Or look at how women are treated in starch patriarchal societies across the world

And as I was saying patriarchy breeds misogyny

You're basically saying that patriarchies must be male dictatorships, but that's not true. Just because men are the leaders doesn't mean that women don't get a say so. I'm the head of my household, but my wife still has input on what happens. It's not like I hit her with the "My way or the highway" line on a daily basis. Just like all slavery wasn't the same as the chattel slavery used in America, not all patriarchies are the same as what we see in America. Again, many precolonial African societies were technically patriarchies, but women were given special roles and held their own power.

This is one reason why it was silly for black women to jump on the feminism bandwagon in the way that white women did, because the relationships between men and women in the black community were not the same as between men and women in the white community.

if your girl and you decide that you are "the head of the house", that's your decision ...what ever works for you...

i'm talking about patriarchy in the sense that culture and society are dominated by men's thoughts, ideas, opinions, and desires. basically america since it's conception

though we are slowly becoming a more inclusive society for women, it's still problematic because it reinforces gender stereotypes. and its based on lies. men are not smarter than women. they are not better decision makers than women. they are not better leaders than women. they don't have better judgment. women are not inherently more emotional than men. yet still these lies are used to rationalize why men are offered better jobs , male dominated career fields net more pay, men pay less for products, men aren't told what to do with their reproductive organs, "women's work" is undervalued, industries have been built from exploiting women's insecurities, etc

not to mention power concentrated in the hands of one group is dangerous and corrupts. there needs to be a balance..

and it's not just women who suffer. patriarchy as a social structure assumes not just men, but specific types of men should have all the power. for example, lower class men are subjected to men of higher status and everyone is expected to adhere to rigid gender expectations. then men are not protected in many circumstances as they should " be able to protect themselves "

lol@ jump on the bandwagon? why do you all continue to repeat this garbage

you're basically marginalizing the large numbers of blk women who made significant contributions to the feminist movement from its inception

blk women were more likely than white women to support feminism and feminist issues when the movement first began because we not afforded the same protections as our white counterparts and we've always had to work for a living

i myself am a feminist because of the teachings and writings of blk women from today and the past...

and regardless of whether most tribes in pre-colonial africa were patriarchal. doesn't mean that relations between blk men and women were so much better. african women were often married off young and denied the same rights as men, same as they are in modern day africa. so why continue the perpetration of patriarchal thinking and not taking steps to correct it?

Yes, you jumped on a bandwagon. Women's suffrage as it relates to governmental rights is one thing, but extending it to the relationships between men and women in society is a different matter. The familial and power structure for men and women in the black community has always been different than what was seen in the white community. So when black women parrot the shit that white women say, it's ridiculous. Like you yourself pointed out, black women have always had to work and have always held a position of authority in the black family that white women didn't in the white family, so the criticisms that white feminists have against certain structures didn't really apply to blacks, but black women still act as if they do. That's problematic and is at least partially responsible for the some of the divide we see between black men and black women.

And you might want to read up more on pre-colonial africa. There were tribes that practiced the things you said, but keep in mind that many other tribes and countries had matrilineal inheritance, women councils, and female spiritual leaders that had a lot of power and control in those societies. Check this out as a reference:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3177985?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

 

[blackrain]

For those who think black women are the reason this film didn't do bigger numbers

The majority of people who went to see the film were women, and they gave it high marks.

“One rival female studio executive told Deadline, “It’s very hard to watch this film as a woman,” and yet Birth of a Nation showed a majority of females attending at 61%, and awarding the title an A.”

Clearly the women who spoke publicly about their discomfort with Parker didn’t stop others from supporting and enjoying the film.
http://deadline.com/2016/10/the-birth-of-a-nation-nate-parker-box-office-fox-searchlight-1201833362/

 

[blackrain]

Also came across this article as well talking about why the film didn't perform better

This is about the torrent of social media backlash black women have faced for supposedly singlehandedly sinking Nate Parker’s Nat Turner biopic, Birth of a Nation.

I’m not sure how we, as black women, always end up here — at fault when things go wrong for black folks — but there is just no way that we are responsible for Nate Parker’s film flopping at the box office this weekend. And here’s why;

1. The majority of people who went to see the film were women, and they gave it high marks.

Per Deadline.com;

“One rival female studio executive told Deadline, “It’s very hard to watch this film as a woman,” and yet Birth of a Nation showed a majority of females attending at 61%, and awarding the title an A.”

Clearly the women who spoke publicly about their discomfort with Parker didn’t stop others from supporting and enjoying the film.

2. The majority of people who went to see the film were black.

Per The Washington Post;

“The movie did better with black audiences; 60 percent of ticket-buyers were African-American, and the company remains hopeful for a word-of-mouth surge.”

Black folks showed up.

3. Nate Parker’s challenge was never with black audiences, but with white. 12 Years a Slave gained broad success because it became a crossover hit, appealing to both black and white audiences. Birth of a Nation didn’t make the leap (or it hasn’t so far);

Per Deadline.com;

“For weeks now many saw this critically acclaimed antebellum slave revolt Sundance Film Festival title opening in the single digits, and many in exhibition and distribution point to director/star/producer Nate Parker and co-writer Jean Celestin’s media maelstrom as preventing Birth of a Nation from crossing over beyond its core African American demo (who turned up close to 60% this weekend).”

While we focus so much attention on black women who spoke out against Parker, do we forget that white folks were watching while a black man who (in the eyes of many) gang raped a white woman in college repeatedly expressed no remorse for it, and then appealed to them to pay money to see him murder a bunch of white people on screen? Um, yeah. Black audiences were never going to be Nate Parker’s ultimate challenge.

4. Birth of a Nation follows a pattern of films that are critically acclaimed at the Sundance Film Festival but fail to generate “real world” buzz. While Parker’s film broke acquisition records at Sundance and gained a standing ovation, the festival is notoriously bad at predicting what will become a mainstream hit.

From Buzzfeed;

“Again and again, the most hyped movies out of Sundance have failed to reach their lofty financial expectations once they leave the safe confines of Park City, Utah. Yes, Little Miss Sunshine was an unqualified sensation, but far more often the festival turns out films like Hamlet 2, Happy, Texas, and Son of Rambow that can’t even earn back their purchase price. The Birth of a Nation has already out-grossed all of those films, and yet it still has a long road to go before it can earn back Searchlight’s $17.5 million.”

 

[blackrain]

5. Nate Parker has fared better than controversial actors like Woody Allen and Mel Gibson whose scandals have affected their box office opening, in large part because black fan bases are so loyal.

From Buzzfeed;

“Parker’s last film as an actor, 2014’s romance Beyond the Lights (co-starring Mbatha-Raw), earned $14.6 million domestically, an amount that The Birth of a Nation will almost certainly surpass through the life of its box office run.

Compare that outcome to what happened to Woody Allen’s box office after his daughter Dylan wrote an open letter to Hollywood in 2014 about her allegation that Allen molested her when she was seven. Or consider the precipitous decline of Gibson’s career after his infamous 2006 arrest in which he allegedly said, “The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world,” and the 2011 release of recordings of Gibson spewing misogynistic and racist epithets at his ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva. In each case, the commercial viability of Allen and Gibson’s subsequent films dropped significantly, at least in part due to the fallout from their respective scandals.”

6. A mainstream publication — Variety — was the first to publicize the rape allegations against Parker and, in the wake of the scandal resurfacing, many non-black film reviewers downgraded their review of the film. Prior to that Birth of a Nation enjoyed unanimously positive reviews. The idea that black women started a campaign against Parker is completely inaccurate.

7. The Academy of Motion Pictures, responsible for determining Oscar nominees, has distanced itself from Birth of a Nation — not just because of Parker’s past — but as backlash against the #oscarssowhite campaign.

Per The Los Angeles Times;

“The motion picture academy screening of Nate Parker’s slave revolt historical drama, which opened to a flat $7.1 million at the box office, was about at one-quarter capacity Sunday, with Oscar voters and their guests filling about 250 of the academy’s Samuel L. Goldwyn Theater’s 1,000 seats.

The low turnout wasn’t particularly surprising. Throughout the week, many academy members told The Times they had no plans on seeing “Birth” on Sunday — or any time in the future. The reasons offered ranged from distaste over the details of Parker’s 1999 rape case, disdain for how Parker answered questions about his past while promoting the movie, and a general fatigue with movies about slavery. (Remember: Many academy members never bothered to see 2014 best picture winner “12 Years a Slave,” though some still voted for it anyway.)

Sunday’s shunning of “Birth” also signals the lingering resentment many academy members feel over January’s #OscarSoWhite controversy, when voters were criticized for nominating an all-white slate of acting nominees for a second consecutive year. The academy’s immediate pledge to diversify and broaden its membership angered many voters who believed the timing of the response implied that their balloting had racist undertones….

“Basically, the movie was anointed out of Sundance with the media telling us that if we didn’t vote for it, we would be again be considered racist,” one academy member, a producer, says. “And all the hype seemed less about the quality of the movie itself, but the story behind it and the subject matter. I’m not buying it. And I’m not seeing it, either.”

Adds another Oscar voter, a member of the writers branch: “This guy ruined a woman’s life and then complains how hard it’s been for him. [Forget] him. There’s no way I’m going to support that.””

8. And since we’re talking about black women, Oprah Winfrey reached out to Parker in February expressing enthusiastic love for the film. When Variety broke the news of Parker’s past in August, Winfrey wanted to help Parker manage the backlash. He declined her help. Per The Hollywood Reporter;

“Winfrey, along with her friend and CBS This Morning anchor Gayle King, was one of the first people to see Nate Parker’s The Birth of a Nation outside of a festival setting. The women were so enthusiastic that they sent the filmmaker a Feb. 1 Instagram video congratulating him. In August, when news reports began to focus on the 1999 rape charges involving Parker and his Birth of a Nation collaborator, Jean Celestin, Winfrey initially seemed ready to help. (Parker and Celestin were Penn State roommates at the time of the fateful encounter that led to the trial. Parker was acquitted; Celestin’s conviction was thrown out on appeal.)

Sources say Winfrey suggested Parker address the matter in an appearance with King on her CBS program. But Parker declined.”

Birth of a Nation emerges at a time when American race relations are particularly heated, and many are rethinking long-held beliefs about consent and sexual assault. Instead of understanding the film’s performance in this complicated landscape, the black community has opted to turn to a familiar scapegoat. And that is perhaps what’s most disappointing of all.

 

[desertrain10]

I don't think it's fair to say that a patriarchy automatically means the subjugation of women. It is hard for women to obtain top levels of power, but that doesn't mean women are property or without value. A lot of older African cultures were patriarchies, but women still had important roles and power within the community. Just because you give one party the lead doesn't mean all other parties become slaves.

If men are the gatekeepers of respectability...the law makers so they shape public policy ...business leaders...etc

Men are basically in control of every aspect of our lives, soceity

You don't find that problematic?

Just look at history...

Or look at how women are treated in starch patriarchal societies across the world

And as I was saying patriarchy breeds misogyny

You're basically saying that patriarchies must be male dictatorships, but that's not true. Just because men are the leaders doesn't mean that women don't get a say so. I'm the head of my household, but my wife still has input on what happens. It's not like I hit her with the "My way or the highway" line on a daily basis. Just like all slavery wasn't the same as the chattel slavery used in America, not all patriarchies are the same as what we see in America. Again, many precolonial African societies were technically patriarchies, but women were given special roles and held their own power.

This is one reason why it was silly for black women to jump on the feminism bandwagon in the way that white women did, because the relationships between men and women in the black community were not the same as between men and women in the white community.

if your girl and you decide that you are "the head of the house", that's your decision ...what ever works for you...

i'm talking about patriarchy in the sense that culture and society are dominated by men's thoughts, ideas, opinions, and desires. basically america since it's conception

though we are slowly becoming a more inclusive society for women, it's still problematic because it reinforces gender stereotypes. and its based on lies. men are not smarter than women. they are not better decision makers than women. they are not better leaders than women. they don't have better judgment. women are not inherently more emotional than men. yet still these lies are used to rationalize why men are offered better jobs , male dominated career fields net more pay, men pay less for products, men aren't told what to do with their reproductive organs, "women's work" is undervalued, industries have been built from exploiting women's insecurities, etc

not to mention power concentrated in the hands of one group is dangerous and corrupts. there needs to be a balance..

and it's not just women who suffer. patriarchy as a social structure assumes not just men, but specific types of men should have all the power. for example, lower class men are subjected to men of higher status and everyone is expected to adhere to rigid gender expectations. then men are not protected in many circumstances as they should " be able to protect themselves "

lol@ jump on the bandwagon? why do you all continue to repeat this garbage

you're basically marginalizing the large numbers of blk women who made significant contributions to the feminist movement from its inception

blk women were more likely than white women to support feminism and feminist issues when the movement first began because we not afforded the same protections as our white counterparts and we've always had to work for a living

i myself am a feminist because of the teachings and writings of blk women from today and the past...

and regardless of whether most tribes in pre-colonial africa were patriarchal. doesn't mean that relations between blk men and women were so much better. african women were often married off young and denied the same rights as men, same as they are in modern day africa. so why continue the perpetration of patriarchal thinking and not taking steps to correct it?

Yes, you jumped on a bandwagon. Women's suffrage as it relates to governmental rights is one thing, but extending it to the relationships between men and women in society is a different matter. The familial and power structure for men and women in the black community has always been different than what was seen in the white community. So when black women parrot the shit that white women say, it's ridiculous. Like you yourself pointed out, black women have always had to work and have always held a position of authority in the black family that white women didn't in the white family, so the criticisms that white feminists have against certain structures didn't really apply to blacks, but black women still act as if they do. That's problematic and is at least partially responsible for the some of the divide we see between black men and black women.

And you might want to read up more on pre-colonial africa. There were tribes that practiced the things you said, but keep in mind that many other tribes and countries had matrilineal inheritance, women councils, and female spiritual leaders that had a lot of power and control in those societies. Check this out as a reference:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3177985?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

You're being obtuse now...and dellusional

Out of necessity blk women have always had to work and at times were left to raise families without a man in the household, that doesn't mean there is an absence of patriarchal thinking

Not only that, this idea misogyny and sexism doesn't exist within the Blk community is laughable

Take a look at domestic abuse stats. Patriarchal beliefs of male, heterosexual dominance lie at the root of gender based violence

Regardless, not all blk men have to actively participate in blk female oppression...

Same as White women, Blk women suffer under the weight of white patrirachal authority .But Blk women have two strikes against us

That is a big reason why Blk women were the first to pursue women's rights. We didn't have the same protections as White women

That said, the problem is when blk men and women sit idle or perpetuate patriarchal thinking which mandates female subordination . It reinforces our oppression.

I also read about precolonial africa, most tribes did not view women as being equal to men which is the root of the problem...different does not mean unequal

Yes women were given roles, but rarely were they given roles of leadership

You can try to pretty up shit...but it's still shit lol

 

[blackgod813]

Spoiler

The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.

In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.

I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.

That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.

Smh disgusting

Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??

I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.

I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to

And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought

White people said "sick em" and you obeyed

How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??

I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.

Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?

I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face

I posted a series of text messages that outlined my reasons for A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving. And B. the fact that I still wanted to buy tickets to the movie because it is an important film that has significance that goes much farther beyond Nate Parker himself. Those were my thoughts.

Later in the thread following all the males saying I'm not being a team player, I said I would go see the freakin movie. But I guess you didn't see that either...

So now what you got to say? I need to see the movie and be a fan of Nate Parker too? Anything else you need from me? You want fries with that?

...so you proved my point, you don't like that man because you were told to not like him

A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving.

Of course you were disturbed, I'm sure you have a problem with any black man that doesn't humble himself like a slave boy in front of white people and black females

Your feelings to amount to any concrete evidence as to what is causing you to send so much hate towards this black male

Females hear the word rape and literally turn into complete herd creature idiots. It doesn't even matter that the allegations ARE FALSE, OR the fact that false rape claims have destroyed more communities and destroyed more black lives throughout history than even lynching itself has

Congrats, you've been successfully brainwashed

Oh get over yourself. I ain't gotta like that man. Did I tell you not to like him? Fuck outta here with your hyperbole. Talkin about I'm "sending so much hate to this man" while meanwhile... I'm actually supporting the movie. How much hate can you send to someone whose film you're simultaneously supporting? You are ridiculous. Go find some real shit to be fake passionate about. Or better yet, go find someone who actually refuses to see the movie so you can actually have an argument that makes sense. Irrational ass. I could have said I purchased 100 tickets and you'd tell me I should have paid for it with singles. You just like having some nonsense to debate. It's a waste of time just arguing with someone whose sole purpose is to argue.

You know who else I don't like? The duke lacrosse players who were exonerated of rape. And they were actually exonerated by way of DNA, not the nuances of consent, which is much more compelling, and I'm still disgusted by them. Don't fuckin make this about him being a black man and dont put words in my mouth or speak for me. You don't know what you're talking about.

Why the didnt rape her in the lacross case

 

[Max.]

Yall cyber bullied her into buying tickets

Man