BelovedAfeni;9421064 said:https://youtu.be/MWin4d0YnDo
Amazing.
I can't fathom how people can have something stare them dead in the face and act as though it doesn't exist.
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BelovedAfeni;9421064 said:https://youtu.be/MWin4d0YnDo
xxCivicxx;9421079 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420965 said:xxCivicxx;9420868 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420337 said:xxCivicxx;9420163 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9407218 said:leftcoastkev;9407214 said:The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.
In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.
I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.
That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.
Smh disgusting
Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??
I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.
I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to
And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought
White people said "sick em" and you obeyed
How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??
I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.
Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?
I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face
Tymoney19;9421151 said:Yall still caping for this guy? Hes a rapist who made a film about a historical black figure. get over it. Yes we know he was exonerated but guilty ppl get off literally everyday. white or black. Rape is still rape.
obnoxiouslyfresh;9421160 said:xxCivicxx;9421079 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420965 said:xxCivicxx;9420868 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420337 said:xxCivicxx;9420163 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9407218 said:leftcoastkev;9407214 said:The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.
In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.
I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.
That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.
Smh disgusting
Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??
I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.
I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to
And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought
White people said "sick em" and you obeyed
How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??
I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.
Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?
I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face
I posted a series of text messages that outlined my reasons for A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving. And B. the fact that I still wanted to buy tickets to the movie because it is an important film that has significance that goes much farther beyond Nate Parker himself. Those were my thoughts.
Later in the thread following all the males saying I'm not being a team player, I said I would go see the freakin movie. But I guess you didn't see that either...
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So now what you got to say? I need to see the movie and be a fan of Nate Parker too? Anything else you need from me? You want fries with that?
A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving.
Tymoney19;9421151 said:Yall still caping for this guy? Hes a rapist who made a film about a historical black figure. get over it. Yes we know he was exonerated but guilty ppl get off literally everyday. white or black. Rape is still rape.
Tymoney19;9421151 said:Yall still caping for this guy? Hes a rapist who made a film about a historical black figure. get over it. Yes we know he was exonerated but guilty ppl get off literally everyday. white or black. Rape is still rape.
xxCivicxx;9421182 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9421160 said:xxCivicxx;9421079 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420965 said:xxCivicxx;9420868 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420337 said:xxCivicxx;9420163 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9407218 said:leftcoastkev;9407214 said:The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.
In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.
I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.
That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.
Smh disgusting
Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??
I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.
I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to
And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought
White people said "sick em" and you obeyed
How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??
I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.
Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?
I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face
I posted a series of text messages that outlined my reasons for A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving. And B. the fact that I still wanted to buy tickets to the movie because it is an important film that has significance that goes much farther beyond Nate Parker himself. Those were my thoughts.
Later in the thread following all the males saying I'm not being a team player, I said I would go see the freakin movie. But I guess you didn't see that either...
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So now what you got to say? I need to see the movie and be a fan of Nate Parker too? Anything else you need from me? You want fries with that?
...so you proved my point, you don't like that man because you were told to not like him
A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving.
Of course you were disturbed, I'm sure you have a problem with any black man that doesn't humble himself like a slave boy in front of white people and black females
Your feelings to amount to any concrete evidence as to what is causing you to send so much hate towards this black male
Females hear the word rape and literally turn into complete herd creature idiots. It doesn't even matter that the allegations ARE FALSE, OR the fact that false rape claims have destroyed more communities and destroyed more black lives throughout history than even lynching itself has
Congrats, you've been successfully brainwashed
xxCivicxx;9421194 said:It's amazing how black men are STILL considered guilty even when PROVEN INNOCENT
obnoxiouslyfresh;9421231 said:xxCivicxx;9421182 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9421160 said:xxCivicxx;9421079 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420965 said:xxCivicxx;9420868 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420337 said:xxCivicxx;9420163 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9407218 said:leftcoastkev;9407214 said:The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.
In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.
I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.
That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.
Smh disgusting
Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??
I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.
I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to
And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought
White people said "sick em" and you obeyed
How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??
I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.
Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?
I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face
I posted a series of text messages that outlined my reasons for A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving. And B. the fact that I still wanted to buy tickets to the movie because it is an important film that has significance that goes much farther beyond Nate Parker himself. Those were my thoughts.
Later in the thread following all the males saying I'm not being a team player, I said I would go see the freakin movie. But I guess you didn't see that either...
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So now what you got to say? I need to see the movie and be a fan of Nate Parker too? Anything else you need from me? You want fries with that?
...so you proved my point, you don't like that man because you were told to not like him
A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving.
Of course you were disturbed, I'm sure you have a problem with any black man that doesn't humble himself like a slave boy in front of white people and black females
Your feelings to amount to any concrete evidence as to what is causing you to send so much hate towards this black male
Females hear the word rape and literally turn into complete herd creature idiots. It doesn't even matter that the allegations ARE FALSE, OR the fact that false rape claims have destroyed more communities and destroyed more black lives throughout history than even lynching itself has
Congrats, you've been successfully brainwashed
Oh get over yourself. I ain't gotta like that man. Did I tell you not to like him? Fuck outta here with your hyperbole. Talkin about I'm "sending so much hate to this man" while meanwhile... I'm actually supporting the movie. How much hate can you send to someone whose film you're simultaneously supporting? You are ridiculous. Go find some real shit to be fake passionate about. Or better yet, go find someone who actually refuses to see the movie so you can actually have an argument that makes sense. Irrational ass. I could have said I purchased 100 tickets and you'd tell me I should have paid for it with singles. You just like having some nonsense to debate. It's a waste of time just arguing with someone whose sole purpose is to argue.
You know who else I don't like? The duke lacrosse players who were exonerated of rape. And they were actually exonerated by way of DNA, not the nuances of consent, which is much more compelling, and I'm still disgusted by them. Don't fuckin make this about him being a black man and dont put words in my mouth or speak for me. You don't know what you're talking about.
obnoxiouslyfresh;9421232 said:xxCivicxx;9421194 said:It's amazing how black men are STILL considered guilty even when PROVEN INNOCENT
It's amazing how you can read and choose not to. amazing.
xxCivicxx;9421269 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9421231 said:xxCivicxx;9421182 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9421160 said:xxCivicxx;9421079 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420965 said:xxCivicxx;9420868 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9420337 said:xxCivicxx;9420163 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;9407218 said:leftcoastkev;9407214 said:The bottom line is him waving in his stance in ANY type of compromise (even expressing too much sympathy for rape victims) opens the door for the perception of self accountability. NEVER allow yourself to be manipulated into being accountable for something you didn't do.
In situations like these the less that is said the better...whether the movie sells or not. Because once you express any sort of self accountability the media will be there like hawks to spin it....and he'll be stuck explaining his previous explanations....and eventually the more it happens he'll look like a liar no matter if he's being truthful or not.
I'm probably not even going to see the movie in the theatre...but I'm damn sure going to buy some tickets on line to support the brother even if they go to waste.
That's exactly what I was gonna do. Buy a ticket. I can't watch his face for 120 minutes.
Smh disgusting
Why do some black females jump at the opportunity to shit on black males for their white daddy that doesn't give af about them either??
I believe that myself and the gentleman before me said the same thing. That we would buy tickets and probably not see the film. But you got some shit to say to me. I bought mine.... Not sure how that's shittin on a black man when I clearly supported his movie. So you can take a seat somewhere.
I could give a fuck about your 10 dollars, youre passive-aggressively shitting on a black male just because your white daddy told you to
And you can't even name a reason why because your viewpoint is devoid of any critical thought
White people said "sick em" and you obeyed
How is that goofy ass 10 dollars gonna help the next generation of females that the lost females of this generation are currently indoctrinating against black males??
I ain't gotta keep repeating myself to yo ass. I named several reasons and you could scroll up and look or shut up talkin to me.
Ok then please point 1 of them out for me?
I read this entire thread over the course of the day and all I see is you talking about is face
I posted a series of text messages that outlined my reasons for A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving. And B. the fact that I still wanted to buy tickets to the movie because it is an important film that has significance that goes much farther beyond Nate Parker himself. Those were my thoughts.
Later in the thread following all the males saying I'm not being a team player, I said I would go see the freakin movie. But I guess you didn't see that either...
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So now what you got to say? I need to see the movie and be a fan of Nate Parker too? Anything else you need from me? You want fries with that?
...so you proved my point, you don't like that man because you were told to not like him
A.Being disturbed by Nate Parker and the way he has responded in the wake of these allegations, which I found unnerving.
Of course you were disturbed, I'm sure you have a problem with any black man that doesn't humble himself like a slave boy in front of white people and black females
Your feelings to amount to any concrete evidence as to what is causing you to send so much hate towards this black male
Females hear the word rape and literally turn into complete herd creature idiots. It doesn't even matter that the allegations ARE FALSE, OR the fact that false rape claims have destroyed more communities and destroyed more black lives throughout history than even lynching itself has
Congrats, you've been successfully brainwashed
Oh get over yourself. I ain't gotta like that man. Did I tell you not to like him? Fuck outta here with your hyperbole. Talkin about I'm "sending so much hate to this man" while meanwhile... I'm actually supporting the movie. How much hate can you send to someone whose film you're simultaneously supporting? You are ridiculous. Go find some real shit to be fake passionate about. Or better yet, go find someone who actually refuses to see the movie so you can actually have an argument that makes sense. Irrational ass. I could have said I purchased 100 tickets and you'd tell me I should have paid for it with singles. You just like having some nonsense to debate. It's a waste of time just arguing with someone whose sole purpose is to argue.
You know who else I don't like? The duke lacrosse players who were exonerated of rape. And they were actually exonerated by way of DNA, not the nuances of consent, which is much more compelling, and I'm still disgusted by them. Don't fuckin make this about him being a black man and dont put words in my mouth or speak for me. You don't know what you're talking about.
Cool at least you're aware of how irrational you are
desertrain10;9420939 said:LordZuko;9420918 said:desertrain10;9420898 said:deadeye;9420080 said:desertrain10;9418842 said:deadeye;9418781 said:desertrain10;9418509 said:deadeye;9418366 said:desertrain10;9415810 said:LordZuko;9415612 said:desertrain10;9415557 said:LordZuko;9415497 said:desertrain10;9415100 said:5th Letter;9414868 said:LordZuko;9414633 said:Lsa is really exposing black females in this ongoing gender war. Black females been showing they ass for a minute now. They aren't thinking about the end game at all.
I went to see it last night, it was a great film. The only thing i didn't really vibe with was how white women were portrayed as bystanders of the antebellum south. That they didn't have any skin in the game and had their own nefarious shit they were up to.
Besides some scenes at the end. I didn't like how they made white women out to be "nice" to black people. That was complete bullshit.
Cosign
While white women suffered under the weight of the same patriarchal authority to which slaves were subjected
Just think of how the son inherited his father's property and the plantation after his death...though his mother was still alive and well
White women still had the freedom to vent their fury, albeit on the only people to whom they were superior... Blk ppl
And even with BoN it bothered me a lot seeing white woman seperate young Nat from his mother...only so she could teach him how to parrot the bible and parade him around like a well behaved dog
But yea I think 12 years a slave did a better job showing how white women we rent just bystanders but complicit participants
How did white women "suffer?" You gotta explain that. @desertrain10
Obviously their suffering does not compare to what we have faced...but white women had to answer to white patriarchal authority as slaves during that time
They couldn't vote, because they were thought to be lesser than
They had very little economic prospects
Made less than men
No legal recourse if their husbands were physically abusive
White women didn't vote because white women were not expected to be soldiers. The right to vote is traditionally tied to the obligation of national service. In fact women still aren't expected to fight tho men are. Males when registering to vote are supposed to have signed up for selective service as well.
White women were not slaves, they were a protected class. Let's break down what a slave is. A slave is a human being whose labor is forcibly extracted for little or no compensation for the benefit of a dominant house or society.
White women economic prospects are tied to the economic prospects of their men, their husbands and their sons. They are the beneficiaries of white capitalism without having to put in the work. The reason being is because white women are the sole facilitators of white patriarchy.
For all the shit you throw at the concept of patriarchy, the society with the strongest patriarchy will have the most protected women. It has been established by white society that if you even breathe at a white girl in the wrong way the full force of white patriarchy will come to seek recompense.
In the Black community, that is sans patriarchy you can do damn near anything you want to a Black female: beat them, rape them, abuse them, exploit them, discard them when you done with them. That has also been long established by white patriarchy.
Birth of a Nation established this paradigm. Nat picks up a toy that a white woman's child dropped, handed it back to the mother and is beaten and bout to be charged with assault by a white man. Nat's wife is gang raped and beaten by white men, just cuz. and they don;t even call that shit rape just par for the course. Aint no callin the sheriff. The sheriff is nothing but an authorized agent of a patriarchy selected to keep the "peace" the dominant society has established.
No patriarchy=no law. No law means you don't have the security that you want as a woman. Black women are neither going to establish order or enforce law, for an example I direct you to your nearest Black community.
@desertrain10
The blk community doesn't live, exist in a vacuum
Since slavery, we too are members of a society where white males are at the top of the social hierarchy...Blk women being at the bottom of the totem pole
Law enforcement being a branch of partichical white authority
A blk woman was raped during those times she couldn't call the sheriff because she was a black first and a woman second
Subsequently many Blk women lived under the threat of rape and abuse, regardless of whether it came from white men or blk men
White men obviously being the greater threat
And though our experiences differ greatly, that scene you alluded to does a great job of illustrating how white women had very little agency in comparison to their white male counterparts
While they enjoyed protections Blk men and women did not, they still had to answer to their white husbands and fathers. And were regularly subjected to the violent ways of their husbands and father
They couldn't just leave because women had limited economic opportunities at the time
And voting initially was tied to property ownership in America. The popular sentiment they were the only voices that mattered. As time progressed though it varied state to state, white males were the only group that could freely vote
They justified this injustice with junk science that insiduated or outright suggested women and blks were less intelligent, had smaller brains
@desertrain10
Why do you care so much for white women who probably don't care about you either way?
so acknowledging that women, including white women, suffer under the weight of white patriarchal authority = me caring so much for white women
smh...
how sway???? lol
you gotta come better than that bruh
@desertrain10
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Stop playing dumb.
You're smart enough to know exactly what I meant.
no....
i 'm honestly not
break it down for me
Just seems like you're going out or your way to highlight the hardships of people who don't care about you either way.......and who directly benefited from the oppression of your people.
It doesn't make sense to do that for people who wouldn't do the same for you.
so me acknowledging that women, including white women, suffer under the weight of white patriarchal authority = me going out my way?????
I also acknowledged that white women participated in the oppression of my ppl....
Doesn't make the aforementioned any less true
My gripe initially was that I thought BoN live many slave narrators weren't hard enough on white women lol
Kick rocks bruh
You have yet to give an example of white women suffering under white men.
so there was no women's suffrage movement
never in this country did women face discrimination in the labor market and banking industry
sexism never existed
I'm just making this shit up....ok....
let's agree to disagree
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