Did Nicki Minaj sell-out by making POP songs?

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KillaCham.-THE ELITE;4490978 said:
usmarin3;4490304 said:
KillaCham.-THE ELITE;4490277 said:
You must mean Max Martin.

Dr. Luke never worked with Gaga. He doesn't even like her lol.
usmarin3;4490225 said:
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usmarin3;4490135 said:
There is a difference in naturally evolving and becoming popular (see Outkast), and there is blatantly selling out (see Nicki). You can obviously tell the chick sold the fuck out.

1. She bit Lady Gaga's crazy outfits

2. She went and use all of Lady Gaga's producers after Lady Gaga dropped them

3. She went and use Lady Gaga's choreographer/show designer after Lady Gaga dropped her

4. She switched up her music and started making electro pop music like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna (same producers)

You can tell when a artist naturally evolve, plus the bitch can't sing and her music is horrible period. I could see if she could sing and perform, it comes off as forced and corny to me.

Nigga its europop, not electro pop lol o_O And Nicki been using LaurieAnn Gibson since 2010 through Diddy. Gaga fired her like 6 months ago. THEE fuck you talkin about?


Europop is electronic music fool, it's techno/house/etc. LaurieAnn Gibson got hired by Nicki right after she was fired by Lady Gaga, and Nicki damn sure wasn't on that weird ass Lady Gaga stage shit (The Grammy wackness) until she started working with LaurieAnn Gibson.

Any one with a brain clearly see Nicki is trying to market herself as a black Lady Gaga. She is no different that Lil Wayne, see some shit working and jump on the trend.


The music Lady Gaga, Rihanna and them make is not techno or house music. Nigga what?
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Nope, RED ONE who Nicki ran to after Gaga stop fucking with him.

LOL you clearly must not know music if you don't think the beats they are singing on isn't electronic music.


Y'all niggas are stupid. Lemme break it down foryou. Just cause different songs have heavy Pop beats doesn't mean they're in the same sub-genre. Rihanna, Nicki's latest Pop shit, and someone like Britney Spears' music is not electro-pop. They have elements of electro, but a 15-20 electro breakdown or a bridge with a dubstep breakdown doesn't make the entire song just that. It's the style that's popular in the US Pop scene right now. You hear that exact formula in all 3 of their latest singles. Techno is mostly pure electronic music - its not the same. Katy Perry's E.T. is closer to electro-pop and that shit was initially meant for Three 6 Mafia so what is you really saying?

I don't remember too much of Gaga's last album, I listened to that trash like 1 1/2 times... but lemme correct myself, out of her singles does has a few electro-pop songs. Britney, Rihanna, Pop Nicki = Euro-Pop/Dance. Lady Gaga = American Dance-Pop/Electro-Pop. Katy Perry = American Pop-Rock/Dance.

And like I said, Nicki been using Laurieann for years. The 2010 VMAs and some of Nicki's music videos are Laurieann.The pr00f is out there. Gaga is already biting enough artists, nobody is checkin to be her THAT hard.


But in the end she still sucks at making music
 
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Making Pop songs doesn't make a rapper a sell-out. It's the intent and motivation behind the music that makes an artist a sell-out. If they sacrifice artistic integrity in the name of moving units, then that's a sell-out move. In Nicki's case, she's not really a sell-out. Since she debuted, she's done Pop records. This album is just more Pop than what she's done previously. The singles she dropped from the last album were Pop like "Right Thru Me", "Check it Out", "Your Love", and "Super Bass" were Crossover Pop songs.
 
Well I don't know 1 Hip Hop fan that bumped her Hip Hop material so she might as well make pop music. She's terrible though and I hope her career crashes & burns.
 
She's a goddamn sell out, period. Tell me which particular tracks of her can be honestly called hip-hop? Definitely none of her singles, not even Roman's Revenge bullshit. She makes mockery of rap and black women. She looks like doll, makes stupid face expressions, at worst she makes bubble-gum, electro-pop music and unlike Rihanna she doesn't even succeed at that shit.
 
H-Rap 180;4488603 said:
Q45T;4488563 said:
She sold out when she signed to Young Money...

So did Emenim sell-out when he signed to Aftermath/Interscope? He dyed his hair blonde, put on a dress and started making Pop records

I think you wer being sarcastic here, but really the simple answer is 'yes'.

 
real_hh_rep;4491854 said:
She's a goddamn sell out, period. Tell me which particular tracks of her can be honestly called hip-hop? Definitely none of her singles, not even Roman's Revenge bullshit. She makes mockery of rap and black women. She looks like doll, makes stupid face expressions, at worst she makes bubble-gum, electro-pop music and unlike Rihanna she doesn't even succeed at that shit.

"Beez in the trap" is #9 on urban radio. That song is HipHop, a lot more HipHop than that Roman Revenge song.

Does she make a mockery of rap more than the men who dress up like women and rap about having sex with animals?

Yeah she looks like a doll but you got 40 year ole rappers with no facial hair who look like pedophiles.

If her music is bubble-gum, electro-pop music how was she able to get 2-Chainz, Ross, Jeezy, Nas, Camron & BeenieMan on her last album?
 
Man it took Nicki Minaj for yall to finally realize how good of an album 808's is....But on the subject i think its funny how u MEN are debating over this. I heard the first album, recognized that it WAS a balance between hip hop & pop and gave it to my wife and daughter cuz that album was strictly for them. I say why not do pop. Shes a woman and women around the globe gravitate to that Super Bass and Starships shit. Hell i just mute the damn TV and enjoy. Shit let her get money and u niggas stop judging music that is not for you.
 
hnic1978;4492137 said:
Man it took Nicki Minaj for yall to finally realize how good of an album 808's is....But on the subject i think its funny how u MEN are debating over this. I heard the first album, recognized that it WAS a balance between hip hop & pop and gave it to my wife and daughter cuz that album was strictly for them. I say why not do pop. Shes a woman and women around the globe gravitate to that Super Bass and Starships shit. Hell i just mute the damn TV and enjoy. Shit let her get money and u niggas stop judging music that is not for you.

100% Cosign the bolded
 
no she didnt sell out. the same folk complaining she went pop wasnt buying her shit or supporting her when she was rappin all nyish... She did what was best for her career and put her at her spot. She would be in queens rappin on the block bitter as hell is she aint switch to the character she is now.... her female pop fanbase is who buys her records. make singles for them. Hell everyone else hoping u fall off anyway. fuckem and keep doing what u doin
 
Because people dont like seeing their favorite artist lose their souls... Its not like that music she is making is unique, or defining or anything. It is obviously just a v line to the mainstream, and your bound to alienate alot of fans when you make career decisions like that.

Its more of a disapointment than a hate
 
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I think now she is being pressured into those pop songs... cuz I watched the "beez n da trap" and da video wit Chris brown and she seems way more comfortable in dat video then in da "stupid hoe" video or da "starships" video...

in da beginning of da year I saw she was getting alot of flack 4 doing what she was doing... she has toned it way down...
 
usmarin3;4490135 said:
There is a difference in naturally evolving and becoming popular (see Outkast), and there is blatantly selling out (see Nicki). You can obviously tell the chick sold the fuck out.

1. She bit Lady Gaga's crazy outfits

2. She went and use all of Lady Gaga's producers after Lady Gaga dropped them

3. She went and use Lady Gaga's choreographer/show designer after Lady Gaga dropped her

4. She switched up her music and started making electro pop music like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna (same producers)

You can tell when a artist naturally evolve, plus the bitch can't sing and her music is horrible period. I could see if she could sing and perform, it comes off as forced and corny to me.

You know how many artist use the same choreographers and producers? That shit happens all the time...
 
hnic1978;4492137 said:
Man it took Nicki Minaj for yall to finally realize how good of an album 808's is....But on the subject i think its funny how u MEN are debating over this. I heard the first album, recognized that it WAS a balance between hip hop & pop and gave it to my wife and daughter cuz that album was strictly for them. I say why not do pop. Shes a woman and women around the globe gravitate to that Super Bass and Starships shit. Hell i just mute the damn TV and enjoy. Shit let her get money and u niggas stop judging music that is not for you.

I said this exact shit in another thread a day or 2 ago...these songs are tailor made for girls and women...I don't know one chick, even females who HATE Nicki Minaj, that didn't like Super Bass and don't know that Starships song...niggas act like EVERY rapper has to make music specifically for them...I mean for fucks sake Super Bass done turned 2 little girls into stars because of a youtube video of them singing the song...Taylor Swift performing Super Bass at her own shows...the shit works
 
aint nothing wrong with making pop songs...... do you ...however ...what i dont fuck with is wack songs ...and she has quite a few ..... but really i never got the hype with the chick anyhow ... she came out the gate on her first album doing poppy songs ..so how can she be a sale out? i never really checked for her before young money aside from a few freestyle videos .... does she have some tapes or something that are drastically different than wht shes doing now?
 
She can do waterver she wants.Do hip hop and do pop.But yo we know how hip hop heads are.When you go pop you can´t come back like you were.This bitch had the crown on her head and gave it u to do pop.Stupid ass move.
 

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