Reason Debates VIII: blatalian vs Ghostdenithegawd voting thread (blatalian wins)

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blatalian

Hip-hop is like all other music genres in that many people are drawn in by tha music, delivery, rhythm, etc etc. With this being said there is one BIG difference between hip-hop and mostly all other styles of music. Many, such as myself, were/are truly drawn in to what is being said. Hip-hop started off as street party music but quickly turned into an outlet for artists/MC's to put their story out there. They wanted people to know what was going on in their hood/environment. They wanted people to know why they were mad...when they were happy..what a day in their life is really like. This is what gets most artists their fan base...their die hard ride or die fans. Tha' fact that you can relate to much, if not all of what THEY'RE rhyming about. This is one of tha reasons why it is definitely a must for any "respected" MC to write his/her own rhymes. Tha connection between a fan and an artist is usually as simple as feeling where that MC is coming from on any given track. With pop artists or even R&B artists it's not so much what's being said/sung about as it is how it's being sung. You can be "singing" about something that should really "touch you" but if it's being sung in a horrible pitch you're not going to listen twice. With hip-hop for tha most part it's what's being said first...then comes tha beat and how's it being said. In my honest opinion ANY MC that doesn't write their own songs (and I'm not talking about taking a recommendation here or there or a bar here or there...I'm talking full blown "my ghostwriter wrote this whole track and I'm just gonna spit it in my voice" shit) should be considered a pop artist and not an MC. I don't care if you're telling people to "Snap your fingers and move your hips like this!" or if you're telling people to "Fight tha powers that be!"...let them be YOUR OWN words...Peace

Ghostdenithegawd

Record sales aint lie the 90's no more rappers have to reacha wider audience to sell what better way to do that is bring in other talented people from other walks of life to put consistantly good music together

beyonce doesnt write her songs she has ateam of writers who help produceher sound but that piece of work couldnt be performed at the level it is from nobody else other than beyonce you cant take from the artist becase what they

put together isnt 100% there aslong as they have a majority of the input of the end product whats the problem you dont make anything in this life by your self , you didnt come into this life by your self so why should we hold a standard that rappers have to soley craft there sound when we are trying to reach the masses

how are they expected to reach millions with one point of view musicly
 
Round 2

blatalian

Record sales....or tha lack there of doesn't justify using a ghostwriter as an MC. Jay Z and Eminem continue to be some of tha highest selling artists in hip-hop but yet they write their own rhymes. Pop artists don't write their own lyrics (at least tha majority don't) because their talent and skill is their voice. Tha pitch they sing in and tha harmony they create. MC's skill and talent are tha words they put together in a rhyme...that paint a picture of life as THEY see it. Not as somebody else does. Putting together a cohesive thought/idea in rhyme form is tha main goal (or at least it should be) of a hip-hop artist. Being able to recite a rhyme that someone else wrote is not a skill. That's something most people are taught and learned thru out elementary school. If an MC wants to be taken seriously in tha craft THEY chose then they should not short change that craft by simply reciting someone else's thoughts. Say what YOU mean and mean what YOU say...Peace
 
im not doing this again, this was a shore and it was clear no one gave a fuck, but IF I decide to do it again there has to be penalties for skipping out after volunteering to do this.
 
5th Letter;8267103 said:
im not doing this again, this was a shore and it was clear no one gave a fuck, but IF I decide to do it again there has to be penalties for skipping out after volunteering to do this.

I feel you bruh...I was looking forward to really debating too...fuck it...I showed up for each round so I did my part....Peace
 
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