Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

[aneed123]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

whats wrong with my post

 

[CapitalB]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

whats wrong with my post

cause hindsiight is 20/20

u made it out thats fine and dandy..

but we go sir here and act like by the time a nogga figures this out it aint already too late??

i mean yeh niggas is fuckups.. but so is everybody else.

BUT WR’RE TARGETED..

i dont think u niggas truly grasp the weight of that shit..

blak was jus postin about it on this very page..

everybody does crime..

muthafuckas is literally gettin rich sellin weed now and niggas still sittin in jail for it..

Hugh Hefner PimPd and Pandered into his fortune..

we aint doin shit nobody else is doin but we persecuted and prosecuted for it..

so lets jus call it what the fuck it is..

its illegal to be black..

white kid steals they call his parents he gets picked up from the store.. black kid goin in the back of a police car goin to the station gettin fingerprinted and picture taken..

why is that? to get him in the system..

i reconditioned the way i think on my own..

i realize my reality at the time was built on a lie.. i wanted to be mad at my mom but how could i be mad at her and not my grandmother for raisin her like that?? and hell if imma be mad at her then i gotta be mad at my great grandma..

they can only teach what they know..

u niggas is outside lookin in castin judgement and that shit irks me..

u dont realize ur poor til ur around an environment that isnt..

u said it, the game is fuckin rigged.. aint no but aftet that unless its “but i made it”

ill congratulate a nigga who made it but ull never see me admonish someone for failing when the system IS DESIGNED for them to do jus that.

u niggas come off as real gumps when topics like this arise..

 

[CapitalB]

think about this..

they about to start prosecuting kids for fighting in middleschool..

poor black boys and girls bout to get ran through the system..

but let me me guess “shouldnt be fighting.” right!

my nigga when u hungry what are u also?!

irritable right!?

these kids get hit wit so many obstacles amd they waitin for them to crack and soon as they do theygood as gone..

these muthafuckas know what they doin..

amd u smarty art ass niggas know too but to sit here and try and place blame or judge.. man thats some fuck nigga shit..

my nigga soon as u get a record u as good as done..

u black.. u a male.. and u got a record all before u hit highschool “but” they suppose to know better!!? smmfh

FOH wit that shit..

 

[blakfyahking]

stats don't lie and stats record black people doing a disproportionate amount of crime which only fuels greater police presence and pressure on our communities which then in turn adds more to those stats which justifies the greater police pressure which keeps the cycle rolling

is the bolded really true tho?

or is there already an increased police presence that seems to find more black people who commit crime?

looking at stats from the drug war, technically there are more white drug users and dealers just by increased population numbers vs. black folks

why aren't those same numbers reflected in the prison population?

are u really suggesting that black people as a whole commit more crime for the 13% black free population to justify the 50% black confined population?

Black people do the most crime but that only means we get caught and convicted more Maybe whites do sell and use more drugs. They are the largest population so that assumption would make sense HOWEVER since they don't get caught and convicted as much we can never really know WHICH race is actually doing more crime. We can only know who gets caught more, Stats reflect who is getting caught not who is actually doing more crime

Why don't whites get caught as much??? because the police don't scrutinize them as much..... why??? because those communities don't give them as much reason to. white people sell and use drugs but they don't turn their neighborhoods into shooting galleries in other words it's the concentration of murders and violence in black communities that draw increased police pressure which leads to higher rates of imprisonment. On top of that black people are stigmatized as criminals always have been but today we play into the stigmatization our youth fuels this native image by their violent stupid behavior.

One of the most violent groups in America is probably outlaw bikers, these are mostly white male gangs but outlaw bikers don't murder or assault nearly as much people as gangsta disciples, vice lords or the various blood and Crip organizations,

it's hard to believe the bolded when majority of the offenses cats are locked up for are nonviolent drug crimes

white people do sell and use drugs more..........but police presence isn't in their neighborhood at the same rates as black neighborhoods.........yet u are naive enough to really think that black folks are not targeted for other reasons

SMH @ u thinking it's just cuz black people are more violent

there are too many instances where white people have been violent and those same white folks have been treated better than black folks when being arrested, tried and sentenced

the Bureau of Prisons shows as of 25 Nov 17 that majority of folks in prison are there for drugs..........all the other crimes are broken out and don't even compare in number to say police only care about violent crime
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

this chart below shows that currently the incarcerated population is almost 40% black even tho if u look at latest census as of 2010 black people are only approximately 12% - 14% of the entire US population
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

even if u reasonably consider a pretty big margin of error in those stats, there is no way u can't be alarmed at a 40% prison population coming from a 12-14% overall population

at some point the numbers have got to make u realize something is wrong

 

[aneed123]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

whats wrong with my post

cause hindsiight is 20/20

u made it out thats fine and dandy..

but we go sir here and act like by the time a nogga figures this out it aint already too late??

i mean yeh niggas is fuckups.. but so is everybody else.

BUT WR’RE TARGETED..

i dont think u niggas truly grasp the weight of that shit..

blak was jus postin about it on this very page..

everybody does crime..

muthafuckas is literally gettin rich sellin weed now and niggas still sittin in jail for it..

Hugh Hefner PimPd and Pandered into his fortune..

we aint doin shit nobody else is doin but we persecuted and prosecuted for it..

so lets jus call it what the fuck it is..

its illegal to be black..

white kid steals they call his parents he gets picked up from the store.. black kid goin in the back of a police car goin to the station gettin fingerprinted and picture taken..

why is that? to get him in the system..

i reconditioned the way i think on my own..

i realize my reality at the time was built on a lie.. i wanted to be mad at my mom but how could i be mad at her and not my grandmother for raisin her like that?? and hell if imma be mad at her then i gotta be mad at my great grandma..

they can only teach what they know..

u niggas is outside lookin in castin judgement and that shit irks me..

u dont realize ur poor til ur around an environment that isnt..

u said it, the game is fuckin rigged.. aint no but aftet that unless its “but i made it”

ill congratulate a nigga who made it but ull never see me admonish someone for failing when the system IS DESIGNED for them to do jus that.

u niggas come off as real gumps when topics like this arise..

i hear u. but at the end of the day if u make a choice to do something and get caught u gotta accept responsibility and eat the consequences... u cant blame

 

[7figz]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

whats wrong with my post

cause hindsiight is 20/20

u made it out thats fine and dandy..

but we go sir here and act like by the time a nogga figures this out it aint already too late??

i mean yeh niggas is fuckups.. but so is everybody else.

BUT WR’RE TARGETED..

i dont think u niggas truly grasp the weight of that shit..

blak was jus postin about it on this very page..

everybody does crime..

muthafuckas is literally gettin rich sellin weed now and niggas still sittin in jail for it..

Hugh Hefner PimPd and Pandered into his fortune..

we aint doin shit nobody else is doin but we persecuted and prosecuted for it..

so lets jus call it what the fuck it is..

its illegal to be black..

white kid steals they call his parents he gets picked up from the store.. black kid goin in the back of a police car goin to the station gettin fingerprinted and picture taken..

why is that? to get him in the system..

i reconditioned the way i think on my own..

i realize my reality at the time was built on a lie.. i wanted to be mad at my mom but how could i be mad at her and not my grandmother for raisin her like that?? and hell if imma be mad at her then i gotta be mad at my great grandma..

they can only teach what they know..

u niggas is outside lookin in castin judgement and that shit irks me..

u dont realize ur poor til ur around an environment that isnt..

u said it, the game is fuckin rigged.. aint no but aftet that unless its “but i made it”

ill congratulate a nigga who made it but ull never see me admonish someone for failing when the system IS DESIGNED for them to do jus that.

u niggas come off as real gumps when topics like this arise..

i hear u. but at the end of the day if u make a choice to do something and get caught u gotta accept responsibility and eat the consequences... u cant blame

Bruh, MFs just explained the last 2 pages for you and you still on the same shit. Even you partially explained the shit in your own post. You sayin the system is "rigged", how the fuck can you not hold also hold it accountable ? smh - lost cause.

 

[CapitalB]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

whats wrong with my post

cause hindsiight is 20/20

u made it out thats fine and dandy..

but we go sir here and act like by the time a nogga figures this out it aint already too late??

i mean yeh niggas is fuckups.. but so is everybody else.

BUT WR’RE TARGETED..

i dont think u niggas truly grasp the weight of that shit..

blak was jus postin about it on this very page..

everybody does crime..

muthafuckas is literally gettin rich sellin weed now and niggas still sittin in jail for it..

Hugh Hefner PimPd and Pandered into his fortune..

we aint doin shit nobody else is doin but we persecuted and prosecuted for it..

so lets jus call it what the fuck it is..

its illegal to be black..

white kid steals they call his parents he gets picked up from the store.. black kid goin in the back of a police car goin to the station gettin fingerprinted and picture taken..

why is that? to get him in the system..

i reconditioned the way i think on my own..

i realize my reality at the time was built on a lie.. i wanted to be mad at my mom but how could i be mad at her and not my grandmother for raisin her like that?? and hell if imma be mad at her then i gotta be mad at my great grandma..

they can only teach what they know..

u niggas is outside lookin in castin judgement and that shit irks me..

u dont realize ur poor til ur around an environment that isnt..

u said it, the game is fuckin rigged.. aint no but aftet that unless its “but i made it”

ill congratulate a nigga who made it but ull never see me admonish someone for failing when the system IS DESIGNED for them to do jus that.

u niggas come off as real gumps when topics like this arise..

i hear u. but at the end of the day if u make a choice to do something and get caught u gotta accept responsibility and eat the consequences... u cant blame

system purposely starves u..

some will die slow..

others will steal food..

yo dyin slow ass in here is callin those who dare wanna eat a thief..

“yeh they starvin u but stealin is bad” ass nigga..

we thieves but meanwhile they GIVIN FOOD AWAY to every other ethnic group..

shame on us right!!?

we the criminal in this equation correct??

 

[CapitalB]

“u got a choice to sit here and starve like the rest of us.” ass nigga

 

[CapitalB]

and this what makes Denzel a cold piece of fuckin work..

wouldnt nobody play the lotto if there was never a winner..

same wit successful black people..

if not for niggas like Denzel we as a people wouldve said “fuck the system!” long time ago

the reason he’s fuckin winnin is so the rest will starve and “feed” off hope..

so this nigga is a “selected” muthafucka wit nerve to fix his fuckin mouth about the rejected-dejected.

some fuckin nerve.

i they could starve every last single one of us and get away wit it his bitch ass would be right wit everyone he calls himself bein critical of..

he’s part of the fuckin problem.

 

[LPast]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

 

[CapitalB]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

cause kids are fuckin perfect right!!?

or have the propensity to be?!

 

[CapitalB]

u niggas i swear!!? smmfh

 

[7figz]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right, do all that - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, lawyers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

 

[CapitalB]

“teach them about how life isnt fair.”

is basically teaching them to accept the shit..

“to starve”

less its a kid like me who says fuck it..

“if life aint fair fuck am i playin it that way for!!?”

u type niggas rather livea long nothin ass life..

me and my kind rather die a short glorius one.

to each they own..

dont call me a criminal i want call u a sucka ass nigga.

 

[LPast]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

1. Kids aren't perfect

I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

 

[7figz]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

1. Kids aren't perfect

I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

Where the fuck you gettin' this from ?

All we doing is calling the shit out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the fuckin system.

Fuck y'all talmbout ?

And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the fuck would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

Then MFs keep going back to some shit like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other fuckin' pages.

We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This shit is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

 

[LPast]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

1. Kids aren't perfect

I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

Where the fuck you gettin' this from ?

All we doing is calling the shit out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the fuckin system.

Fuck y'all talmbout ?

And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the fuck would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

Then MFs keep going back to some shit like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other fuckin' pages.

We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This shit is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

 

[7figz]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

1. Kids aren't perfect

I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

Where the fuck you gettin' this from ?

All we doing is calling the shit out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the fuckin system.

Fuck y'all talmbout ?

And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the fuck would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

Then MFs keep going back to some shit like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other fuckin' pages.

We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This shit is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

End of discussion - for you anyway.

Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.

 

[sunlord]

stats don't lie and stats record black people doing a disproportionate amount of crime which only fuels greater police presence and pressure on our communities which then in turn adds more to those stats which justifies the greater police pressure which keeps the cycle rolling

is the bolded really true tho?

or is there already an increased police presence that seems to find more black people who commit crime?

looking at stats from the drug war, technically there are more white drug users and dealers just by increased population numbers vs. black folks

why aren't those same numbers reflected in the prison population?

are u really suggesting that black people as a whole commit more crime for the 13% black free population to justify the 50% black confined population?

Black people do the most crime but that only means we get caught and convicted more Maybe whites do sell and use more drugs. They are the largest population so that assumption would make sense HOWEVER since they don't get caught and convicted as much we can never really know WHICH race is actually doing more crime. We can only know who gets caught more, Stats reflect who is getting caught not who is actually doing more crime

Why don't whites get caught as much??? because the police don't scrutinize them as much..... why??? because those communities don't give them as much reason to. white people sell and use drugs but they don't turn their neighborhoods into shooting galleries in other words it's the concentration of murders and violence in black communities that draw increased police pressure which leads to higher rates of imprisonment. On top of that black people are stigmatized as criminals always have been but today we play into the stigmatization our youth fuels this native image by their violent stupid behavior.

One of the most violent groups in America is probably outlaw bikers, these are mostly white male gangs but outlaw bikers don't murder or assault nearly as much people as gangsta disciples, vice lords or the various blood and Crip organizations,

it's hard to believe the bolded when majority of the offenses cats are locked up for are nonviolent drug crimes



white people do sell and use drugs more..........but police presence isn't in their neighborhood at the same rates as black neighborhoods.........yet u are naive enough to really think that black folks are not targeted for other reasons

SMH @ u thinking it's just cuz black people are more violent

there are too many instances where white people have been violent and those same white folks have been treated better than black folks when being arrested, tried and sentenced

the Bureau of Prisons shows as of 25 Nov 17 that majority of folks in prison are there for drugs..........all the other crimes are broken out and don't even compare in number to say police only care about violent crime
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

this chart below shows that currently the incarcerated population is almost 40% black even tho if u look at latest census as of 2010 black people are only approximately 12% - 14% of the entire US population
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

even if u reasonably consider a pretty big margin of error in those stats, there is no way u can't be alarmed at a 40% prison population coming from a 12-14% overall population

at some point the numbers have got to make u realize something is wrong

SMH, You still don't get it AND i think you might be the one that's a little naive because the mindset of law enforcement is that the use and or sales of drugs is intrinsically linked to murder and violence so therefore by stopping drugs you stop violence and other degenerate social behavior. Yes whites do lots of drugs but there neighborhoods are safer than ours.

Never said police don't target blacks more however it is exactly because too many black communities have become crime ridden and violent that we give them more justification to target us. AND YES i am saddened by those numbers because it means that clearly we know the police are targeting us yet we continue to fall into their hands.

 

[LPast]

That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

1. Kids aren't perfect

I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

Where the fuck you gettin' this from ?

All we doing is calling the shit out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the fuckin system.

Fuck y'all talmbout ?

And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the fuck would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

Then MFs keep going back to some shit like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other fuckin' pages.

We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This shit is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

End of discussion - for you anyway.

Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.

If it's broken, who is going to fix it?