Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

[7figz]

crackers rigged the game but got damn have some accountability for ur actions. its a lot of aint shit be ur friend instead of ur parent ass moms and dads out there.

That's obvious tho. The only people in here justifying unaccountability are the people not holding the system accountable.

 

[7figz]

stats don't lie and stats record black people doing a disproportionate amount of crime which only fuels greater police presence and pressure on our communities which then in turn adds more to those stats which justifies the greater police pressure which keeps the cycle rolling

is the bolded really true tho?

or is there already an increased police presence that seems to find more black people who commit crime?

looking at stats from the drug war, technically there are more white drug users and dealers just by increased population numbers vs. black folks

why aren't those same numbers reflected in the prison population?

are u really suggesting that black people as a whole commit more crime for the 13% black free population to justify the 50% black confined population?

That dude's such a self-hatin coon that he probably really is suggesting that.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i think this argument will always go sideways...

niggas talking about the same people but different people at the same time.

we are allowing fukk niggas to live amongst us and we hide and protect them. that allows the system to harrass us all.

if we have our own system...where we punish those that help them do their job of harassing then all the problem is on the system. and we can say it without a doubt an make corrections to stop it.

how you gonna stop some shit when you have judas ass niggas killing us from within?

 

[sunlord]

stats don't lie and stats record black people doing a disproportionate amount of crime which only fuels greater police presence and pressure on our communities which then in turn adds more to those stats which justifies the greater police pressure which keeps the cycle rolling

is the bolded really true tho?

or is there already an increased police presence that seems to find more black people who commit crime?

looking at stats from the drug war, technically there are more white drug users and dealers just by increased population numbers vs. black folks

why aren't those same numbers reflected in the prison population?

are u really suggesting that black people as a whole commit more crime for the 13% black free population to justify the 50% black confined population?

Black people do the most crime but that only means we get caught and convicted more Maybe whites do sell and use more drugs. They are the largest population so that assumption would make sense HOWEVER since they don't get caught and convicted as much we can never really know WHICH race is actually doing more crime. We can only know who gets caught more, Stats reflect who is getting caught not who is actually doing more crime

Why don't whites get caught as much??? because the police don't scrutinize them as much..... why??? because those communities don't give them as much reason to. white people sell and use drugs but they don't turn their neighborhoods into shooting galleries in other words it's the concentration of murders and violence in black communities that draw increased police pressure which leads to higher rates of imprisonment. On top of that black people are stigmatized as criminals always have been but today we play into the stigmatization our youth fuels this native image by their violent stupid behavior.

One of the most violent groups in America is probably outlaw bikers, these are mostly white male gangs but outlaw bikers don't murder or assault nearly as much people as gangsta disciples, vice lords or the various blood and Crip organizations,

 

[D. Morgan]

The nigga is really going all out for his right to blame white people for niggas fucking up

You definitely a coon.

The nigga is really going all out for his right to blame white people for niggas fucking up

Beta male problems

Now DL Hughley, Willie D, and Immortal Tech are beta males ?

Or maybe yall MFs just some Denzel worhsipping groupie MFs - beta male / faggots ?

You still dont get it.

Denzel is talking about a part of the problem that is often not spoken of within the black community : WHAT ARE THE VALUES THAT WE CAN TEACH OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS SO THAT THEY DONT END UP IN JAIL?

IS MATERIALISM LEADING US TO JAIL?

IS GREED LEADING US TO JAIL?

Is ENVY LEADING US TO JAIL?

see there are a lot of questions we can ask ourselves in order to stay away from jail. As far as im concerned i can understand stealing to get something to drink, eat and feed your children. I cannot understand dope dealing and gangbanging for MATERIAL STUFF!! I just cant. And thats what Denzel is talking about imo.

That being said AINT NO DUMBER THAN SOMEBODY FALLING INTO THE SAME TRAP OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

MATERIALISM is doing worse to the black community than druggs. I got out of that game cause the rules of the materialism game are made so i end up in jail.

I have chosen MINIMALISM. Goodbuye the malls and black friday. Goodbuye big car debt and maintenance. Goodbuye stuntin in the club and making it rain.Goodbuy stress and envy.

Black people should stay out materialism and go minimalism.

If you don't get the fuck outta here with that bullshit!!

That very thing is always talked about just cause the white media don't talk about it and put it at the forefront don't mean black people and organizations ain't talking about it.

You crazy as shit to type that garbage

 

[aneed123]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

 

[sunlord]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

oh boo fucking hoo.... so some black people are poor that does not justify doing crime especially violent crime. Generations ago black were even more poor but there was less violence among ourselves.... so the " oh i'm poor i didn't have another choice" can GTFOH.

NIGGAS today just have inferior moral stands and less disciple.

 

[aneed123]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

oh boo fucking hoo.... so some black people are poor that does not justify doing crime especially violent crime. Generations ago black were even more poor but there was less violence among ourselves.... so the " oh i'm poor i didn't have another choice" can GTFOH.

NIGGAS today just have inferior moral stands and less disciple.

nigga im agreein wit u. calm da fuck down.

 

[Huey_C]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

oh boo fucking hoo.... so some black people are poor that does not justify doing crime especially violent crime. Generations ago black were even more poor but there was less violence among ourselves.... so the " oh i'm poor i didn't have another choice" can GTFOH.

NIGGAS today just have inferior moral stands and less disciple.

nigga im agreein wit u. calm da fuck down.

U know that's zombie, right?

 

[sunlord]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

oh boo fucking hoo.... so some black people are poor that does not justify doing crime especially violent crime. Generations ago black were even more poor but there was less violence among ourselves.... so the " oh i'm poor i didn't have another choice" can GTFOH.

NIGGAS today just have inferior moral stands and less disciple.

nigga im agreein wit u. calm da fuck down.

I know i was just expressing myself

 

[sunlord]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

oh boo fucking hoo.... so some black people are poor that does not justify doing crime especially violent crime. Generations ago black were even more poor but there was less violence among ourselves.... so the " oh i'm poor i didn't have another choice" can GTFOH.

NIGGAS today just have inferior moral stands and less disciple.

nigga im agreein wit u. calm da fuck down.

U know that's zombie, right?

YEAH SO??

 

[7figz]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

So to your answer your question again, of course a criminal is responsible for committing a crime. But, if the system has a hand in it, or is penalizing people differently based on race, then the system is responsible too.

We hold guardians responsible for the environment they put their children in, schools responsible for the environments they put their students in, employers responsible for the work conditions they put their employees in, but we "can't blame the system" ?

 

[sunlord]

I am gonna ask this but don't chew me out. Lets say u born into a fucked up poor situation. Poor as heel in the hood. Ur environment isn't ur fault. Its the system white folk created to fuck u over and hold down the black community... I agree. Now lets look at the this part. Nigga start hustling and selling drugs or kicking in doors for money or a female starts stripping then graduates to prostitution/ad scamming... Both are willfully breaking the law for money correct? Ive heard many a nigga say I aint working at no McDonald's or Walmart.... cool But if either get arrested and locked up aint no sympathy u just got caught up. So is it the systems fault they get locked up?

So to your answer your question again, of course a criminal is responsible for committing a crime. But, if the system has a hand in it, or is penalizing people differently based on rase, then the system is responsible too.

We hold guardians responsible for the environment they put their children in, schools responsible for the environments they put their students in, employers responsible for the work conditions they put their employees in, but we "can't blame the system" ?

So black people are children and dependents/slaves of the government??? you don't see how philosophically your way of thinking infantilizes black people yet YOU have the nerve to call me coon.

GOVERNMENT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU. Government is not your father or mother and even if you have a government job government is not responsible for your moral/personal decisions. Committing a crime especially a violent one is a moral decision. This society DOES not operate under a communist or collectivist culture what moral choice you make is your own fucking fault and not the fault of the state.

what hand does the system have in making one black man murder another??? did the system force the killer to pull the trigger??? no

 

[7figz]

Wasn't responding to you, you coconut curry coon MF.

 

[CapitalB]

this fuckin thread again!!? i tried ignorin this shit..

log on see 200+ new posts..

thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

so what do i do!!?

my dumbass say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

first post aneed..

bad post.. but not horrible..

then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

yeh now im pissed..

im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

 

[sunlord]

Wasn't responding to you, you coconut curry coon MF.

curry coconut is fucking disgusting.... and what are you a collard greens and cornbread soul food coon. You're a fucking slave with a slave victimology

 

[sunlord]

If you are a criminal at least be man enough to own that shit... if you are pimping or selling dope or robbing banks nigga that's what you are doing. MAN THE FUCK UP and own that shit and all the consequences that come with it don't be a fucking delusional slave who blames everything on the white man or his mama or poverty or the system.

blame your fucking self

Now if you are getting money and doing things the right way then you deserve your fucking respect it wasn't the system that helped you it was your own fucking work and genius.

 

[7figz]

Wasn't responding to you, you coconut curry coon MF.

curry coconut is fucking disgusting.... and what are you a collard greens and cornbread soul food coon. You're a fucking slave with a slave victimology

Nah bitch boy, I got Island roots too but not the slave mentality you got.

I definitely aint cut from the same cloth as you self-hating, sellout MFs. Stop seeking conversation wit me tho, batty man. You startin to look like the "natural faggot" you claim the white man to be.

 

[sunlord]

Wasn't responding to you, you coconut curry coon MF.

curry coconut is fucking disgusting.... and what are you a collard greens and cornbread soul food coon. You're a fucking slave with a slave victimology

Nah bitch boy, i got Island roots too but not the slave mentality you got.

I definitely aint cut from the same cloth as some you self-hating, sellout MFs. Stop seeking conversation wit me tho, batty man. You startin to look like the "natural faggot" you claim the white man to be.

nigga you cut your mother panty crotches that is the only cloth you cut from..... fassy.

conversation with you??? no pussy this was about stopping the spread of your fuckery niggas like you lead black people astray with your poisonous perspectives .

 

[7figz]

Not gonna really go into it, but it doesnt start home. Lets say a baby is born today, in 2017. The system has been trying to fuck that babies parents and destroy their sense of right of wrong for all of their lives. Now in some cases the system succeeds and in other cases it does not. In a case where it succeeds, the destruction of the baby born in 2017 started way before he or she was born into the "home"

They dont hear you tho. They think you're not trying to take responsibility, or you must jobless, in and out of jail, etc... etc...