Damn Usher burning ladies out here.

[Fosheezy]

How the f ppl catching some shit that dies with antibacterial soap m so easily anyways... isn't that shit hard to contract? Niggas must not be showering or something before sex they just hoppin straight in lol .

No matter how minor the condition is tho the shit is stigmatized because nodody want a "disease" down there.

I find it interesting though even something like the common cold virus cannot be cured but is still not classified as a disease. Basically symptoms appear every so often but it's never really cured

 

[The Divine Visitor]

When the ladies have finished being raw dogged by Usher:

Damn Kevin Hart got caught cheating, R. Kelly has a sex cult, and Usher is giving women that napalm cooch. Only person that won this week is O.J.

Drop your jokes.

Crazy how all that news came out on 1 day. Coincidence? Lol not saying it's a conspiracy but I wonder if they held all these bomb shells to be dropped at once.

 

[Max.]

LOL at 10million lawsuit for catchin herpes

I would actually consider injecting myself with an AIDs needle for 10mill

Huh

 

[jetlifebih]

So much drama over bullshit. Might as well say having acne is life ruining:
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa8nb/did-big-pharma-create-the-herpes-stigma-for-profit

Ok "I got the herp" post

Ain't no just acne bih

Keep drinking that corporately-created, artificial panic laden Kool Aid. We have evidence herpes infections have existed since Roman times yet the stigma associated with it dates to the 1970s...right about the time the first antiviral meds against it began to be heavily marketed towards the general population. Coincidence? Hmmmm

The prevalence of herpesvirus in humans is endemic. The World Health Organization estimates two thirds of the world's population under the age of 50 have it:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/herpes/en/

Judging by pure mathematical odds most of the posters here in the IC have it...but of course looking through this thread you'd think this was the only population on Earth untouched by herpes viruses.

And I say "viruses" because it's a family. A family that includes shit like the Zoster virus that causes shingles. But I guarantee none of you would be clowning Usher if he has a shingles outbreak, even though the virus that causes it is almost it's genetic cousin. Shit, when my patients had shingle attacks I treated them with the same exact medication I prescribed for genital herpes attacks: Valacyclovir.

HSV stigma is a purely manufactured social panic. 90% of the people that have it show no signs or symptoms. It's literally only dangerous if you're immunosupressed or if you have an outbreak during pregnancy. Gonorrhea and chlamydia are a 100 times more destructive yet not treated with near this same amount of fear.

Acne is a perfect analogue: it's an often painful skin disease caused by the overgrowth of a microbe (Propionibacterium acnes) in hair follicles, it's prevalence in young people is near 90% and we just accept it as a given that everyone at some point had it:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjd.12149/abstract;jsessionid=83CBB425CC30408D7FE49727490376DF.f04t02

I just described HSV. Yet one is universally stigmatized while the other, even though it has about the same level of health risk, is not. Explain this silliness to me.

Signed: a medical doctor who treats sexual illnesses and is tired of patients thinking their lives are over because of a misguided cultural bullshit.

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

 

[Qiv_Owan]

So much drama over bullshit. Might as well say having acne is life ruining:
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa8nb/did-big-pharma-create-the-herpes-stigma-for-profit

Ok "I got the herp" post

Ain't no just acne bih

Keep drinking that corporately-created, artificial panic laden Kool Aid. We have evidence herpes infections have existed since Roman times yet the stigma associated with it dates to the 1970s...right about the time the first antiviral meds against it began to be heavily marketed towards the general population. Coincidence? Hmmmm

The prevalence of herpesvirus in humans is endemic. The World Health Organization estimates two thirds of the world's population under the age of 50 have it:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/herpes/en/

Judging by pure mathematical odds most of the posters here in the IC have it...but of course looking through this thread you'd think this was the only population on Earth untouched by herpes viruses.

And I say "viruses" because it's a family. A family that includes shit like the Zoster virus that causes shingles. But I guarantee none of you would be clowning Usher if he has a shingles outbreak, even though the virus that causes it is almost it's genetic cousin. Shit, when my patients had shingle attacks I treated them with the same exact medication I prescribed for genital herpes attacks: Valacyclovir.

HSV stigma is a purely manufactured social panic. 90% of the people that have it show no signs or symptoms. It's literally only dangerous if you're immunosupressed or if you have an outbreak during pregnancy. Gonorrhea and chlamydia are a 100 times more destructive yet not treated with near this same amount of fear.

Acne is a perfect analogue: it's an often painful skin disease caused by the overgrowth of a microbe (Propionibacterium acnes) in hair follicles, it's prevalence in young people is near 90% and we just accept it as a given that everyone at some point had it:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjd.12149/abstract;jsessionid=83CBB425CC30408D7FE49727490376DF.f04t02

I just described HSV. Yet one is universally stigmatized while the other, even though it has about the same level of health risk, is not. Explain this silliness to me.

Signed: a medical doctor who treats sexual illnesses and is tired of patients thinking their lives are over because of a misguided cultural bullshit.

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

My nigga hit us with the intro, body, and conclusion

 

[Sandinista]

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

All I see is a bunch of uneducated bullshit.

I don't need you to tell me "why" HSV is stigmatized. I know why. My entire argument was that it SHOULDN'T be stigmatized because HSV is 1. relatively harmless 2. incredibly common and 3. Associated with a behavior that EVERYONE practices.

This song and dance that "only nasty motherfuckers" get it is exactly STDs are at epidemic levels in this country. Niggaz think only "nasty ass" people have it, meet a "nice looking" girl or boy, fuck'em raw and then get the Dick Ooze a week later and wonder "what are the odds!!!!"

You can get Herp after only one time. Ain't no "magic number" of raw coochs you gotta hit to get it. I've treated grandmas with it...schoolgirls...Muslim chicks...other doctors. There's no discrimination. Most of them weren't "nasty" motherfuckers.

Stigmatizing the herp because you get it from sex is also asinine because it's not limited to sexual activity at all. It's just the most common way it gets spread.

You can get it in your fingers (Herpetic Whitlow):

...and not just from fingering "dirty bitches" either. Dentists are famous for getting it in their fingers from tiny cuts they get while working.

You can get herpes in your body from contact sports like wrestling...it's called Herpes

gladiatorum:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_gladiatorum

Quick: you think dudes should be able to sue wrestling opponents when they get herpes in their backs and necks after a bout? Would you dump your girl if she got herpes in her finger?

You think condoms protect you from herpes? They don't. They just reduce the risk. You can get herpes at any point your skin touches infected skin...this means you can get herpes in the base of your cock, your taint and in your balls since no condoms cover those areas:

You keep saying shit like "anyone who says it's a skin condition has the herp" as if it's some smart, clever shit obliviously missing the point that YOU probably have that shit. I probably have it. Most Americans have it. Specially if you Black since blacks have much higher rates of herpes than whites or Hispanics. By some estimates as much as 48% of all black women are infected with HSV:
http://yourblackworld.net/2012/08/31/cdc-nearly-half-of-all-black-women-have-genital-herpes/

You ready to give up fucking with half of all

Black women? Didn't think so.

But that's not why I'm posting this shit. I'm posting it because this is what I did for years: educating ignorant ass people about sexual infections. From the looks of this board my work is not yet done.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

imma sterilize my posts after posting

 

[dalyricalbandit]

LOL at 10million lawsuit for catchin herpes

I would actually consider injecting myself with an AIDs needle for 10mill

 

[jetlifebih]

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

All I see is a bunch of uneducated bullshit.

I don't need you to tell me "why" HSV is stigmatized. I know why. My entire argument was that it SHOULDN'T be stigmatized because HSV is 1. relatively harmless 2. incredibly common and 3. Associated with a behavior that EVERYONE practices.

This song and dance that "only nasty motherfuckers" get it is exactly STDs are at epidemic levels in this country. Niggaz think only "nasty ass" people have it, meet a "nice looking" girl or boy, fuck'em raw and then get the Dick Ooze a week later and wonder "what are the odds!!!!"

You can get Herp after only one time. Ain't no "magic number" of raw coochs you gotta hit to get it. I've treated grandmas with it...schoolgirls...Muslim chicks...other doctors. There's no discrimination. Most of them weren't "nasty" motherfuckers.

Stigmatizing the herp because you get it from sex is also asinine because it's not limited to sexual activity at all. It's just the most common way it gets spread.

You can get it in your fingers (Herpetic Whitlow):

...and not just from fingering "dirty bitches" either. Dentists are famous for getting it in their fingers from tiny cuts they get while working.

You can get herpes in your body from contact sports like wrestling...it's called Herpes

gladiatorum:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_gladiatorum

Quick: you think dudes should be able to sue wrestling opponents when they get herpes in their backs and necks after a bout? Would you dump your girl if she got herpes in her finger?

You think condoms protect you from herpes? They don't. They just reduce the risk. You can get herpes at any point your skin touches infected skin...this means you can get herpes in the base of your cock, your taint and in your balls since no condoms cover those areas:

You keep saying shit like "anyone who says it's a skin condition has the herp" as if it's some smart, clever shit obliviously missing the point that YOU probably have that shit. I probably have it. Most Americans have it. Specially if you Black since blacks have much higher rates of herpes than whites or Hispanics. By some estimates as much as 48% of all black women are infected with HSV:
http://yourblackworld.net/2012/08/31/cdc-nearly-half-of-all-black-women-have-genital-herpes/

You ready to give up fucking with half of all

Black women? Didn't think so.

But that's not why I'm posting this shit. I'm posting it because this is what I did for years: educating ignorant ass people about sexual infections. From the looks of this board my work is not yet done.

You asked why is it stigmatized again and I told you

I said twice in my post that the exception is catching the herps while not being nasty and I defined and gave examples of it....

Your right you can get herp after one time!! That's my point...riddle me this are the majority of herpes cases from long term monogamous sex unprotected or casual sexual encounters unprotected ????are the majority of herpes cases from people who only had 1 sexual partner?? Imo casual sex is nasty ...and partly because of stds

And na fam I don't got that shit I get tested twice a year

Not stigmatized for sex it's stigmatized for irresponsible behavior ie testing , protection eventho it ain't 100%, and unprotected casual sex

Most blacks are reported to have it...as you stated many people don't know they have it and doctors won't test for it unless you request it the majority of times...so I know more cacs got the herps by a larger population and then add poor hygiene into it and you got a fuckin problem

I would never give up on my queens but I don't plan on dating half of the population of black women but I agree whole heartedly there needs to be much more education because that's the root of the issue but the nastiness needs to be shamed

 

[Stew]

Yo spoiler that shit! Wtf

 

[TheGOAT]

LOL at 10million lawsuit for catchin herpes

I would actually consider injecting myself with an AIDs needle for 10mill

Eh i already had my kids and lived a good life

I would consider takin the bug for 10Milli to leave my kids

 

[White_Owl_Willie]

Bout to be a shit storm for Mr. Raymond. Herp 1 & 2 and HPV are 2 of the sneakiest infections/viruses out there. There doesn't need to be any lesions/bumps visible for them to be spread, condoms don't fully protect, and a high percentage of folks don't experience symptoms. That's a potent recipe for package passing. Especially as people's body counts rise.

Pretty much why I stopped all the "sport fuckin", too much shit out here and I'm a paranoid brotha.

Usher knew what he had though and kept fuckin the chick raw, so he's dirty for that.

 

[Mseries_]

Does chilli have herpes too? I think Diddy got herpes as well, he used to give usher that 2nd hand cooch back in the day, when usher was 16, prolly why usher likes older women now.

 

[PureYang]

"chicken pox" is also herpes.

Enjoy!

 

[Kat]

 

[jetlifebih]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

 

[Sandinista]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Tell us the "harm" that Herpes causes then. In detail.

It's painful and it looks ugly. That's as much harm as acne or a boil.

Herpes is only dangerous if you are

1. Immunicompromised (advanced HIV, chemotherapy or genetic disease that fucks withyour immune system). If you're immunocompromised it can become disseminated and cause meningitis, cerebritis or blood infections. Same danger as shingles or any other bacterial infection.

2. Pregnant: your fetus can become infected if you have an outbreak during pregnancy or birth. Same danger as BV, gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Beyond that the only "harm" HSV causes is the psychological harm inflicted on millions of people who don't have anything more serious than mono and are forced to live their whole lives in shame.

 

[Kat]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Just a reminder not to get caught up in the hype. We are conditioned to believe what certain powers want us to believe, and its not always in our best interest. How many people you know think or thought weed is the devils lettuce that leads to serious drug abuse? Same concept of conditioning the minds of the masses.

 

[jetlifebih]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Tell us the "harm" that Herpes causes then. In detail.

It's painful and it looks ugly. That's as much harm as acne or a boil.

Herpes is only dangerous if you are

1. Immunicompromised (advanced HIV, chemotherapy or genetic disease that fucks withyour immune system). If you're immunocompromised it can become disseminated and cause meningitis, cerebritis or blood infections. Same danger as shingles or any other bacterial infection.

2. Pregnant: your fetus can become infected if you have an outbreak during pregnancy or birth. Same danger as BV, gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Beyond that the only "harm" HSV causes is the psychological harm inflicted on millions of people who don't have anything more serious than mono and are forced to live their whole lives in shame.

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Just a reminder not to get caught up in the hype. We are conditioned to believe what certain powers want us to believe, and its not always in our best interest. How many people you know think or thought weed is the devils lettuce that leads to serious drug abuse? Same concept of conditioning the minds of the masses.

I think it's clear we are speaking from 2 different aspects and to different populations....

I am speaking to the majority who are having irresponsible sex...right...because the disease is transmitted primarily through unprotected intercourse between two people having sex for the first time right? One night stands right?

Not a long term monogamous boyfriend and girl or even girlfriend girlfriend or boyfriend boyfriend relationship , not dentist doing dental work, not touching door handles, as you stated ,sexually is the most COMMON way it is spread...why are we speaking to the minority when the majority is the problem??

And you are speaking to the super minority dentist who are doing dental work, the boy or girl who gets cheated on even though they remain faithful, or the dirty door knob....a very very small population...

And @kat I feel you but I really can't see the importance behind making the herp negatively stigmatized and maybe that's intended but people have to be more sexually responsible and health conscious...getting tested for everything regularly....health is wealth

 

[onetoughmiracle]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Tell us the "harm" that Herpes causes then. In detail.

It's painful and it looks ugly. That's as much harm as acne or a boil.

Herpes is only dangerous if you are

1. Immunicompromised (advanced HIV, chemotherapy or genetic disease that fucks withyour immune system). If you're immunocompromised it can become disseminated and cause meningitis, cerebritis or blood infections. Same danger as shingles or any other bacterial infection.

2. Pregnant: your fetus can become infected if you have an outbreak during pregnancy or birth. Same danger as BV, gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Beyond that the only "harm" HSV causes is the psychological harm inflicted on millions of people who don't have anything more serious than mono and are forced to live their whole lives in shame.

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Just a reminder not to get caught up in the hype. We are conditioned to believe what certain powers want us to believe, and its not always in our best interest. How many people you know think or thought weed is the devils lettuce that leads to serious drug abuse? Same concept of conditioning the minds of the masses.

I think it's clear we are speaking from 2 different aspects and to different populations....

I am speaking to the majority who are having irresponsible sex...right...because the disease is transmitted primarily through unprotected intercourse between two people having sex for the first time right? One night stands right?

Not a long term monogamous boyfriend and girl or even girlfriend girlfriend or boyfriend boyfriend relationship , not dentist doing dental work, not touching door handles, as you stated ,sexually is the most COMMON way it is spread...why are we speaking to the minority when the majority is the problem??

And you are speaking to the super minority dentist who are doing dental work, the boy or girl who gets cheated on even though they remain faithful, or the dirty door knob....a very very small population...

And @kat I feel you but I really can't see the importance behind making the herp negatively stigmatized and maybe that's intended but people have to be more sexually responsible and health conscious...getting tested for everything regularly....health is wealth

This is what it boils down to. Usher should've told the chick he had that shit. The chick should've asked him to strap up. If he was Usher Raymond her co-worker, I'm pretty sure she would have asked him.